Moebius /Model king 65'Mercury Cyclone A/FX

[Rat Roaster]

The Mercury Junky gonna be doing the happy dance for this one..........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNRcUOE2NaA

 

[stavanzer]

Man, Steve, Great Build up. Have to have one of these, I do.

[Force]

 

6 hours ago, SteveG said:

Here's my built up test shot engine pics,  what do you think ?

 

Looks fairly right and better than most, it would have been nice with the Ford 427 SOHC ingraving tho'.

Edited July 20, 2018 by Force

[Deuces]

I got to get me one of these....

[gtx6970]

5 hours ago, Force said:

 

Looks fairly right and better than most, it would have been nice with the Ford 427 SOHC ingraving tho'.

Hopefully,, just maybe some 3d printer capable  entrepreneur makes these . 

[Pete L.]

I like the fact that the windshield wipers are separate parts and that the tach is pre drilled...

[Bainford]

12 hours ago, Force said:

 

Looks fairly right and better than most, it would have been nice with the Ford 427 SOHC ingraving tho'.

 

At first blush, I must disagree. The Mobious Cammer shown above looks to be fair at best. The shape of the cam covers is too squared off and 'hard edged'. This is yet another set of cam covers that omits the 'Ford SOHC' script (as mentioned). But perhaps the worse offense is the shape and possibly location of the spark plug indentations. Details look a bit soft or vague on the rest of the engine, but the cam covers are parts box swimmers, as would be the intake, etc.. Thankfully we have been blessed with numerous Cammers over the years that are much better then these, and a couple of sets that have been very well done. I'll be picking up one of these kits for sure, but if I build it as a Cammer, I'll definitely be using a different engine (or at least different cam covers).

It's a shame, really, but as said, there are other choices out there. I'm quite thankful just to have a decent '65 Comet.

Now, if Round2 would just backdate their '67 to a '66, I'll be a happy camper

Edited July 20, 2018 by Bainford

[dino246gt]

Those valve/cam covers can easily be sanded and filed into the correct shape. They're not staying chrome anyway, even if they are, Molotov pens will help.

 

[Force]

3 hours ago, Bainford said:

At first blush, I must disagree. The Mobious Cammer shown above looks to be fair at best. The shape of the cam covers is too squared off and 'hard edged'. This is yet another set of cam covers that omits the 'Ford SOHC' script (as mentioned). But perhaps the worse offense is the shape and possibly location of the spark plug indentations. Details look a bit soft or vague on the rest of the engine, but the cam covers are parts box swimmers, as would be the intake, etc.. Thankfully we have been blessed with numerous Cammers over the years that are much better then these, and a couple of sets that have been very well done. I'll be picking up one of these kits for sure, but if I build it as a Cammer, I'll definitely be using a different engine (or at least different cam covers).

It's a shame, really, but as said, there are other choices out there. I'm quite thankful just to have a decent '65 Comet.

Now, if Round2 would just backdate their '67 to a '66, I'll be a happy camper

Well, they are not perfect.

[David]

14 hours ago, Force said:

 

Looks fairly right and better than most, it would have been nice with the Ford 427 SOHC ingraving tho'.

 

On 11/15/2016 at 1:03 PM, Dave Metzner said:

The references we have for the 427 SOHC in 65 Comet AFX cars which come from 1965 era photography of real cars do NOT show the Ford Oval Logos on the Cam covers! Those oval Ford logos and SOHC letters are not on our kit parts.

 

 

 

[Casey]

5 hours ago, Bainford said:

The shape of the cam covers is too squared off and 'hard edged'. This is yet another set of cam covers that omits the 'Ford SOHC' script (as mentioned). But perhaps the worse offense is the shape and possibly location of the spark plug indentations. Details look a bit soft or vague on the rest of the engine, but the cam covers are parts box swimmers, as would be the intake, etc.

I agree, it appears the mold section where the cam cover cavities are never received any human attention to 'soften' the edges and corners. Fortunately, that can be corrected/fine tuned as the builder chooses, but out of the box, they look too 'machine made' to my eyes.

The below cam covers carry no logo nor script, but they have definitely been polished, so not exactly freshly cast:

Don Nicholson's '65 Comet:

 

Not sure if these are factory cam covers or not, but they are definitely more rounded on the corners and edges:

Edited July 20, 2018 by Casey

[fumi]

Some of the Cammers that went into Mercury cars don't have the Blue Oval cast into the valve covers.

TDR Innovations has an excellent Ford Cammer.

https://sites.google.com/site/tdrhtmllearn/home/engine-shop/ford-engine-selection

[Rob Hall]

Googling 'Arnie Beswick' Comet turned up an engine that looks like this, with tubes instead of dual carbs.  I guess that is how it is today (or a recreation?).

 

 

[mtrcitymuscle]

On 7/21/2018 at 8:17 AM, Rob Hall said:

Googling 'Arnie Beswick' Comet turned up an engine that looks like this, with tubes instead of dual carbs.  I guess that is how it is today (or a recreation?).

 

 

Yes, that is how the car remains today. A good friend owns it....along with a few others.

 

 

[ChrisBcritter]

Wow. Did Moebius have access to your friend's cars?

[afx]

Would it better if the parts were accurate - absolutely.   However I look at things like improving the valve covers as an opportunity to differentiate my build from a box stock build.

Edited July 23, 2018 by afx

[Rob Hall]

How accurate are the valve covers in the AMT '66 Galaxie?  I remember it having a 427 cammer option..

Edited July 23, 2018 by Rob Hall

[Sledsel]

Ok, the shock towers are removed, so what is the front suspension set up?   

[David]

1 hour ago, Rob Hall said:

How accurate are the valve covers in the AMT '66 Galaxie?  I remember it having a 427 cammer option..

IIRC AMT's 427 SOHC valve covers are quite a bit too narrow.

[afx]

2 hours ago, Sledsel said:

Ok, the shock towers are removed, so what is the front suspension set up?   

AFX Mustangs ran torsion leaf front suspension to make room for the SOHC 427, assume the Comets did as well.

Edited July 23, 2018 by afx

[fumi]

53 minutes ago, David said:

IIRC AMT's 427 SOHC valve covers are quite a bit too narrow.

There are different versions, and all have issues.

 

[RancheroSteve]

2 hours ago, Sledsel said:

Ok, the shock towers are removed, so what is the front suspension set up?   

I believe that car is running a straight axle. There were all kinds of different set-ups being tried at this time - narrowed shock towers, torsion springs, and straight axles - and most of the well known cars didn't stay the same for long. The Moebius Comet at least provides a good starting point.

[afx]

If the box art is faithful to what's in the box looks like the torsional leaf. But as Steve said multiple setups where used as the cars developed.

Edited July 23, 2018 by afx

[Mr mopar]

On ‎21‎/‎07‎/‎2018 at 5:17 AM, Rob Hall said:

Googling 'Arnie Beswick' Comet turned up an engine that looks like this, with tubes instead of dual carbs.  I guess that is how it is today (or a recreation?).

 

 

I like the tubes they look AWESOME !

Edited July 23, 2018 by Mr mopar

[Rob Hall]

12 minutes ago, Mr mopar said:

I like the tubes they look AWESOME !

Me too...the dual carbs w/ low intake looks almost sedate in comparison.   Maybe Moebius/MK will do this version eventually.