Well it’s finally announced.?

[tbill]

51 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

, what magic flock of winged rainbow-striped unicorns is going to swoop down from Lala Land and build the required upgrades in the near future?

From what I understand, we have been in talks with Lala land for quite sometime , final details are almost worked out , and soon the flock will be working on the issue……..?

[Ace-Garageguy]

15 minutes ago, tbill said:

From what I understand, we have been in talks with Lala land for quite sometime , final details are almost worked out , and soon the flock will be working on the issue……..?

Good to know. The future is secure at last.  

[StevenGuthmiller]

43 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Good to know. The future is secure at last.  

Yeah, I feel a lot better now. 
 

 

Steve

[1972coronet]

3 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

TRYING TO FORCE EVERYONE TO COMPLY WITH A TOTAL PHASE-OUT OF ICE VEHICLES IS IDIOCY.

WE ARE NOT READY.

Both California and Texas, just citing two states out of 50, are currently incapable of keeping up with EXISTING DEMAND on the grid in peak circumstances.

C.A.R.B. (California Air Resources Board), which is an entity consisting of appointed staff, voted to ban all new sales (versus sales-of-new?) of I.C.E.-powered vehicles by 2035 (emphasis mine).

"Not ready", is the understatement of the decade.

Another reason to move from this state (no place is perfect -- sensibility is all I'm asking for).

Once a few certain high-profile figures consisting of former second-in-command personnel and de facto politicians relinquish their personal jets, then maybe CARB et al. decisions would be viewed with less derision . 

[espo]

As an expat I feal your pain and frustration with the powers which you didn't even get to elect. 

[Oldcarfan27]

23 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Good to know. The future is secure at last.  

And it's going to benefit us all! After all it's for our own good!

[StevenGuthmiller]

36 minutes ago, Oldcarfan27 said:

And it's going to benefit us all! After all it's for our own good!

Isn't it nice to have people to make all of our decisions for us in life?

Especially when it's a bunch of bone headed hacks with political science degrees who have never had a real job in their entire lives?

It makes me feel so protected.

 

 

 

Steve

[Oldcarfan27]

[keyser]

[Tabbysdaddy]

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, Oldcarfan27 said:

?

 

 

Steve

[von Zipper]

This just in :

Record breaking heat wave hits California , Residents are urged not to charge their Electric Vehicles due to strain on the power grid

[Oldcarfan27]

13 minutes ago, von Zipper said:

This just in :

Record breaking heat wave hits California , Residents are urged not to charge their Electric Vehicles due to strain on the power grid

Classic!

Drive or sweat, take your choice. You can't have both.

[stitchdup]

The problem where i live isn't green energy, we generate way more electricity than we can use locally from renewables but we dont have the capacity to export it where its needed. We have the worlds main marine power test site and the test site for new windmills on the islands because of extreme weather conditions, and the eu's renewables school is still on the islands even though we left the eu, so i guess its a pretty importan site. Students travel from all over the world to study at emec. Pretty soon there will be a load more electricity geneated locally so hydrogen production is being considered for some of the uninhabitated islands as we have planty of them that have no archeological value and are little more than rock with a few sheep on. The local bus company trialled some electric buses and the only ttime they made the manufacturers stated range they were empty. when they had more than half capacity the range dropped by 25% and 40% if it was full. And the drop couldn't really be acounted for due to passenger load not being constant. Sometimes it would do 5 runs, the next it would be 3 and it just didn't work. Theres a local ferry being run on hydrogen for the last 5 years and its maintenance costs are lower now, but that may be because the guys from emec keep a good watch on it due to there being lots of testing. That boat still has the ability to run on diesel but the next boats are probably going to be hydrogen fueled in some form, be that cells or fuel. The plans for the boat look pretty sleek and slightly star trekish in look. In some ways it like they took a boats of the future from the 1960s and went thats the look we want, lol.

[1972coronet]

1 hour ago, von Zipper said:

This just in :

Record breaking heat wave hits California , Residents are urged not to charge their Electric Vehicles due to strain on the power grid

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, 1972coronet said:

I rest my case.

 

 

 

Steve

[Ace-Garageguy]

5 hours ago, von Zipper said:

This just in :

Record breaking heat wave hits California , Residents are urged not to charge their Electric Vehicles due to strain on the power grid

...as they pass a law requiring the phase-out of non-electric vehicles.

Ya know...you couldn't write this stuff as fiction. Nobody'd believe "leadership" could be this abysmally out of touch with reality.

It's like 5-year-olds are running things.

And since the state in question shut down its second-to-last nuclear reactor, the "renewables" haven't been able to take up the slack...so the state's buying-in power generated in Montana...FROM BURNING COAL. Now...ummm...how exactly does that reduce emissions?

Pretty funny too is that they were bragging just a few days back that renewables took the "full load of the grid" for the first time. One clown said it made him all tingly.

Yeah, for FOUR SECONDS during a low demand period. EDIT: And rumor has it they were actually burning natural gas during the 4 seconds, somehow trying to pass that off as "renewable" (this is all subject to verification when I have time).

 

 

Edited September 2, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy
CLARITY

[keyser]

Ha! Here we don’t import anything, as it would put TX under federal regs. So what if a few hundred people freeze to death because grid fails? Pesky inspectors trying to tell us our plants are poorly maintained? They wouldn’t even let a couple companies build new power plants here. Freedom! 
 

[Oldcarfan27]

8 hours ago, stitchdup said:

Pretty soon there will be a load more electricity geneated locally so hydrogen production is being considered...

The local bus company trialled some electric buses and the only ttime they made the manufacturers stated range they were empty. when they had more than half capacity the range dropped by 25% and 40% if it was full....it just didn't work.

Theres a local ferry being run on hydrogen for the last 5 years and its maintenance costs are lower now, but that may be because the guys from emec keep a good watch on it due to there being lots of testing. That boat still has the ability to run on diesel but the next boats are probably going to be hydrogen fueled in some form, be that cells or fuel. 

Now that's true innovation and problem solving! Sounds like they're using realtime data statistics and adjusting for what will work consistently in reality, not some fairytale pipedream that must be correct because certain elite members of society deem it to be so. It doesn't even sound like electric buses can deliver as promised, so they're leaning towards hydrogen as a clean burning alternative. I'm all for research that gives a good honest answer and seeks to find a legitimate solution. What's currently being promoted as salvation is not that at all, not even in a nutshell. 

[DingoDog]

Am I the only person who has heard that Europe is going back to fossil fueled vehicles becausethey realize that EV are not environmentally friendly during manufacturing nor are they after because the power comes from fossil fueled powered plants. ?

[stitchdup]

1 hour ago, DingoDog said:

Am I the only person who has heard that Europe is going back to fossil fueled vehicles becausethey realize that EV are not environmentally friendly during manufacturing nor are they after because the power comes from fossil fueled powered plants. ?

yes, fossil fueled vehicles are in their death knell in europe

[Russell C]

9 hours ago, stitchdup said:

 ...fossil fueled vehicles are in their death knell in europe

Does anyone know what the ratio of gas cars in Europe on the road vs EVs is?

[stitchdup]

4 hours ago, Russell C said:

Does anyone know what the ratio of gas cars in Europe on the road vs EVs is?

I'm guessing its about 20-25% ev at the moment

[Russell C]

19 hours ago, stitchdup said:

I'm guessing its about 20-25% ev at the moment

My search skills might be letting me down when it comes to dredging up the most current figures, and finding other corroborating statistics would help nail the figures down better. For example, this one page puts the total for fully electrics right around 3 million (many news items show big jumps of brand-new EV sales), while this other page puts the total vehicles altogether for all of Europe - lagging behind if I read that right - at just under 405 million for the year 2020. Unless my math skills are also letting me down big time, that puts the percentage of EVs in Europe at not yet reaching .75% of total vehicles. In that second web page above, their full PDF report has a page 13 to it that breaks out vehicles by fuel type (still lagging back to 2020), and unless I'm misreading it, their figure for all-electric cars for the European Union area is .5%, while gas cars were at 51.7% and diesels, 42.8%.

Open to corrections and more firmly calculated figures, of course.

[stitchdup]

4 hours ago, Russell C said:

My search skills might be letting me down when it comes to dredging up the most current figures, and finding other corroborating statistics would help nail the figures down better. For example, this one page puts the total for fully electrics right around 3 million (many news items show big jumps of brand-new EV sales), while this other page puts the total vehicles altogether for all of Europe - lagging behind if I read that right - at just under 405 million for the year 2020. Unless my math skills are also letting me down big time, that puts the percentage of EVs in Europe at not yet reaching .75% of total vehicles. In that second web page above, their full PDF report has a page 13 to it that breaks out vehicles by fuel type (still lagging back to 2020), and unless I'm misreading it, their figure for all-electric cars for the European Union area is .5%, while gas cars were at 51.7% and diesels, 42.8%.

Open to corrections and more firmly calculated figures, of course.

I was just guessing based on what i see on the roads locally