Kelly Posted Friday at 03:01 AM Posted Friday at 03:01 AM Help! I’m a beginner and I tried to paint trunk between tail lights and I found out the hard way you can’t paint over chrome So as you can see I screwed it up! So my next project is a 62 impala and I want to paint the same panel How do you remove the chrome on that part without removing the chrome on the whole bumper? Please 🙏 help this old man will be much appreciated Thank you Kelly
Shark Posted Friday at 12:18 PM Posted Friday at 12:18 PM What kind of paint are you using, I believe that's where the problem is. Might try washing the part in Dawn detergent before painting to remove any mold release. On bigger areas like a tail light panel, you could fold up some fine sandpaper and scuff that area up. 3
bobss396 Posted Friday at 01:16 PM Posted Friday at 01:16 PM I have cut similar parts apart being careful with a razor saw. Paint and rejoin them after. 1
johnyrotten Posted Friday at 01:51 PM Posted Friday at 01:51 PM Are you looking to completely strip and paint/re-chrome the panel? Easy-off oven cleaner will remove the chrome.
MeatMan Posted Friday at 02:12 PM Posted Friday at 02:12 PM 1 hour ago, Shark said: What kind of paint are you using, I believe that's where the problem is. Might try washing the part in Dawn detergent before painting to remove any mold release. On bigger areas like a tail light panel, you could fold up some fine sandpaper and scuff that area up. It might be helpful if you recommend a paint that he should use. I've never attempted to paint over chrome myself. 1
TECHMAN Posted Friday at 03:33 PM Posted Friday at 03:33 PM Everybody has a different method, so you should get several different answers....... Mine, like BOB's, would be to cut the bumper loose from the panel with a razor saw, toss the upper panel you want to paint into a "stripper" (personally, I use Walmart's private label bleach) to "de-chrome" it, then I use an oil-base paint (such as Testor's) to paint the part, glue them back together afterwards, and you should have the results you're looking for without tons of effort.... Hope that helps..... 😊 DJ
NOBLNG Posted Friday at 03:55 PM Posted Friday at 03:55 PM (edited) It is just the black area you need to paint so I have two suggestions. One would be to carefully mask and spray paint the black area. Then the paint could be carefully rubbed off the raised script with a Q-tip moistened with the appropriate thinner, similar to the BMF under paint method. Second, if you are brush painting it, would be to very carefully scrape or sand the chrome off the area to be painted. Spraying it should lay down smoothly over the chrome I’m guessing, but you could scuff the area to be painted for added adhesion. Edited Friday at 03:58 PM by NOBLNG 3
Swamp Dog Posted Friday at 04:02 PM Posted Friday at 04:02 PM 5 minutes ago, NOBLNG said: I have two suggestions. One would be to carefully mask and spray paint the black area. Then the paint could be carefully rubbed off the raised script with a Q-tip moistened with the appropriate thinner, similar to the BMF under paint method. Second, if you are brush painting it, would be to very carefully scrape or sand the chrome off the area to be painted. Spraying it should lay down smoothly over the chrome I’m guessing, but you could scuff the area to be painted for added adhesion. i agree with you Greg..
Shark Posted Friday at 04:39 PM Posted Friday at 04:39 PM It might be helpful if you recommend a paint that he should use. I've never attempted to paint over chrome myself I have used Testors and Tamiya bottles to paint on chrome with good results. I thought he might be using a craft paint or a water based product. When painting the panel pictured, I will thin down the color I am using and flow it up to the edges and around the emblems like a wash, then when it it dry, paint the rest with the unthinned paint. This way gives a nice sharp edge 2
Fat Brian Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Posted Friday at 06:31 PM It's hard to do something like that perfectly clean, use a Qtip with whatever solvent you need to clean your painting off quickly before it completely dries. Tamiya panel line accenter also helps with the narrow lines and emblems. Its also helpful to have a chrome pen of some kind to touch up the chrome because you can rub through if you work it too much.
Kelly Posted Friday at 07:19 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:19 PM 5 hours ago, bobss396 said: I have cut similar parts apart being careful with a razor saw. Paint and rejoin them after. Thanks But I have nerve damage from arthritis in my neck causing my hands to shake so cutting I don’t want to try! Haha!
Kelly Posted Friday at 07:23 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:23 PM 7 hours ago, Shark said: What kind of paint are you using, I believe that's where the problem is. Might try washing the part in Dawn detergent before painting to remove any mold release. On bigger areas like a tail light panel, you could fold up some fine sandpaper and scuff that area up. Thanks I use Tamiya flat black I do have a extra part so maybe I will try sanding it for practice first then paint
Kelly Posted Friday at 07:25 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:25 PM 3 hours ago, NOBLNG said: It is just the black area you need to paint so I have two suggestions. One would be to carefully mask and spray paint the black area. Then the paint could be carefully rubbed off the raised script with a Q-tip moistened with the appropriate thinner, similar to the BMF under paint method. Second, if you are brush painting it, would be to very carefully scrape or sand the chrome off the area to be painted. Spraying it should lay down smoothly over the chrome I’m guessing, but you could scuff the area to be painted for added adhesion. Thank you 1
Kelly Posted Friday at 07:30 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:30 PM 2 hours ago, Shark said: It might be helpful if you recommend a paint that he should use. I've never attempted to paint over chrome myself I have used Testors and Tamiya bottles to paint on chrome with good results. I thought he might be using a craft paint or a water based product. When painting the panel pictured, I will thin down the color I am using and flow it up to the edges and around the emblems like a wash, then when it it dry, paint the rest with the unthinned paint. This way gives a nice sharp edge Thanks I am just learning about wash’s so you have very helpful Thanks again
Kelly Posted Friday at 07:36 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:36 PM 1 hour ago, Fat Brian said: It's hard to do something like that perfectly clean, use a Qtip with whatever solvent you need to clean your painting off quickly before it completely dries. Tamiya panel line accenter also helps with the narrow lines and emblems. Its also helpful to have a chrome pen of some kind to touch up the chrome because you can rub through if you work it too much. Thanks Everyone is so helpful I appreciate you all I am a beginner so all the help I can get is perfect! I am enjoying this forum!
stitchdup Posted Friday at 07:47 PM Posted Friday at 07:47 PM do you have any paint pens? the really cheap ones stick to everything including chrome. the brand name versions maybe less so
Kelly Posted Friday at 07:55 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:55 PM 6 minutes ago, stitchdup said: do you have any paint pens? the really cheap ones stick to everything including chrome. the brand name versions maybe less so No I haven’t tried them yet So that’s something I will look into Thanks
TransAmMike Posted Friday at 09:34 PM Posted Friday at 09:34 PM 41 minutes ago, Jon Haigwood said: Bare Metal does come in black, The black BMF did not work for me. The black rubs off if you burnish it too much down to the silver under it. 2
R. Thorne Posted Friday at 10:32 PM Posted Friday at 10:32 PM (edited) I find myself using these dual tip acrylic markers more often these days. Edited Friday at 10:33 PM by R. Thorne
john sharisky Posted Friday at 11:20 PM Posted Friday at 11:20 PM I filled the black areas of this '67 Impala grille with non-waterproof black ink. It has the consistency of water. So each flat area of the part needs to be held flat and level until the ink dries. Any errors can be cleaned up with water (of course). John 1
Radretireddad Posted Friday at 11:39 PM Posted Friday at 11:39 PM Stay away from black chrome BMF. It’s too glossy for most trim, the adhesive on the back is almost non existent, and the black rubs through if you try to burnish it. For brush painting I shake my bottle of Tamiya semi gloss black acrylic, remove the cap and put one drop of thinner in the residual paint still in the cap. This makes the paint the perfect consistency for flowing on flat surfaces with a good brush. The alternative is airbrushing a small piece of chrome BMF with the same acrylic semi gloss black and applying it as usual after the paint dries. Be sure to burnish with something soft alike a cotton swab.
Kelly Posted yesterday at 12:01 AM Author Posted yesterday at 12:01 AM 1 hour ago, R. Thorne said: I find myself using these dual tip acrylic markers more often these days. Great idea thanks
Kelly Posted yesterday at 12:03 AM Author Posted yesterday at 12:03 AM 42 minutes ago, john sharisky said: I filled the black areas of this '67 Impala grille with non-waterproof black ink. It has the consistency of water. So each flat area of the part needs to be held flat and level until the ink dries. Any errors can be cleaned up with water (of course). John Dang that turned out great Thanks for the tip 1
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