mk11 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 The frame behind the cab was two inches wider from 73-up and the wheelbase was also 2" longer, made up by adding to the cab length not the box like some guys think. They also added 2" to each side of the rear axle to finally get the rear track to match the front. That wider axle is also a popular swap, to get the wheels out further in the back. Ford actually did run that cab tank all the way to '77, but there's not many around. Steering columns are also an easy swap, especially the '78/'79 tilt columns. mike
mikemodeler Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I would have to say that Mobieus has another couple of winners on their hands here with these kits- I know I am in for at least 4 of each! Is it September yet?
Chuck Most Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Is it September yet? I wish I could afford to be put in some sort of cryogenic stasis. Then the wait wouldn't seem as long.
mikemodeler Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I wish I could afford to be put in some sort of cryogenic stasis. Then the wait wouldn't seem as long. X2
Repstock Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I know this is all pre-production, but the 1969 grille should have all the openings the same width, not narrower outside than toward the center. I will be purchasing many of these kits, I already have my Moebius fund started.
Monty Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Hats off to Moebius for taking the initiative in creating these kits. The demand has been there for some time, but despite the long wait, it's probably better that we have these guys working on them. They don't seem to mind receiving input from knowledgeable people, which should result in a better overall kit.
gtx6970 Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 I'm not a ford guy or even a truck guy. But I will get a few of these for the stash. If I may , whats a tooling mockup compared to a pre- production piece ?
bbowser Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 Looking forward to this release. I had a '71 back in the day that was rough but ready, started every sub -20 morning in Duluth!
Dave Metzner Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 These are one-off pre-tooling mock-up models - In the old days these would be hand made - today they are generated from computer files and cut on CNC machines. These are done to provide a piece that mocks up the kit parts so that we can see how pieces fit together and look at the model as it will appear when it comes out of the steel tool. After we review these mock-ups the factory will make a number of corrections and we'll review and approve them before we start cutting steel for tooling. Pre-production - or test shots are produced from the same steel tooling that will produce the finished kit - ususally I'll get 6-8 sets of test shot parts - we use them to check fit of parts - to make sure that everything fits togther and that details are correct - most time there will be corrections made to the first and second sets of test shots usua;lly we'll go through 2-3 sets of test shots before we approve the tooling for mass production.
Modelbuilder Mark Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 ANY chance these will have an actual company logo on the tires? I know that the big boys like Firestone, Goodyear etc, may not be cost effective, but SURELY some of the smaller companies would love to have the chance to see their tires in scale.
1972coronet Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Tom Metzner - Thanks for the info regarding how these "proofs" were made ! That whole computerised-CNC-machined deal is such a sweet invention . First time I saw a product made in that fashion , I couldn't believe it ! My cousin had some golf Putter 'alignment-shot' deals made from "CNC-Printed" plastic . I had to ask him repeatedly to confirm that the tools were , indeed , "printed" ! Absolutely amazing stuff
jw78z28 Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Mark I'm with you on the tire thing I would love to have a tire with someones company logo even if it was a off brand name I would fork over a little more for it. Tires just don't look right without a name on the side wall. the big brand names sould look at it as a way to get the name out there with youth of tomorrow.
Fabrux Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 There are ways around having to license a brand name; one only needs to look at the DUNLCP tires in the Meng 1:32 Toyota Hilux kit. One thing I was curious about with Moebius models: is there any rhyme or reason behind the colour of the plastic? Revell kits are all white these days, Round2 seems to be moving away from that awful grey stuff to white, and the Moebius kits are some sort of brown/grey colour (my colours aren't the best).
1930fordpickup Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 I would think the color has to with cost .
Edsel-Dan Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 I believe the color of these is due to material used in the CnC mill to Cut the parts!
mk11 Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 I know this is all pre-production, but the 1969 grille should have all the openings the same width, not narrower outside than toward the center. I will be purchasing many of these kits, I already have my Moebius fund started. You're actually thinking of the '67 grill, Tom, with all bars having the same spacing. Check out this grill reference...http://fordification.com/tech/67-72ID_01.htm mike
Dave Metzner Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 When it comes to our choice of injected plastic color - gray is a neutral color - the operating assumption is that these kits will be painted. White makes it difficult to see any small imperfections that the builder may want to deal with while gray does that less. We are not foolish enough to believe that every piece of every kit will be perfect so we've tried to choose a neutral color that does not make imperfections too hard to see. Basic neutral colors have no impact on molding costs. We can shoot the kits in white, gray, tan, light blue - makes no cost difference. Unless someone can present a strong case for white plastic, my inclination is to stay with the gray. The mock-ups are gray because they have a nice coat of gray primer - the color of the raw material is a light cream / tan..
Rob Hall Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 You're actually thinking of the '67 grill, Tom, with all bars having the same spacing. Check out this grill reference...http://fordification.com/tech/67-72ID_01.htm mike The '69 looks the same as the '67 in the pics there except the middle horizontal bar is thicker. One thing I noticed on the tooling mock up pics is the grille on the '69 seems be rounded vertically and bulge out, while the 1:1 seems flatter..
mk11 Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 The more I look at those mock-up pics, Dave, the more impressed I get. Your carvers have done a fantastic job! mike
Repstock Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 You're actually thinking of the '67 grill, Tom, with all bars having the same spacing. Check out this grill reference...http://fordification.com/tech/67-72ID_01.htm mike I meant vertical rows, not horizontal ones. Your link does a good job of showing exactly what I meant about the '69 grille.
Dave Metzner Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 The days of hand made mock-ups are gone. These are generated from 3D files on CNC machines.. Dave
mk11 Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 Yeah, I know. I meant that figuratively; what comes out is only as good as what was put in... mike
Erik Smith Posted April 1, 2013 Posted April 1, 2013 That 300 6 cylinder will be a big draw for me. That will be a basis for a lot of conversions. A true work horse o an engine.
Chris guthro Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 Them 300s are tough as nails! Had one in a 93 f150 xl 5 speed with a levelling kit and 33x12.5 hankkook tires! It was revving high all the time but took every mud hole i trough at it
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