Chuck Most Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 As far as the '57 Chevy, I wouldn't mind a '57 Nomad (the old Revell one and Monogram 1:24th ones aren't that good) and a '57 Bel Air convertible. And more variations of the '32 Ford would be interesting...Victoria, B-400, Phaeton, truck, Sedan Delivery, Sport Coupe, Cabriolet, 4 seat convertible, etc... Droptop new tool '57! Another no-brainer if you ask this apathetic-to-Tri-Five-Chevy guy. I'd love to see Revell do a closed cab pickup street rod from their existing Deuce tooling... pattern it after the Brookville street rod body and the fuel tank location becomes a moot point. And like I've said- from where I sit there's never been a better time than now to look forward to such kits.
sjordan Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 I'm among the 40+ to Boomer market that is most heavily represented among model builders. I just wonder how much of this market is cannibalized by the availability of beautiful diecasts that aren't available as kits, such as a bullet-nose Studebaker. If I have a nice one of those on my shelf, I don't need a kit. I spent a long time trying to put together everything I needed for an accurate Bugatti Atlantic because there was nothing good available, but suddenly there are many excellent diecasts on the market and I've lost interest in building one. Fortunately, there are lots of older vintage car kits that don't have very good diecast versions, and that keeps me going.
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) I do have quite a few very nice diecasts (ssssshhhhhh.... don't tell), but I'd still love to have a '39 Ford Convertible, '37 Studebaker Coupe Express, or a '70 Mustang without a pig-nose grille in plastic kit form, even though I have all three as built diecast models. I can't speak for everybody, but just having one in my collection as a diecast doesn't rule it out for a kit. Edited October 24, 2011 by Chuck Most
Rob Hall Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Rob, you posted while I was typing but you made my point. 2010, 2011, 2012 Mustang, Shelby, Boss 302, aren't they all the same car? Variations. You can say the same about all the '57 Chevy variations. The point is the new engine in the '11 GT....and the Boss 302 is a nice variation...and Revell released the '10 GT after the '11 GT had already come out in 1:1.
Craig Irwin Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 That was my point exactly. One Mustang kit doesn't cover all of the bases, and neither does one 57 Chevy kit.
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Trumpeter 78 Monte - colossal dog, even by Trumpeter standards. Sad part is? I think that kit could have cleaned house, if Trumpeter hadn't messed it up in such an epic way. The only reason I haven't bought that kit is... well, just look at one built up and you'll have my answer. It's almost like they had twenty different people designing the different subassemblies, and none of those twenty people communicated or acknowledged one another in any way during the entire process. I do plan on getting a couple of the Falcons when I can find them for a price I think is more in line with what I'm getting, but I will say I'm glad Trumpeter isn't as prolific as Revell when it comes to automotive releases. I really can't see Trumpeter doing much in the automotive arena after the last of the Falcons and Rancheros are out.
Junkman Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 That's what made me chuckle. "Wow. These guys must love having a stack of spare bodies laying around." I do like the AMT Model A Woody/Pickup, though- seems I always have enough spare Model A parts on hand to make a complete model with the spare body. Ditto the Revell Model A pickup that comes with a closed and roadster cab. But that's just me. I only hope the Revell A-bone still packs the track roadster nose. I'm out of them
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Most recent reissue (Goodguys logo) it did- as far as I know it's been with the kit since the beginning. (Every issue of it I'd owned has it.) It would be completely idiotic for them to remove ANY part from that kit, if you ask me.
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 That reminds me- Revell's Model A's- the '31 Tudor and the '29 pickup. Those kits are almost as old as plastic kits themselves (what are they, early '60's vintage?). Sure they're loaded with delicate, intricate parts, and they have molded headlamp lenses, but all things considered- as far as detail and accuracy goes, they rival the best of today's kits. I wonder if Revell could tool up a modern Model A and have it come close to those two golden oldies. When you consider that- its like the hobby has come full circle- they made amazingly detailed kits pretty much at the dawn of the hobby, went in to the bleaker years, when everything was molded together and detail was a bit lackadasical, and now we arrive at today, when most kits have more parts in just the engine than the total parts count in a typical annual kit of the '60's.
Junkman Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I'm among the 40+ to Boomer market that is most heavily represented among model builders. I just wonder how much of this market is cannibalized by the availability of beautiful diecasts that aren't available as kits, such as a bullet-nose Studebaker. If I have a nice one of those on my shelf, I don't need a kit. I spent a long time trying to put together everything I needed for an accurate Bugatti Atlantic because there was nothing good available, but suddenly there are many excellent diecasts on the market and I've lost interest in building one. Fortunately, there are lots of older vintage car kits that don't have very good diecast versions, and that keeps me going. I have all the quirky Motor Max eighties Mopars (yes, the Horizon too) and Pintos, Vegas, Mavericks and yes, the Gremlin. Since the plastic kitters seemed to have all the time in the world for the re-release of the latter, and didn't bother about the other stuff at all, the zinc melters got my doh meanwhile. It happens awfully often lately. I only wonder why the diecasters can do it and the plastic kitters not. More examples: - The Presidential Series: Diecasters 1 - Plastic kitters NIL - The fire engines: Diecasters 1 - Plastic kitters NIL - 1937 Studebaker Coupe Express: Diecasters 1 - Plastic kitters NIL - A whole bunch of Ford BB and Chevy 1-ton Trucks with beautiful bodies: Diecasters 1 - Plastic kitters NIL - 1:24/25 Motorbikes: Diecasters 1 - Plastic kitters NIL I could go on, and on, and on, and on... The proportion of diecasts is getting ever bigger in my collection. Not because I really collect diecasts. Because the kit industry doesn't leave me an alternative.
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 - 1937 Studebaker Coupe Express: Diecasters 1 - Plastic kitters NIL Yep, they got me too- Still, love to see a kit of it, but I am NOT holding my breath.
Junkman Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Yep, they got me too- Still, love to see a kit of it, but I am NOT holding my breath. Hey, look, model kit makers: They sell!
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 AND- for the price of one of these, I could have bought three or four hypothetical Coupe Express kits. And then chopped, hacked, and kitbashed to my little heart's content.
Brett Barrow Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I think a Stude Coupe Express would make a viable kit subject these days. Wouldn't shock me if it happened. I've brought it up a time or two...
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I think a Stude Coupe Express would make a viable kit subject these days. Wouldn't shock me if it happened. I've brought it up a time or two... Wait... WHAT?
Junkman Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I'd rather buy five Studebaker Pickups than one of those early fifties hippos on wheels.
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Somebody at a model company has actually considered kitting a coupe express????
Rob Hall Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 For a Studebaker, the one I'd really like to see kitted is the '62-64 GT Hawk.
Brett Barrow Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Somebody at a model company has actually considered kitting a coupe express???? Not a model company, but a model distributor. Of course, I'm pretty low on the totem pole in the grand scheme of things... Now if we could finally convince the powers that be at Revell that the billet street rod era is over and traditional hot rods aren't just a passing fad I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it in plastic.
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Not a model company, but a model distributor. Of course, I'm pretty low on the totem pole in the grand scheme of things... Now if we could finally convince the powers that be at Revell that the billet street rod era is over and traditional hot rods aren't just a passing fad I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it in plastic. If you need some people to storm their office building, sign me up!
Bernard Kron Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 ....Now if we could finally convince the powers that be at Revell that the billet street rod era is over and traditional hot rods aren't just a passing fad ..... Hmmmm.... Now that might explain more than a few things...
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I do have to give Revell a little credit for at least trying- the last couple of Deuce kits were a bit closer to being traditional, at least as far as looks go. They're still modern street rods under the skin, but Revell does seem to know how to make them look good.
Bernard Kron Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 With regard to the Rat Roaster, at least, I thinks it's really very simple: NO FAT FRONTS!!!* *For those who may have missed it a few pages back, it seems Revell is actually considering omitting the signature skinny front tires on Stacey David's Rat Roaster '32 Ford roadster.... perhaps even continuing with the antiquated and unwanted wide front tires that have blighted even the most recent releases of the Deuce series.
Chuck Most Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Why???? Don't they AT LEAST have something close already in the tooling banks?
Casey Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Why???? Don't they AT LEAST have something close already in the tooling banks? They could re-use the "new" tires on the Orange Crate kit, too, if they designed them to fit.
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