MPC Coronet kits

[GMP440]

It's amazing there are two topics on this message board in reference to the MPC 68 Coronet R/T kit.  This definetly shows the huge demand there is for this kit .  I too wish there was a way to get the ball rolling in order to get a reissue going.  We all need to contact Revell, Round 2 and Moebius and tell them that this subject matter needs to be done.  As mentioned in the past, this is a big hole that needs to be filled.  I see Moebius as the one that would venture to bring this out like they have been doing with the various Ford trucks that we see released.  Right now we are seeing the 68/69 Charger kits constantly reissued and recently the 70 Charger R/T.  It's a horse that's beat to death.  It's time for the model kit manufactures to move on and get something fresh out for once.  Even if it's just a limited run, say 5,000 to 8,000 kits.  this number of kits would definetly sell out.    Keep contacting the model kit companies.   There is always that light at the end of the tunnel where this could very well happen.  For all we know, maybe one of the kit manufacturers is already working on developement of this.  But, who knows.

 

[gtx6970]

On 10/14/2019 at 9:32 AM, Can-Con said:

A junkyard lot went on e-bay last night for 73 bucks USD. It had a '68 and '69 annual built-ups.

The '68 was missing the front bumper and both needed new hoods but both looked like the rest was good.

Heck of a deal for someone who likes rebuilding old kits like me. [no, I didn't get them. LOL]

WOW,

Wish I had seen them. I think I may have most of the parts to fix those, except maybe one hood

[High octane]

1 hour ago, GMP440 said:

It's amazing there are two topics on this message board in reference to the MPC 68 Coronet R/T kit.  This definetly shows the huge demand there is for this kit .  I too wish there was a way to get the ball rolling in order to get a reissue going.  We all need to contact Revell, Round 2 and Moebius and tell them that this subject matter needs to be done.  As mentioned in the past, this is a big hole that needs to be filled.  I see Moebius as the one that would venture to bring this out like they have been doing with the various Ford trucks that we see released.  Right now we are seeing the 68/69 Charger kits constantly reissued and recently the 70 Charger R/T.  It's a horse that's beat to death.  It's time for the model kit manufactures to move on and get something fresh out for once.  Even if it's just a limited run, say 5,000 to 8,000 kits.  this number of kits would definetly sell out.    Keep contacting the model kit companies.   There is always that light at the end of the tunnel where this could very well happen.  For all we know, maybe one of the kit manufacturers is already working on developement of this.  But, who knows.

 

No need to contact the model companies about this kit as it was offered by Modelhaus and nobody seemed to want it.

[Dave Darby]

8 hours ago, High octane said:

No need to contact the model companies about this kit as it was offered by Modelhaus and nobody seemed to want it.

Might have been a combination of the price point and of limited availability (ie: no retail outlets). 

[Snake45]

9 hours ago, High octane said:

No need to contact the model companies about this kit as it was offered by Modelhaus and nobody seemed to want it.

As Dave said, a high price point but it was in their catalog for many years so it must have been a steady seller. 

Edited October 17, 2019 by Snake45

[drodg]

38 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

As Dave said, a high price point but it was in their catalog for many years so it must have been a steady seller. 

That is true.  It is one thing to pay 70+ for a resin kit vs 30.00 for a mainstream plastic kit.   

[Casey]

11 hours ago, GMP440 said:

It's amazing there are two topics on this message board in reference to the MPC 68 Coronet R/T kit.  This definetly shows the huge demand there is for this kit . 

Or maybe it shows shows some people don't take the time to search the forum for an existing topic discussing the same kit they are about to start a new topic to discuss. 

There is no huge pent up demand for '68 and '69 Dodge Coronet R/Ts, sorry. There are plenty of originals still available on eBay, etc. if you want to build one.

[Tom Geiger]

11 hours ago, GMP440 said:

 It's time for the model kit manufactures to move on and get something fresh out for once.  Even if it's just a limited run, say 5,000 to 8,000 kits.  this number of kits would definetly sell out.   

and the problem is that you need to sell many more times that to pay for tooling.  Watch what Moebius does as a niche / boutique  manufacturer.  They get several versions of a vehicle to market over time to make it feasible. 

I wouldn't say never, as surprising things happen now a days as new manufacturers pop up out of nowhere!  Moebius would be a company to watch for this subject matter as it does fit their MO. 

I do find it interesting how people campaign for cars that models do exist if indeed you just have to have one.  As pointed out in this thread, old original kits are out there. Old built ups of original kits are out there.  Set up an eBay search agent and you'll get emails when they are listed.  And as said,  there have been resin copies available, and we get that old whine of how much they cost vs a new plastic kit.

Then we have the threads where we all whine about the cost of new plastic kits!   No doubt that the day a manufacturer does actually come out with this kit, there will be people whining that it should be sold at Ollies for $8!   ? 

[Snake45]

2 hours ago, Tom Geiger said:

I do find it interesting how people campaign for cars that models do exist if indeed you just have to have one.  As pointed out in this thread, old original kits are out there. Old built ups of original kits are out there.  Set up an eBay search agent and you'll get emails when they are listed.  And as said,  there have been resin copies available, and we get that old whine of how much they cost vs a new plastic kit.

You forgot one more good source for rare models: Diecasts! I can think of quite a few 1/24-1/25 diecasts that are quite nice, or at least acceptable if nothing else is available, and priced in the neighborhood of a new kit (@ $30, or less). In a couple cases I can think of, an available cheap diecast actually looks better than an available kit. 

[Junkman]

Why yes, I'd appreciate if it were sold for $8! But only if it's a new tool. For a repop that would be daylight robbery.

[StevenGuthmiller]

2 hours ago, Tom Geiger said:

Then we have the threads where we all whine about the cost of new plastic kits!   No doubt that the day a manufacturer does actually come out with this kit, there will be people whining that it should be sold at Ollies for $8!   ? 

That plus the fact that there will inevitably be a myriad of complaints about the inaccuracies of the kit.

 

 

 

Steve 

[Junkman]

I've been living long enough in this country that I don't spend over six Pounds for a kit that isn't a faithful replica of the real thing!

[Junkman]

However, to contribute something merely semi-useless to this thread, this is my '68 builder, which hitherto resists every method known to man and beast alike to remove the remaining paint.

 

I own it for the better part of three decades now, but these were never cheap and never will be.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Junkman

[High octane]

10 hours ago, drodg said:

That is true.  It is one thing to pay 70+ for a resin kit vs 30.00 for a mainstream plastic kit.   

Yes there is a big price difference between a resin kit and a plastic kit, however the "bottom line" is either you want it or you don't.

[gtx6970]

11 hours ago, Casey said:

There is no huge pent up demand for '68 and '69 Dodge Coronet R/Ts, sorry. There are plenty of originals still available on eBay, etc. if you want to build one.

I'll respectively disagree.

1968 Coronet builders consistantly sell for near or usually over $100 on a regular basis. Tells me me there is quite a command for this kit. 

 

Unbuilts are another matter. $500 is typically the minimum one can count on. A factory sealed one sold recently for over $1000. 

[Mark]

What an old kit sells for on eBay has no bearing on potential demand (or lack of same) for a new kit of the same subject.  It only means that a handful of people are willing to outspend one another for an old kit.

[Casey]

38 minutes ago, gtx6970 said:

I'll respectively disagree. 1968 Coronet builders consistantly sell for near or usually over $100 on a regular basis. Tells me me there is quite a command for this kit. 

Consider also that no model company (okay, pre-Hobbico bankruptcy Revell, basically) chose to create a new kits of the '68 or '69 Coronet , but they did chose to create kits of the '67 Dodge Coronet R/T, '67 Plymouth GTX and '67 Charger R/T (which share many parts) instead.

They already had the decent 1/24 Monogram '69 Coronet Super Bee kit (aka, "'69 440 Six Pack") to reissue at will, so it made no sense for them to create an all new 1/25 '69 kit. Is the '68 distinct enough to create an all new kit in 1/25 scale? Other than a Dick Landy version (which was more of a Performance Clinic type car, rather than an every weekend drag strip car), what would the second version be of a '68 Coronet R/T? I'm seriously asking, as I don't see why would Revell would chose to go down that path, and if not Revell, who else would do it?

Edited October 18, 2019 by Casey

[gtx6970]

5 minutes ago, Casey said:

Consider also that no model company (okay, pre-Hobbico bankruptcy Revell, basically) chose to create a new kits of the '68 or '69 Coronet , but they did chose to create kits of the '67 Dodge Coronet R/T, '67 Plymouth GTX and '67 Charger R/T (which share many parts) instead.

They already had the decent 1/24 Monogram '69 Coronet Super Bee kit (aka, "'69 440 Six Pack") to reissue at will, so it made no sense for them to create an all new 1/25 '69 kit. Is the '68 distinct enough to create an all new kit in 1/25 scale? Other than a Dick Landy version (which was more of a Performance Clinic type car, rather than an every weekend drag strip car), what would the second version be of a '68 Coronet R/T? I'm seriously asking, as I don't see why would Revell would chose to go down that path, and if not Revell, who else would do it?

 

 

 

Of that were true. Revell had the decent albeit 1.24th scale. 1971 Cuda in there lineup. Yet they tooled up an all new from scratch  1970 Cuda.

[Snake45]

9 minutes ago, gtx6970 said:

Of that were true. Revell had the decent albeit 1.24th scale. 1971 Cuda in there lineup. Yet they tooled up an all new from scratch  1970 Cuda.

And they did it three times and still never quite got it right! 

[Casey]

2 minutes ago, gtx6970 said:

Of that were true. Revell had the decent albeit 1.24th scale. 1971 Cuda in there lineup. Yet they tooled up an all new from scratch  1970 Cuda.

I'm sticking to discussing the '68 and '69 Coronet R/Ts here.

Why didn't Revell produce kits of them if there is so much demand? If not Revell, who else would, and why haven't they?

Ertl even went so far as to dig out the MPC '70 Coronet and pair it with the modern AMT Mopar B-body underpinnings. Why wouldn't they get more bang for their buck with both '68 and '69 Coronet kits instead? There were many all new kits from AMT during the Ertl era, but no '68 nor '69 Coronet R/Ts...yes, my opinion only, but the real cars aren't that high on the Mopar Popularity Scale, and I don't feel they'd be great sellers in 1/25 scale, either.

[StevenGuthmiller]

I have to agree with everyone who is of the opinion that the '68/'69 Coronet would likely not be a viable option for a new tool.

In today's market, a subject needs to be able to be marketed in several different incarnations to justify the cost.

 

The only real hope in my opinion, is if enough of the original MPC tools exist to be able to cobble together a kit using the guts from the AMT GTX/Road Runner kits.

I highly doubt that Moebius will take this one on, and I really don't see Revell doing it, so that would leave Round 2.

 

I have a sneaking suspicion that the tooling for the original MPC kits no longer exists, so there's little chance that Round 2 will be taking that leap either.

 

 

 

Steve

[Junkman]

7 hours ago, gtx6970 said:

I'll respectively disagree.

1968 Coronet builders consistantly sell for near or usually over $100 on a regular basis. Tells me me there is quite a command for this kit. 

You don't say! I own a kit that costs more than eight Dollars?

[gtx6970]

1 hour ago, Junkman said:

You don't say! I own a kit that costs more than eight Dollars?

I'll double , no triple your investment

 

[Junkman]

Once I keeled over, they'll all be three quid a toss, you'll see.

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 minute ago, Junkman said:

Once I keeled over, they'll all be three quid a toss, you'll see.

If I knew what a quid was, I'd be impressed........or not? 

 

 

 

 

Steve