peteski Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I noticed when I clicked on the image and it enlarged, there was no red in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 1017 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Why a Coke can? There are a lot of things that are red. I don't even drink Coke. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLIBUD Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Trippy,very trippy 😵💫😵💫🫨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89AKurt Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Very interesting. Much easier than looking at the Magic Eye images where you had to stare just right to see a 3D image pop out. 😳 When I was growing up, dad had a friend who was a PhD studying the brain at UofA. One dinner night, he got on a discussion about what he was doing, and he lost us after how the synapsis work. Sad that he was inflicted with Dementia. We are an amazing thing, until we aren't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 4 hours ago, Mike 1017 said: Why a Coke can? Because all that subliminal product-placement over the years has programmed your brain to see Coke cans in random patterns? Just a thought... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 (edited) On 6/17/2024 at 12:03 PM, Mike C said: I noticed when I clicked on the image and it enlarged, there was no red in it. When I clicked on it and it enlarged about 50%, I still saw the red...but if I got right up on the image, the red went away. PART of the way it works is that you're really seeing is gray as your brain blends adjacent black and white, but because we're wired for pattern recognition, and "remember" patterns we've seen previously and interpret things that are similar as being the same, your brain inserts the red where it's "remembered" it's supposed to go. I was looking out the window the other day and swore there was a huge hawk sitting in a tree, but when I got the binocs out it was only a pattern made by leaves that my brain had interpreted as "hawk". Edited June 18 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 12 hours ago, Mike 1017 said: Why a Coke can? There are a lot of things that are red. I don't even drink Coke. Mike I suspect that like Bill mentioned, even if you don't drink or even like Coca Cola, your brain has seen enough images of Coke cans during your life, your brain knows it is supposed to be red. I also think the blue is there for a reason. I made the image grayscale (which converted blue to light gray) and the coke can does not look red. Brain is far from infallible and ripe for being fooled or . . . brainwashed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 26 minutes ago, peteski said: I suspect that like Bill mentioned, even if you don't drink or even like Coca Cola, your brain has seen enough images of Coke cans during your life, your brain knows it is supposed to be red. I also think the blue is there for a reason. I made the image grayscale (which converted blue to light gray) and the coke can does not look red. Brain is far from infallible and ripe for being fooled or . . . brainwashed. Absolutely fascinating. I wonder just exactly what the function of the blue is to trick you into seeing red. If I was going to live forever, I'd definitely put this on my list of deep dives. Alas, the days grow short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 I wonder how color blind individuals see the original image. Most color blindness is not total (as in grayscale), but usually red/green blindness, so it would be curious how they see the original image (and how they see the color of a real can of Coke). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 1017 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Why can't we see a red Coke can, blue sky, green trees, in a black and white photos? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 5 hours ago, Mike 1017 said: Why can't we see a red Coke can, blue sky, green trees, in a black and white photos? Mike That's deep Mike! Because those are black/white photos. When I removed the only other color (blue) from that picture, the red also disappeared, as it became a black/white picture. Like I mentioned, I think the blue has something to do with us seeing red. Maybe the brain only fills the missing color when there is another color in the picture? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 1017 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 This is a very interesting conversation. The brain is full of mysteries. Here is another one for evolution deniers. If there is no such thing as evolution, why is it that the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans could not invent a Jet Airplane? Obviously, the brain does evolve. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitchdup Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 37 minutes ago, Mike 1017 said: This is a very interesting conversation. The brain is full of mysteries. Here is another one for evolution deniers. If there is no such thing as evolution, why is it that the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans could not invent a Jet Airplane? Obviously, the brain does evolve. Mike this is more evolution of technology. they couldn't invent a powered aircraft but they did play with baloons and gliders. the technology for powered flight couldn't happen before oil was discovered, not because of the lack of fuel but because no-one had a seemingly useless product to find a use for until then. most technology is designed for a need and very little is the massive leap we see from glider to jet but even those could be understood by people from back in those times as the principles are the same, theres just thousands of tiny creeps forward in technology of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Honestly, I don't think that it's that our eyes are trained to see red in conjunction with a Coke can. I'm seeing light shades of red throughout the small photo, which of course all disappear when it's blown up. I see red in some portions of the hand holding the can, as well as tinges of pink or red in some of the lighter background areas on either side of the can. I of course know nothing about this kind of stuff, but it appears to me to have to do with something other than vision memory. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 1017 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 22 hours ago, stitchdup said: this is more evolution of technology. they couldn't invent a powered aircraft but they did play with baloons and gliders. the technology for powered flight couldn't happen before oil was discovered, not because of the lack of fuel but because no-one had a seemingly useless product to find a use for until then. most technology is designed for a need and very little is the massive leap we see from glider to jet but even those could be understood by people from back in those times as the principles are the same, theres just thousands of tiny creeps forward in technology of difference. I agree with the evolution of technology, but it takes the human brain to advance technology and inventions. My point is: Why the ancients could not develop modern technology. The Polio Vaccine was invented in 1952 what took so long? Thank you for your comments. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 4 hours ago, Mike 1017 said: I agree with the evolution of technology, but it takes the human brain to advance technology and inventions. My point is: Why the ancients could not develop modern technology. The Polio Vaccine was invented in 1952 what took so long? Thank you for your comments. Mike It is the same reason Les mentioned: lack of technology. Ancients did not know diseases were caused by bacteria or viruses (they have not yet invented microscopes), so they could not develop vaccines. Back in the day, people thought Earth was the center of the universe and was flat. Human brain is just a biological organ. It has very little information when we are born, and it learns as we age. I'm pretty certain if we could somehow bring a baby from ancient times and have it grow up in today's world, it would function just like the rest of us. It might even invent something new. The learned knowledge makes the difference in shaping the human brain. And don't forget that ancient Egyptians built all those pyramids, and we still haven't really figured out how they did it using their basic tools. Leonardo Da Vinci had some interesting ideas for flying machines, but the technology hasn't yet evolved to allow him to actually build working examples. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 1017 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Peter, If you are interested in How the pyramids were built there is a lot of information available. There was this guy Eric Von Donegan who wrote the book Chariot of the Gods (published Jan 1, 1968) who wrote that Aliens built the Great Pyramids, Stonehenge , and other ancient wonders. I read it and was fascinated by it. I also went to hear him speak at a local college. What a bunch of B.S. Thanks for the great conversation. I am going back to build my cars. I have spoken ( Kuilil from the series Mandalorian) Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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