door windows,,,working crank

[rel14]

Just thought you hard core modelers might want to try this out,,,,

[sports850]

:blink: Well , I guess it is possible , wonder how many times you could wind it up and down before the cord inside jammed though . Where did you findd this gem ?

[Harry P.]

Not only would this be pretty hard to build, but my guess is that it would be a huge waste of time because I don't see the mechanism lasting or working more than 2-3 times before something breaks or jams or both.

[Chuck Most]

One of the guys here, Ernie (oldman23) has made a few working crank mechanisms out of brass- they're near exact miniatures of the real mechanism in 1:25. That's one of the few things I've seen in the scale model world which has actually left quite an impression on me!

[MrObsessive]

Not so fast.............the driver's side door of my '58 Impala has that exact mechanism. It's still working more than 10 years later. The trick is to use nylon thread for your pulley.

Those that know me have seen my other gear mechanism in action.................here's a pic of what I did to one model before it was closed in by the door construction.

With patience, it can be done!

[MrObsessive]

Also, Ken Hamilton made that illustration for a Mercury custom he built at the time for SAE. I saw this fantastic model with the working windows and all at a show back in 1987. He posts on this board, and he was the inspiration for me to tackle working windows.

It would be interesting to see if he still has the model, and if the windows still work after 25 years!

[southpier]

i think Dave Shuklis did it with a watch gear and coping saw rack in Car Modeler - circa 1962.

best part of throwing this out there is that someone will research it and post the real facts!

[mopar68]

Just saw this, I've gotta try this

[southpier]

i would imagine with Spectra thread and a knurled drum it might last a while.

after the first 30 times, how often will it be used? and if someone is building with this degree of sophistication, it's only a matter of time before they move on to other, more elaborate, things.

[Sixx]

Man, with my big fat monkey fingers, I'm surprised that I can even build anything!! LOL!!! let alone working windows! That's pretty dang cool!! I was hoping that Mr. Bill was gonna show his art!!!

[High octane]

Not so fast.............the driver's side door of my '58 Impala has that exact mechanism. It's still working more than 10 years later. The trick is to use nylon thread for your pulley.

Those that know me have seen my other gear mechanism in action.................here's a pic of what I did to one model before it was closed in by the door construction.

With patience, it can be done!

Yes Bill the window mecahnism in your doors worked perfectly as you've shown me at one of the Toledo NNLs in the past. Great job!

[cobraman]

While this is pretty cool I could never pull it off. I never would even try to acomplish this but my hats off to the people who have the talent to do this type of work.

[crazyjim]

Working windows?? Come on. Give me a break here. The stuff Bill (Mr. Obsessive) does is unreal. I wish he'd start posting his WIPs and builds on a regular basis. Please, Bill.

Edited July 14, 2012 by crazyjim

[JunkPile]

Gotta have closing windows so I can turn on the air-conditioning. It hot outside.

[charlie8575]

Gotta have closing windows so I can turn on the air-conditioning. It hot outside.

[charlie8575]

All I can say is "paging Mr. Goldberg, Mr. Rube Goldberg, your model is waiting."

Bill- I take it the mechanism you and Ernie used are somewhat similar? That's a nice piece of engineering, all kidding aside. I have a goofed-up body, maybe I can try this as an experiment with one of the doors.

Charlie Larkin

[KHamilton]

Also, Ken Hamilton made that illustration for a Mercury custom he built at the time for SAE. I saw this fantastic model with the working windows and all at a show back in 1987. He posts on this board, and he was the inspiration for me to tackle working windows.

It would be interesting to see if he still has the model, and if the windows still work after 25 years!

I just ran across this thread. For the record, the thread has never jammed or broken and the mechanism has worked perfectly for 25 years.

It's nowhere near as hi-tech as Bill's incredible window unit, but it got the job done.

Thanks for the kind words, Bill..!

[Dr. Cranky]

I think it is one of those techniques that has that WOW factor to it . . . you might do it once to show how utterly obsessive you are (a good thing) but you would go crazy doing it for every build.

I know both Mr. Geary and Mr. Hamilton thrive on such techniques, after all it must bring them a great deal of pleasure and pride to do so.

[michael1969]

I know this is an older thread, but I have the picture saved. I may have to try this on my 1/16 '87Camaro or 1/12 '67 Vette to practice the concept. Then I will move to the smaller scale....maybe. Bill, you just amaze me. My Cougar II still sits in it's box. Hopefully I can do it justice after seeing yours. Ken, you and Bill are two of a kind, that being legends.

[Casey]

Skip gets the credit for originally posting this link here on the forum: http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/Zimmermann.htm

[mopar68]

Wow

That looks very complicated, excellent work. Major props to Mr Zimmermann, all the work on that page is just insanely good

Edited November 22, 2012 by mopar68

[Jantrix]

Insanity.

[MrObsessive]

Now THAT is one heck of a soldering job!

Excellent workmanship Mr. Zimmerman!!

[oldman23]

Give credit where it is due. I just logged onto this thread and Yes Bill's window works great . Bill is the person that helped me develop my working windows for a hard top. I spent allot of time emailing Bill with Questions and sending him pictures and copying his Track and rase. I Modified mine to meet my needs as I'm sure allot of you will do the same after seeing Bill's and the rest of the great guys who have tried this and succeded

Ernie

oldman23

[CadillacPat]

Excellent on both techniques.

Always good to see others who are serious about having a good time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CadillacPat