Next up: '66 Riviera - the last Nailhead

[customline]

10 minutes ago, bisc63 said:

...Could vary by year, also? Are they the same?

I dunno, Rusty.  My gut says the brake lines should be away from the heat but brake fluid is formulated to perform in a wide range of extreme conditions. Then there is the sequence of assembly (Buick's, not mine).  Having done body-off-frame work and run brake lines on the frame (a '39 Plymouth, not a "Y frame" Buick) while it was easily done....I dunno ?.

Really think the interior color is sexy? Picture it with all the chrome ?. Tomorrow.

[bisc63]

I retracted the post you quoted, look back and check out the link I replaced it with, it's got lots of good info. I just had to dig deeper! I think the years must make a difference on some points,as the chassis shots I posted were definitely from a 64 or 65.

According to the discussion over on the Buick forum, it looks like the fuel line goes iINSIDE the frame most of the way, but there's good description of where it comes out, transitions to flexible rubber line, etc..

Will be watching!

[customline]

4 hours ago, bisc63 said:

I retracted the post you quoted, look back and check out the link I replaced it with, it's got lots of good info. I just had to dig deeper! I think the years must make a difference on some points,as the chassis shots I posted were definitely from a 64 or 65.

According to the discussion over on the Buick forum, it looks like the fuel line goes iINSIDE the frame most of the way, but there's good description of where it comes out, transitions to flexible rubber line, etc..

Will be watching!

Thanks, Rusty, I really appreciate your interest. I'm glad the brake line isn't glued ?. Sorry it kept you up last night ?.

[customline]

16 hours ago, bisc63 said:

OK, found some info to settle this! Check this out: https://www.v8buick.com/index.php?threads/1966-riviera-fuel-line-routing.280366/

OK, I checked out the Buick forum. ? This is making my head hurt. A/C, no A/C, California emissions,  mid-year changes.....Ahhhhhgh!!!!!....I have a 1967 Motor manual in the garage that I will dig out today and if I can find anything in it I'll go with that. I need a nap ?

Addendum: couldn't find 1967 Motor repair manual.  Did not get nap. More research needed. Moving on to exterior paint before time runs out. Detailing interior appears to be a bit too treacherous for foil. I won't risk any of my good foil for that. 

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[bisc63]

11 hours ago, customline said:

I need a nap 

Having fun is exhausting these days.

[customline]

11 minutes ago, bisc63 said:

Having fun is exhausting these days

Yes it is, Rusty, it absolutely is. Maybe I should cut back on the brownies ? 

[Ian McLaren]

Liking the detailing.

[customline]

Weekend update:  got interior detailed and glued up.  I figured the door panels were too irregular and detailed for me to use foil for those big chrome things (I'm sure others have been successful) so I used Molotow and 18/0 and 3/0 brushes along with black chrome foil and flat black paint. The dash is detailed with flat black rattle can, foil, Molotow chrome and Best Model Parts photo reduced guages. I tried to shave off some of the instrument detail for a flat surface to mount the "guages" to but had to settle a bit.  A parking brake release was added. The front seat was detailed with foil and .022 solder. Rear seat got black chrome foil and Molotow chrome applied with brush.

This interior was difficult, for me, to detail cleanly.  There is much high relief, complicated detail molded in to begin with and the door panels would have been awesome with chrome foil detailing but for my limited skill with that stuff. I opted to use foil where I could be somewhat successful in doing so and Molotow for the rest. The closeups are quite revealing of the difficulty level for me but I'm happy with the overall result, the "big picture". Heck, once it's all together you can't see much anyway. Thanks for watching i

[Bullybeef]

21 minutes ago, customline said:

Weekend update:  got interior detailed and glued up.  I figured the door panels were too irregular and detailed for me to use foil for those big chrome things (I'm sure others have been successful) so I used Molotow and 18/0 and 3/0 brushes along with black chrome foil and flat black paint. The dash is detailed with flat black rattle can, foil, Molotow chrome and Best Model Parts photo reduced guages. I tried to shave off some of the instrument detail for a flat surface to mount the "guages" to but had to settle a bit.  A parking brake release was added. The front seat was detailed with foil and .022 solder. Rear seat got black chrome foil and Molotow chrome applied with brush.

This interior was difficult, for me, to detail cleanly.  There is much high relief, complicated detail molded in to begin with and the door panels would have been awesome with chrome foil detailing but for my limited skill with that stuff. I opted to use foil where I could be somewhat successful in doing so and Molotow for the rest. The closeups are quite revealing of the difficulty level for me but I'm happy with the overall result, the "big picture". Heck, once it's all together you can't see much anyway. Thanks for watching i

Jim, that sir is some class A workmanship 

[customline]

1 hour ago, Bullybeef said:

Jim, that sir is some class A workmanship 

Thanks, Bil.

I can't understand why, sometimes,  the photos I post don't end up in the order I had them in when I hit the enter button. Maybe it's this Android thing that I use. I may try a Fire I have. Driving me crazy ?

[Mattilacken]

Beautiful work! Interior looks awesome! 

[customline]

 

2 hours ago, Mattilacken said:

Beautiful work! Interior looks awesome! 

Thanks, Anton.  Here's more shots from yesterday. 

[bisc63]

Lookin' good. That interior just speaks to me; it's gorgeous! I was liking the color early on, but seeing it all together so clean, it's a shame this ain't a convertible!

[customline]

7 hours ago, bisc63 said:

Lookin' good. That interior just speaks to me; it's gorgeous! I was liking the color early on, but seeing it all together so clean, it's a shame this ain't a convertible!

Thanks, Rusty. It's a bit too shiny but think "Armor-all" ?.   All that work on the dash and you can't see it!  I need to decide how to handle the firewall. My gut says glue it to the body. ? I don't trust the instructions.

[Ian McLaren]

I love the interior, and I don't think the shine is a issue. Once fully assembled it will help to bring out the textures inside the body.

[espo]

I agree with everyone else on the interior and especially the gauges. Nice detailing on the chassis. 

[customline]

3 hours ago, Ian McLaren said:

I love the interior, and I don't think the shine is a issue. Once fully assembled it will help to bring out the textures inside the body.

 

40 minutes ago, espo said:

I agree with everyone else on the interior and especially the gauges. Nice detailing on the chassis. 

Thanks, Ian and Dave. I like the color a lot for an interior and it's all done with rattle cans in one session. First the flat black which dries fast. Then Krylon gloss Burgundy, no more than two light coats because the black needs to show through. After the burgundy is dry, I hit it with satin clear. Done and done. Results may vary ?.  And I think you're right, Ian, that the shine will help to bring out the pleated "upholstery" and the "grain" ; I'm glad you pointed that out. Out in the sun, that color is quite 'purple-ish" but indoors it's good. Below is the first time I did this and it was because somebody on a forum pointed out that what's underneath affects the final color. How right they were. This isn't anything new but it was for me ?. As far as the guages, Dave, I'm a fan of Michael Hanson's work (SEE ABOVE).  I buy a small quantity at a time to get the discount and they make quite an impact on some builds where they can be easily seen.   I also like that you can get SW in black or white face,  and Sun gages too. Great stuff. 

[customline]

Mini-update:

Joined frame assembly to floor assembly ? and installed exhaust systems. Added a little paint detailing to firewall and now I have to decide on the attachment of the firewall. I have thrown the question out there twice now and, as yet, no one has weighed in. I anticipate a fit problem if I go with the AMT instructions. The firewall is shown being glued to the interior assembly but it's not a precise fit - no locators. The fit of the firewall to the body at the inner fenders IS  a nice tight fit as if it had been designed that way. I'm inclined to go with that but can't help wondering if I'm not seeing something that I need to before I run up against it during the final fit-up. You all know how that goes. Whomever has built this kit please speak now ? or forever hold your peace. ?

The instructions may take into account the placement of the steering box in the sequence of assembly; I can deal with that.

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[Can-Con]

I can't honestly say for sure but I think I glued the firewall to the body when I built mine. 

One thing you might want to consider if this is to be a factory stock build, and it may be too late anyway,  is wide white walls were last offered from the factory on cars back in '62 so the tires as is would not be correct for the time period. 

The white inserts on those tired was meant to be painted black and the raised ridges scraped off to produce a couple nice sharp twin white stripes. 

But, hey, it's whatever the builder likes, right.

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[customline]

3 hours ago, Can-Con said:

I can't honestly say for sure but I think I glued the firewall to the body when I built mine. 

One thing you might want to consider if this is to be a factory stock build, and it may be too late anyway,  is wide white walls were last offered from the factory on cars back in '62 so the tires as is would not be correct for the time period. 

The white inserts on those tired was meant to be painted black and the raised ridges scraped off to produce a couple nice sharp twin white stripes. 

But, hey, it's whatever the builder likes, right.

Wow, Steve, that's a revelation! Thank you!  I wonder if that's in the instructions.  Maybe I should look ?  Really, that's fascinating.  I thought those white-walls were kinda strange; now it makes sense! ?

After assembling the the interior I set the firewall in place in the body and installed the interior/frame assy. into the body and it seemed OK but the glass was not installed. I don't see a problem. Firewall to body looks like the way. Thanks again.

[customline]

Gotta give credit where it's due so my thanks to Can-Con for setting me on the right path. I looked at the instruction sheet and WHATTAYAKNOW?!?!?  Well, you know what they say; when all else fails....no....instructions are just someone else's.....no, no....anyway....I musta missed it ?

 

[bisc63]

The twin stripes look good!

[customline]

1 hour ago, bisc63 said:

The twin stripes look good!

Yeah, who knew? Funny how things like that slip from memory

[customline]

I got some paint on it yesterday but Wednesday ( less humidity) would have been the best day for outdoor painting (my only option).  There was an occasional gusty breeze that made it difficult and the finish suffered. This paint will need wet-sanding and re-coating.  Luckily, I have plenty of Boyd's Dusty Rose enamel. I chose this color over my original idea for white pearl (Tamiya rattle can) because I thought it might be a bit more dramatic and might go well with the burgundy interior. Ya'll can be the judge of that. I present these pictures just to demonstrate the color of this amazing paint. I'm not sure the combination is great but the Dusty Rose is a really cool color for this subject, in my humble opinion ?.

[NOBLNG]

Wow! Fantastic amount of detailing you are doing. And that interior looks fabulous!?