1929 Ford Pickup 80's Contemporary Street Rod - A Tim Boyd Tribute!

[horsepower]

On 5/5/2021 at 4:48 AM, horsepower said:

I was thinking it looks like an early test for using a spray chrome technique. Too bad it didn't catch on, maybe it was a combination of cost and time that killed it. But it would be interesting to hear the story behind it, how about it any of the old Revell execs hanging around the thread?

Don't know what I was thinking, it would have to have been some older employees AMT/ERTL to know what the history of those would have been.

[Speedpro]

Have a small update on the engine for @Kit Karson's truck. i must have gone through 100 kits trying to come up with something to give this engine some life. Finding a intake manifold for a blower or some kind of injection that will fit the engine was unsuccessful in my stash. Everything was just too out of scale (too big). Just couldn't believe I don't have anything, or though I thought! This is what I came upon. It's different. Intake that fits and has a pair of Predator carburetors. Period correct? What I really like is the air box that mounts on top of the carbs. Any one know what kit this setup came from? I'v got something in mind to bring the air box to a different level. For now the parts are getting the chrome stripped. @Kit Karson sent some parts to help out my vision................. 

 

I think I'm on the right track. Will maybe do something to the valve covers to give some character as they are just too plain looking.

Thats it for now.

Speedpro

Edited August 9, 2022 by Speedpro

[Can-Con]

That setup came in the AMT early '90s Ford pickups. There's a very nice set of "Holley" valve covers in the kits to go with them like in the pic below.

 

 

Edited August 9, 2022 by Can-Con

[Kit Karson]

On 8/8/2022 at 9:15 PM, Speedpro said:

Have a small update on the engine for @Kit Karson's truck. i must have gone through 100 kits trying to come up with something to give this engine some life. Finding a intake manifold for a blower or some kind of injection that will fit the engine was unsuccessful in my stash. Everything was just too out of scale (too big). Just couldn't believe I don't have anything, or though I thought! This is what I came upon. It's different. Intake that fits and has a pair of Predator carburetors. Period correct? What I really like is the air box that mounts on top of the carbs. Any one know what kit this setup came from? I'v got something in mind to bring the air box to a different level. For now the parts are getting the chrome stripped. @Kit Karson sent some parts to help out my vision................. 

 

I think I'm on the right track. Will maybe do something to the valve covers to give some character as they are just too plain looking.

Thats it for now.

Speedpro

Awesome, Brother!

[Speedpro]

On 8/9/2022 at 6:28 AM, Can-Con said:

That setup came in the AMT early '90s Ford pickups. There's a very nice set of "Holley" valve covers in the kit

Steve, The parts came out of the AMT '92 ford flareside pickup kit. And yes , I did see those valve covers in there but chose to use the ones already on the engine as it came to me from @Kit Karson and making them look more custom.

 

I have an idea for the air box that i think will make it somewhat unique and add some detail to the engine. What I'm planning to do is add 8 bellmouth volocity stacks to the air box, 4 down each side. KK sent me some parts to make this happen and I think they will work perfect. The first thing I had to do was to file them to have 2 flats on the center ones and 1 flat for thr end ones. Not too tough to do.

To make a template for the holes to be drilled for the stacks in the box I mounted 4 of them between two pieces of tape. Then a small hammer was used to lightly tap on the eyelet's on a solid surface to punch the holes on the other side. This worked perfectly. 

 

 

And the result is a template that was put on the box and the holes drilled for the stack's starting with a .80 bit and working my way up to a size that the stack would almost fit and then filed too fit from there. Did the same thing on the other side. I like the results and think it was worth the effort. 

 

I think that the front of the box will have to be filled in alittle to hide the end of the eyelet's. And the intake manifold has to be trimmed some to fit the engine. I can't do that till the heads are painted and on the block. More to come..................

 

Speedpro

 

 

Missed a couple pics.......

Edited August 11, 2022 by Speedpro

[Kit Karson]

Absolutely Awesome work, Brother!  Gotta love it when a plan comes together!! -KK

ps as I remember, didn't we rescue a BBC boat engine that had a unit like the pipe-organ air box you built on it?

[Speedpro]

@Kit Karson, You mean this one. It was made by larsen engineering in the early '80's. This is my inspiration for the cover on the engine for your truck.

Good Times, Brother

 

 

Edited August 11, 2022 by Speedpro
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[tim boyd]

On 8/10/2022 at 8:36 PM, Speedpro said:

Steve, The parts came out of the AMT '92 ford flareside pickup kit. And yes , I did see those valve covers in there but chose to use the ones already on the engine as it came to me from @Kit Karson and making them look more custom.

 

I have an idea for the air box that i think will make it somewhat unique and add some detail to the engine. What I'm planning to do is add 8 bellmouth volocity stacks to the air box, 4 down each side. KK sent me some parts to make this happen and I think they will work perfect. The first thing I had to do was to file them to have 2 flats on the center ones and 1 flat for thr end ones. Not too tough to do.

To make a template for the holes to be drilled for the stacks in the box I mounted 4 of them between two pieces of tape. Then a small hammer was used to lightly tap on the eyelet's on a solid surface to punch the holes on the other side. This worked perfectly. 

 

 

And the result is a template that was put on the box and the holes drilled for the stack's starting with a .80 bit and working my way up to a size that the stack would almost fit and then filed too fit from there. Did the same thing on the other side. I like the results and think it was worth the effort. 

 

I think that the front of the box will have to be filled in alittle to hide the end of the eyelet's. And the intake manifold has to be trimmed some to fit the engine. I can't do that till the heads are painted and on the block. More to come..................

 

Speedpro

 

 

Missed a couple pics.......

Paul....great inspiration and execution!   Way to go....TIM 

[Dennis Lacy]

@Speedpro

I had one of those Ford F-150 kits back in the mid 90’s. Had a green truck on the box top with all the custom body parts and billet wheels. I still remember the Predator carb and air filter set up from it. I held on to that and the Holley valve covers for years but the parts went MIA along the way. ? Would love to have another set but no way I’m paying current asking prices for those pick up kits! ? 

Anyways, excellent choice! I tried to think of an induction set up to suggest for you guys and completely forgot about this. It’s actually kind of a PITA coming up with small block Ford multi-carb set ups. Last Christmas I got one of the MPC now AMT ‘88 Mustang GT’s and I was stoked to find an optional dual 4 barrel induction. 

[Speedpro]

14 hours ago, tim boyd said:

Paul....great inspiration and execution!   Way to go....TIM 

Thanks Tim

 

12 hours ago, Dennis Lacy said:

Anyways, excellent choice! I tried to think of an induction set up to suggest for you guys and completely forgot about this. It’s actually kind of a PITA coming up with small block Ford multi-carb set ups. Last Christmas I got one of the MPC now AMT ‘88 Mustang GT’s and I was stoked to find an optional dual 4 barrel induction.

@Dennis Lacy

I was at my wits end trying to find about anything for the induction for this engine. I was starting to look for a alternative engine to build when I came across this. I just got lucky as I never thought to look at this kit.

[Speedpro]

The engine parts are in primer. Found a parts box distributor and drilled it for wires. Added a little something to the valve covers. The pulley's and carb's will get alclad polished aluminum. If you look at the box you can see that the front was filled in a bit to help hide the ends of the stacks. It was easier than trying to cut the stacks down.

 

 

On to paint........................

Speedpro

Edited August 12, 2022 by Speedpro
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[bill-e-boy]

Paul - what a champion - you made that ugly air cleaner cover pop with the addition of the trumpets

 

[Kit Karson]

On 8/11/2022 at 2:46 PM, Speedpro said:

@Kit Karson, You mean this one. It was made by larsen engineering in the early '80's. This is my inspiration for the cover on the engine for your truck.

Good Times, Brother

 

 

 

That's it!  I was not surprised to see you still had it when I came up last fall...

ps Shoot me a picture of the A PU pin-up on your wall, Brother!!! I'll build the cab & provide the wheels & tires!! -KK

[Speedpro]

14 hours ago, bill-e-boy said:

Paul - what a champion - you made that ugly air cleaner cover pop with the addition of the trumpets

 

Thanks Bill, I appreciate your comment. The trumpets definitely added some life to cover. Will see what the paint does for it. I think it's going to look good on the engine.

Paul

 

 

[Speedpro]

Small update, Shot the paint on the engine parts. Also worked on the radiator. The front and back of the rad is flat black. The tanks are alclad polished aluminum. Fan was covered with BMF. 

 

I'm not going to clear the parts till they are back on the engine block and then clear the whole thing.

More to come..............

Speedpro

 

[Speedpro]

Been working on the engine and its seems like I go two steps forward and three steps back. The engine paint all went well. Even did some BMF work on some of the parts. I was able to finally get the intake manifold trimmed and fit. It was then covered in alclad polished aluminum as were the carbs.

 

This is where things started to go backwards. When fitting the intake manifold, I had to move the cylinder heads apart more to compensate for the width of the manifold. This created a bit of a interference with the valve covers and the firewall. And the engine sits to far back in the chassis that the air box is never going to fit because it hits the firewall also. Never did a mock up with the engine at any time up to this point. Didn't think it would have turned into this big of a problem though. After a day or two figuring out how to fix this mess, this is what I did.

First thing was removing the valve covers and stripping them again. They were mocked on the engine and put in the frame, with the fenders and cab in place. At this point I got a very good idea what to do to get the valve covers to work.

 

 

Moving the engine forward wasn't too bad, but at the same time I was cutting on a finished frame and was not happy about that at all. But it is what it is and I made it work. Had to do some trimming on the frame mounts removing about half of them on each side. Also making sure the headers will still fit. A new hole was drilled in the trans to mount to the crossmember. A small plate will be made to fix the difference there to cover the old hole. When the engine is installed, It has somewhat of a pressure fit sitting in the frame.  Not just flopping around. Some touch up paint will need to be done now also. While I was at it I made a new drive shaft as the original one was not going to work being too short. 

 

 

 

The valve covers and driveshaft are in primer. The frame needs to get masked off so the engine mounts can get painted. This all might work together now.

 

Speedpro 

[foghorn62]

I’m just sitting here shaking my head.  If this had been a solo build, it would have been sent under glass long ago, but since the creative genius of two top shelf builders on opposite sides of the country have joined forces, the end result will undoubtedly be one for the ages!

TS

[tim boyd]

Paul's build thread here perfectly illustrates how great models are built and finally completed.   

A young man who worked for me when I was the Midwest Region Assistant Manager for Lincoln Mercury said it best (and I quoted him hundreds of times in my career later on):  Persistence wears down resistance!    And it is just as valid as a model building philosophy as it is a management and sales strategy!  

Keep at it, Paul (though I very much doubt you need any encouragement from this end!) 

Very excellent work around and had you not shared it here, I venture not a single person would have ever known when looking at the completed model! 

Cheers....TIM 

 

 

[Bugatti Fan]

Nice to hear two top notch modeller's mutual admiration and informative discussion on here..

I will have to remember the 'Persistence wears down resistance bit of philosophy that Tim placed in his post. Good to remember when things go pear shaped on a model build, and it happens to all of us whether experienced or relatively new to modelling whatever we make.

My son bought me a wood kit of Titanic's lifeboat that I am currently building. Certainly taxing my modelling skills working in a different medium altogether. Certainly testing my persistence doing a clinker built boat and learning to shape and bend wood planking. Enjoying the challenge of being well out of my comfort zone though with this one!

Edited October 25, 2022 by Bugatti Fan

[Bugatti Fan]

Looked back at the first posts on this thread but could not find what the donor kit was.I

I ask this as I am looking for a Model A lot with the upright closed cab. The intention being to make a small commercial oil tanker truck based on a restored one here in England.

[bill-e-boy]

"Looked back at the first posts on this thread but could not find what the donor kit was"

Revell 28/29 Pickup 2in1

Can be built closed cab or roadster pickup

It has been re-issued a few times over the years with the most recent being a Rat Rod version

 

[Kit Karson]

On 8/31/2022 at 3:44 AM, Bugatti Fan said:

Looked back at the first posts on this thread but could not find what the donor kit was.I

I ask this as I am looking for a Model A lot with the upright closed cab. The intention being to make a small commercial oil tanker truck based on a restored one here in England.

 

3 hours ago, bill-e-boy said:

"Looked back at the first posts on this thread but could not find what the donor kit was"

Revell 28/29 Pickup 2in1

Can be built closed cab or roadster pickup

It has been re-issued a few times over the years with the most recent being a Rat Rod version

 

Thanks, Bill!

Noel, 

These are just a couple of versions of the '29 Closed Cab kits:

"REVELL FORD MODEL A CUSTOM PICKUP HOT ROD" 

"Revell Ford Model A Street Demon" 

Here are a couple later releases:

Here's one from a while back:

'29 PU V-12 Midnight Auto Salvage from K&R Kustoms+Rods Hollywood Shop

[Bugatti Fan]

Kit and Bill.   Thanks for coming back about the donor kit with that closed cab.

Edited September 1, 2022 by Bugatti Fan

[Kit Karson]

On 8/31/2022 at 3:44 AM, Bugatti Fan said:

Looked back at the first posts on this thread but could not find what the donor kit was.I

I ask this as I am looking for a Model A lot with the upright closed cab. The intention being to make a small commercial oil tanker truck based on a restored one here in England.

 

23 hours ago, Bugatti Fan said:

Kit and Bill.   Thanks for coming back about the donor kit with that closed cab.

If you are interested... I have several Revell '29 Closed Cab/RPU kits that I would part with!  If so, PM me & I'll UPS/Fed Ex them on me! -KK

[Dennis Lacy]

On 4/1/2022 at 6:59 AM, alan barton said:

Tadaaaaah!

Alan, I went through this whole thread for fun today and I don’t know how I missed it but I’m just today seeing your finished truck! ?‍♂️
 

I really like the finished result! Every bit of it looks absolutely period perfect. I love that you dared to be different with extended cab and hopped up V6. With the extra cab you had the advantage of room to use those Buttera seats as-is where I had to modify them to straighten up the seat backs so they would fit. I also like how you finished the back end with the tailgate, graphics and billet taillights. 
 

Did you do an Under Glass post? Got a link to it?