junkyardjeff Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 This was with that bunch of parts I picked up early last year and is going to get restored,going to remove the side pipes and repaint and the chassis is definitely going to be painted. It has a incomplete engine and have one coming and might see if I can get a nicer set of bumpers. I am also going to see if I can find some stock wheel covers or ralley wheels. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kah puts Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 It has great bones, I wouldn’t give up on that engine just yet 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 I do not have the parts to fix it but have them on the way,I have a complete unbuilt 65 engine on the way that should have the parts I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I like where this is going. Got my eye on one on that auction site along with a 66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 9 minutes ago, junkyardjeff said: I do not have the parts to fix it but have them on the way,I have a complete unbuilt 65 engine on the way that should have the parts I need. Jeff, have you compared the '65 engine to that one? From the ones I've seen the earlier kit engines look a bit smaller then the '65 up but don't have one for comparison. Also, I've been told the '63/'64 kit front bumper/park light parts are not quite the same as the '65 so it doesn't fit, but then again, I don't have one to compare. BUT, can't wait to see what you do with it as I'm a Riviera fan and have owned a couple in the past. [can't afford one now, they're too popular] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Probably just use the whole 65 engine but are the optional Buick engine in the 40 Ford kits similarly made. I noticed all the Ford FE engines of that era were similar except the trans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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junkyardjeff Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 It's apart and must of been in a damp area since I had a hard time getting the screws out and were rusty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgefever Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 1/8/2024 at 12:01 AM, Can-Con said: Jeff, have you compared the '65 engine to that one? From the ones I've seen the earlier kit engines look a bit smaller then the '65 up but don't have one for comparison. Also, I've been told the '63/'64 kit front bumper/park light parts are not quite the same as the '65 so it doesn't fit, but then again, I don't have one to compare. BUT, can't wait to see what you do with it as I'm a Riviera fan and have owned a couple in the past. [can't afford one now, they're too popular] I would have thought they shared the same tooling for the engine, but I have all three, so I can check tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kah puts Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Looking forward to the answer to this engine mystery 🤓🚀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgefever Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Didn't get a chance to search the loft today... will update tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenmojr Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Nice restoration project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1303s Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) Looks your engine is pretty much complete for the custom or drag version minus the fan belt, fan, and generator (delcotron) according to the instructions ! https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/automotive-cars--pi/buick/amt_1963_buick_rivi/1963_rivierra_amt_2.html#media Edited January 13 by milo1303s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgefever Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Here we are then - Steve was correct, the '63/'64 engines are the same, but the '65 was retooled. The earlier ones have a partial Dynaflow transmission. '65 has a passing resemblance to a four speed. The '65 also has a timing cover/water pump/crossover part, which is completely absent in the earlier kits. The '63/'64 engines measure 21.8mm along the deck and the heads are 21.6mm long; the '65 block is 21.5mm along the deck and the heads are only 20.2mm long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgefever Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/8/2024 at 12:01 AM, Can-Con said: Also, I've been told the '63/'64 kit front bumper/park light parts are not quite the same as the '65 so it doesn't fit, but then again, I don't have one to compare. They will fit onto the '65 body, as will the grille, but the '65 headlight pods are taller, so you'd have a gap at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobss396 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/7/2024 at 7:15 PM, junkyardjeff said: Probably just use the whole 65 engine but are the optional Buick engine in the 40 Ford kits similarly made. I noticed all the Ford FE engines of that era were similar except the trans. I'm doing a '40 Ford now and am using the Buick engine... which is like meh and far not accurate... It needed a ton of work to look decent. I have swapped other engines into the '40 but unless you are in for a lot of "plastic surgery" on the chassis, best option is to saw off the transmission from another donor engine and use the '40 transmission. I have scavenged the AMT '66 Riviera kit for the nailheads. I also have a '62 Buick kit I should look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 Now to figure out what color to paint it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Great project Jeff. The 63-65 buicks are hands down the best looking cars from GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Are the wheel covers the same in the 65 kit? If so I have a set still on the tree you can have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Keef said: Are the wheel covers the same in the 65 kit? If so I have a set still on the tree you can have. Do not know but should be close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 Got color. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moparman18064 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Looks so much better already, nice color choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills72sj Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I love this era Riv's. My Dad had one for a little while in the early 70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 Getting closer and need to figure out what to do with the bumpers as the chrome is about gone, probably will strip and paint with chrome paint 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, junkyardjeff said: Getting closer and need to figure out what to do with the bumpers as the chrome is about gone, probably will strip and paint with chrome paint Love that color blue! Looks great on that body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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