Chassis Question

[Johnielse]

just curious if anyone can explain why American trucks have massively long chassis'?

 

Better ride quality? Easier to back? Harder to find a park?

 

What's the reason behind it?

[DJMar]

Because you can't put a 4 door cab and 6 foot bed on anything less than a 19 foot frame.

On a more serious note, if you want to go down a rabbit hole, read up on US CAFE standards and what happened with them in 2011.

[Carmak]

DJ is spot on with the CAFE standards change. It allows more fuel consumption for larger vehicles. 

Additionally, Americans tend to buy trucks buy the foot, a longer truck can command a higher price because of the perception that you are getting "more" truck.

Lastly, except in a few of the large cities America has lots of space, so a long truck is not really difficult to use. I live in a rural area in the central part of the US (Iowa), and I have a truck that is 6.5 meters long that I use to pull an enclosed car trailer that is 8.5 meters long. I have traveled to many parts of Europe and Asia and my truck would be ridiculous in many of those places but where I live it is considered normal. Please understand I only drive my truck to move loads, I daily drive a minivan  .

[Ace-Garageguy]

Another thing to remember...the majority of new, huge, high-dollar pickup trucks in the US, particularly in urban areas, are rarely if ever actually used as "trucks", but rather are displays as status-symbols ($80-$100,000 in some cases) or "lifestyle/fashion statements".

As such, bigger is obviously better.

 

Edited yesterday at 03:10 PM by Ace-Garageguy

[iamsuperdan]

Are you asking about pickups or big rigs?

 

With big rigs, the cabover design  was popular when there were length restrictions on trucks. Shorter cab meant you could have a longer trailer, thus carry more load. 

When the length restrictions disappeared, there was no longer any need to have short cabs. 

And of course, this lead inevitably to Bill's peacock analogy above.

 

[Tim W. SoCal]

2 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Another thing to remember...the majority of new, huge, high-dollar pickup trucks in the US, particularly in urban areas, are rarely if ever actually used as "trucks", but rather are displays as status-symbols ($80,000 in some cases) or "lifestyle/fashion statements".

  It used to break my heart, yet crack me up when I was running the Service Department at a Powersports Dealer... These guys go out and spend $60K-80K on a new top-of-the-line pickup truck, then spend another $12K-20K for a 8"-12" lift, big, wide off road tires, Flowmaster mufflers, etc. They would also buy a new dirt bike at the same time. Now these guys weren't the most mechanically astute, so when they needed to replace their dirt bike tires (at the dealer because they wouldn't get their hands dirty) they would pull the wheels from the bike and, since they couldn't remember where the wheel spacers went, they would put the spacers on the axles and install the axles into the hubs. Now, with their super spiffy high-lifted trucks, they could not reach over the bed sides or even access the back of the bed with the tail gate down without using a ladder, so they threw their wheels onto the floor between the front and rear seats. As they traveled, the wheels would roll across the truck from side to side, causing the exposed axles to deeply scratch and scar the leather upholstery on the front of the rear seat and the backs of the front seats. Yep, tear up the interior of your truck, all for the illusion of being "cool"...

[espo]

20 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Another thing to remember...the majority of new, huge, high-dollar pickup trucks in the US, particularly in urban areas, are rarely if ever actually used as "trucks", but rather are displays as status-symbols ($80-$100,000 in some cases) or "lifestyle/fashion statements".

As such, bigger is obviously better.

 

So very true. 

[StevenGuthmiller]

On 9/8/2025 at 3:46 PM, Ace-Garageguy said:

Another thing to remember...the majority of new, huge, high-dollar pickup trucks in the US, particularly in urban areas, are rarely if ever actually used as "trucks", but rather are displays as status-symbols ($80-$100,000 in some cases) or "lifestyle/fashion statements".

As such, bigger is obviously better.

 

Some might find that humorous, but it’s absolute truth!

Gone are the days when pickups were designed to be “work vehicles”.

Now they’re mostly basically open back luxury station wagons, and most “working people” can’t afford them.

 

 

Steve

Edited yesterday at 09:36 PM by StevenGuthmiller

[1972coronet]

On 9/8/2025 at 1:46 PM, Ace-Garageguy said:

Another thing to remember...the majority of new, huge, high-dollar pickup trucks in the US, particularly in urban areas, are rarely if ever actually used as "trucks", but rather are displays as status-symbols ($80-$100,000 in some cases) or "lifestyle/fashion statements".

As such, bigger is obviously better.

 

Now that's just ostentatious ! 

[Rodent]

4 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

Now that's just ostentatious ! 

They are loud and obnoxious as well. There must be a RAM badge there somewhere....

[Beans]

14 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Some might find that humorous, but it’s absolute truth!

Gone are the days when pickups were designed to be “work vehicles”.

Now they’re mostly basically open back luxury station wagons, and most “working people” can’t afford them.

 

 

Steve

When the standard for cab construction went from two to four doors I knew it was the downfall of the pickup truck.  5 people should not fit comfortably in any pickup!

[NOBLNG]

1 hour ago, Beans said:

When the standard for cab construction went from two to four doors I knew it was the downfall of the pickup truck.  5 people should not fit comfortably in any pickup!

Pre-Ram days.😁

Edit: How about six…we don’t need no stinkin’ center consol.😜

Edited 10 hours ago by NOBLNG

[Beans]

11 minutes ago, NOBLNG said:

Pre-Ram days.😁

Blasphemy!! 😆 

[Ace-Garageguy]

57 minutes ago, NOBLNG said:

Pre-Ram days.😁

Yeah, but that was built to carry a dirty smelly work crew to and from a jobsite, probably with heavy vinyl upholstery and rubber mats so you could hose it out once a week.

And today, built to carry a crew of middle managers to and from the wilds of shopping malls and frou frou restaurants:

Edited 10 hours ago by Ace-Garageguy
punctiliousness

[Rob Hall]

36 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Yeah, but that was built to carry a dirty smelly work crew to and from a jobsite, probably with heavy vinyl upholstery and rubber mats so you could hose it out once a week.

And today, built to carry a crew of middle managers to and from the wilds of shopping malls and frou frou restaurants:

 

That is funny...last time I rode in a crew cab pickup it was with a group of engineers from my company at the Plano HQ, we were going out after meetings in search of BBQ and Buc-ees.  It was a nice Ram Laramie Longhorn w/ a leather interior and all the goodies. 

[NOBLNG]

International Harvester started it all, although this is technically farm equipment.🤣🤣🤣

Edited 8 hours ago by NOBLNG

[DJMar]

4 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Yeah, but that was built to carry a dirty smelly work crew to and from a jobsite, probably with heavy vinyl upholstery and rubber mats so you could hose it out once a week.

USFS used trucks like this to move fire, trail and maintenance crews with all their gear, up and down FS roads (or no roads). Vinyl bench seats front and rear, rubber mats, and sometimes a manual transmission.

It's true that sometimes they didn't smell the best, but then again, they weren't meant to swaddle you in creature comforts. And you never saw them taking up 2+ spots in the grocery store parking lot.

 

[rattle can man]

I shall hold onto my $1000 dollar no-frills work truck forever. And the I6 engine will last forever. No gee-gaws to fail. Sure AC would be nice, but it's not necessary.