mrm Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 OK... Last new project, I promise! I know, I know... way too many going on. But that's what happens after spending three days at a huge Hot Rod show and then leaving me home for a couple of weeks with nothing to do and the weather is just begging me to paint stuff. LOL This one is going to be a certain Goodguys Hot Rod of the Year '32 Sedan from a couple of years back inspired model. As it has been the case lately, I'm starting with the motor. In this case, so far it is comprised of parts from five different kits. At least so far. The belt may come from a sixth. The main block and transmission are the SBC from the Revell Rat Roaster. The valve covers were chosen because the Chevrolet script on them and came from some kit in my garage. The intake came from another and the ram horn exhaust from a third. Honestly, I did not pay attention what kits am I plucking them from. The FAST style fuel injection piece, the "carburator" piece and the air filter (not in the picture because it got painted and it's drying) are from the Boyd Coddington's Eldorod, which Foose shamelessly claims as his own. Everything is glued together prior to paint, as it will be mostly the same color. The frame, fenders, body and hoods are all standard issue Tudor Sedan. Not chopped. I would have to show you pictures tomorrow, as they were painted not too long ago today and are drying. The interior is going to be the kit's standard, maybe slightly modified, just for being different's sake. Thanks for looking. 5
mrm Posted May 28, 2023 Author Posted May 28, 2023 Some time ago, I had purchased a set of 3D printed artillery wheels from e-bay. I don't remember the vendor, but when I received them, I remember being somewhat disappointed because all four were identical and they were way too small. Both in diameter and how narrow they were. The original idea was to use the Big'n little tires that came in the Tudor Sedan with the wire wheels from the same kit. Then I found these artillery wheels, which I had forgotten about. However they don't fit in either the front or rear tires. Ma favorite street rod Big'n little tire combo is what comes in the original Revell '32 Roadster. I always wished they included them in some of the other '32 kits and perhaps offered some more wheels choices. The 3D printed artillery wheels fit perfect in these fronts, as long as the ridge inside the tire is cut out. However, the rear is too small in diameter and way too narrow. And then I spilled a small box full of wheels and while putting everything back inside I found the backing pieces for the original Roadster kit wheels. And an idea was born. Cut the rim from the backing piece, sand down the lip on the printed artillery wheel and mate them. Now I had not only a wheel with the proper diameter, but also I could create a staggered fitment with deeper rears. I am so happy I finally figured out the rolling stock for this Rod. Now I can have a really bitchin' stance too. 8
catpack68 Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 Nice work so far and I hope this is the 32 Tudor you’re doing 5
mrm Posted May 28, 2023 Author Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, catpack68 said: Nice work so far and I hope this is the 32 Tudor you’re doing Getting there ? 5
mrm Posted May 28, 2023 Author Posted May 28, 2023 The wheels are turning into a project of their own. To get hub caps that small, I had to ruin a set of the chromed wire wheels from the Tudor Sedan kit. Cutting the centers out and then sanding them in a cone shape, so they drop in the centers of the artillery wheels is rather tedious process. But it will look cool... So, the rear wheels are made of total of five pieces each and the front are four pieces each. To make this wheel/tire set the total parts list is: - 4 rear inner wheel halves from the original Revell '32 Roadster. Two rims for the outside and two rims for the inside of the wheel in order to bring them to proper width. Also the deeper hubs from the rear were used on all four artillery centers in order for the fronts to have proper offset and come out in the fenders. - 2 front inner wheel halves to bring the front artillery wheels up to proper width. - 4 outer wheel halves from the Revell '32 Tudor Sedan for the center caps - 4 3D printed artillery wheels (sorry, I don't have the vendor) - 4 tires that come in the original Revell '32 Roadster. So far I think parts from seven or eight kits have been used plus some aftermarket will be involved. The black bits are Tamiya Gloss Black. The two greens are Rsusto-Leum Spray paint through my airbrush. Everything is 2K clear coated. Or it will be painted this way if it hasn't already. Thanks for looking and stay tuned... 5
mrm Posted May 28, 2023 Author Posted May 28, 2023 I am not happy with the hoods and the grille, so they are going to be be redone. The side hoods are going to come from the Sedan, but the firewall, top hood and the grille are going to come from the recently reissued Revell '32 Roadster. I like its grille shell better, because it has the Ford emblem and cap molded into it. 7
mrm Posted May 29, 2023 Author Posted May 29, 2023 Most of my day was spent with family today, but I still got to do few tricky stuff. I wanted to use the new Revell Roadster fire wall. Well, let's say that most of the parts in that kit are not directly interchangeable with the rest of the '32 kits. The top hood is wider than the cowl of the Tudor Sedan and just looks awkward on that body. It is also much thinner (which is actually nice). This necessitates the use of the stock hood from the Tudor kit. That hood however does not fit on top of the stock firewall from the roadster kit. The other issue with the firewall is that if does not meet the floor board where it should. So, I pulled a trick from 1:1 rodding and doubled the firewall. I glued the one from the roadster on top of the one from the Sedan and then sanded the difference, so the contour matched the intended shape for the sedan. Now I have a true double firewall to hide all electronics, cables etc.. LOL I also primed the engine and put some BMF over the valve covers, which is part of something new I want to try. The interior got most of my time today. I scribed lines where I wanted to create a new "panel" and then glued wire in the groove. The picture is before primer. I usually use Tamiya spray can grey primer. This time I used the Mr.Surfacer tuff and can confidently say that Tamiya still is the best. A lot more paint to come tomorrow... 4
Jay Whittaker Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 Fantastic start to this tribute! Beautiful execution on overcoming the wheel debacle.
Rocking Rodney Rat Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 Nice work on the wheels... Looking forward to seeing more... -RRR
OldNYJim Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/28/2023 at 1:50 AM, mrm said: I had purchased a set of 3D printed artillery wheels from e-bay. I don't remember the vendor Those look a lot like the ones @IceMan Collections sells, in case anyone is wondering… 1
David G. Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 Fabulous work so far, you have excellent kit-bashing skills. David G.
Mr. Metallic Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 9:17 PM, mrm said: The FAST style fuel injection piece, the "carburator" piece and the air filter (not in the picture because it got painted and it's drying) are from the Boyd Coddington's Eldorod, which Foose shamelessly claims as his own. Not to derail your great build thread, but thought you may like to know... https://customrodder.forumactif.org/t6378-1948-cadillac-eldorod-boyd-coddington-chip-foose
Can-Con Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mr. Metallic said: Not to derail your great build thread, but thought you may like to know... https://customrodder.forumactif.org/t6378-1948-cadillac-eldorod-boyd-coddington-chip-foose Yea, I'm thinking the only input Boyd had in that car was to come around and holler at the workers to hurry up every couple days. ? Chip designed it, the rest of the workers at the shop built it.
mrm Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Can-Con said: Yea, I'm thinking the only input Boyd had in that car was to come around and holler at the workers to hurry up every couple days. ? Chip designed it, the rest of the workers at the shop built it. That’s an argument that can go on and on. The fact is that the car was commissioned at Boyd’s, Build by Boyd’s and delivered by Boyd’s under Boyd’s brand, which at the time was a publicly traded company-unprecedented for a hot rod builder. And at that time it would have never materialized if not for Boyd’s. Foose was just one of the employees at Boyd’s and the design for the Eldorod was commissioned, paid for and therefore owned by Boyd. Larry Ericson (spelling?) also designed quite few cars for Boyd. And Li’l John Buttera was also instrumental in the creation of many of Boyd’s chassis. But I don’t see either one of them entering Boyd built cars in shows or getting lucrative colab deals under their own name and doing it only after Boyd’s death. We all had posters of Lambos and Ferraris on our wall, but I’m yet to see one reading Pininfarina Testarossa or Bertone Countach, after Enzo or Ferucio died. Altho they didn’t even “holler at the workers to hurry up every couple of days” and every one knows who designed those cars. Those studios also made their own cars, often based on Ferraris and Lambos or whatever, but not commissioned by those brands. And they, rightfully so, presented them at car shows and sold them as their own. What Foose is doing is capitalizing on projects that he was just a part of and could have never created by himself at the time, let alone market them and claiming them as his own. He did the same thing with two other Boyd’s cars. I love Foose’ work and admire his talent, which is undeniably off the charts. But that’s no excuse for his antics. Edited June 1, 2023 by mrm 2
mrm Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 Now, back on topic. My usual preferred method of masking - Farious Tamiya tape for general masking and BMF for the finer stuff. 2
Can-Con Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, mrm said: That’s an argument that can go on and on. The fact is that the car was commissioned at Boyd’s, Build by Boyd’s and delivered by Boyd’s under Boyd’s brand, which at the time was a publicly traded company-unprecedented for a hot rod builder. And at that time it would have never materialized if not for Boyd’s. Foose was just one of the employees at Boyd’s and the design for the Eldorod was commissioned, paid for and therefore owned by Boyd. Larry Ericson (spelling?) also designed quite few cars for Boyd. And Li’l John Buttera was also instrumental in the creation of many of Boyd’s chassis. But I don’t see either one of them entering Boyd built cars in shows or getting lucrative colab deals under their own name and doing it only after Boyd’s death. We all had posters of Lambos and Ferraris on our wall, but I’m yet to see one reading Pininfarina Testarossa or Bertone Countach, after Enzo or Ferucio died. Altho they didn’t even “holler at the workers to hurry up every couple of days” and every one knows who designed those cars. Those studios also made their own cars, often based on Ferraris and Lambos or whatever, but not commissioned by those brands. And they, rightfully so, presented them at car shows and sold them as their own. What Foose is doing is capitalizing on projects that he was just a part of and could have never created by himself at the time, let alone market them and claiming them as his own. He did the same thing with two other Boyd’s cars. I love Foose’ work and admire his talent, which is undeniably off the charts. But that’s no excuse for his antics. Ok, I obviously know nothing about it so I'll refrain from commenting on it any more.
mrm Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Can-Con said: Ok, I obviously know nothing about it so I'll refrain from commenting on it any more. That's a ratter harsh stand to take. You have your opinion and I respect your right to express it. Same way I have my opinion and I have the right to have a different opinion than yours. Ad I am not forcing it on anyone. Merely expressing my point of view and explaining why I feel the way I do about Foose taking ownership of some of Boyd's creations.
mrm Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 Meanwhile... The interior was sprayed with Tamiya USAF Olive Drab. The dash and the upper trim of the interior panels were painted with the Wallmart issue Rsto-Leum Mint color. The outlined panels in the seats were sprayed with Tamiya Anodized Green (their RC lexan body paint) Those accent panels were then covered with some Scalemotorsport upholstery pattern decals. This kills some of the shine of the metallic green and adds cool texture detail. I am happy with how everything works together. I just need to figure out the carpeting and to detail the dash. Thanks for looking and stay tuned... 3
Can-Con Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Just now, mrm said: That's a ratter harsh stand to take. You have your opinion and I respect your right to express it. Same way I have my opinion and I have the right to have a different opinion than yours. Ad I am not forcing it on anyone. Merely expressing my point of view and explaining why I feel the way I do about Foose taking ownership of some of Boyd's creations. OK. This is the part I had a problem with,, " But I don’t see either one of them entering Boyd built cars in shows or getting lucrative colab deals under their own name and doing it only after Boyd’s death. " Foose left Boyds and had a very successful career almost 10 years before Coddington died. You kinda make it sound like Foose worked for him right up until he passed and then picked over his bones to make his name. A knee-jerk reaction on my part maybe, but, hey, maybe I really do know nothing about the subject. ?
Can-Con Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Anyway Michael, I do want to apologies for the off topic posts, I really shouldn't have said anything.
mrm Posted June 2, 2023 Author Posted June 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Can-Con said: Anyway Michael, I do want to apologies for the off topic posts, I really shouldn't have said anything. It's all good. I actually appreciate people expressing their opinions. I believe that truth is found in argument. I don't take it personal when someone disagrees with my point of view. I actually believe people should do express their opinion more openly without worry if they are going to hurt someone's feelings. Of course it would be nice if people were commenting more on the work I put on display, rather than my opinion about the right for a kit that I got a carburetor from. ? That's all in good humor of course. 2
Dennis Lacy Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 42 minutes ago, mrm said: Of course it would be nice if people were commenting more on the work I put on display… Speaking of your Sedan, I really like the way you are detailing the interior. Those upholstery inserts are rad! In general the whole car is coming along nicely. Stance is on-point!
David G. Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 I like the interior detailing, very eye-catching! David G.
mrm Posted June 3, 2023 Author Posted June 3, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 10:54 PM, Dennis Lacy said: Speaking of your Sedan, I really like the way you are detailing the interior. Those upholstery inserts are rad! In general the whole car is coming along nicely. Stance is on-point! 7 hours ago, David G. said: I like the interior detailing, very eye-catching! David G. Thank you gentlemen. I was trying to change the stock interior of the kit just enough to make it my own, while keeping it relatively simple.
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