Greg Myers Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 In todays Hemmings news : http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/07/16/vintage-nascar-racers-to-appear-at-concours-delegance-of-america/?refer=news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 You're absolutely right. A lot of that stuff was painted with fleet enamel to get a tough finish with an OK gloss without a lot of buffing, etc. The cars lived hard and got repainted frequently, and most of them never ever had a gloss like that (though a few drag cars actually did look that slick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown03SVT Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Though it looks great, it's over restored. That happens quite frequently with any restoration. Pretty sure all the jewelery like finished muscle cars you see on the T.V. auctions never looked that good new. I suppose that why survivor cars have become so popular. They are only original once they say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Also the stance looks more modern. Did they get the cars that low in "the day"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Also the stance looks more modern. Did they get the cars that low in "the day"? Yes. There were a lot of modifications to the chassis, suspension, even to the bodywork (within limits, of course) all in the name of better handling and higher speeds. Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbert Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Didn't we just get done arguing about shiny race cars??? I like race cars. In particular, I like shiny race cars. If I were to get my hands on an actual NASCAR prepped wing car and spend tens to hundreds of thousands piecing it back together, I'd darn sure make it shiny too. Unless it was a complete car, completely original as raced condition with some historical significance, I would make it shine. Edited July 16, 2013 by kalbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbert Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Also the stance looks more modern. Did they get the cars that low in "the day"? You bet they did. They'd all but drag the frame on the ground if rules would allow it. Particularly the wing cars, purpose built to push the rule book as far as it would go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown03SVT Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Didn't we just get done arguing about shiny race cars??? I like race cars. In particular, I like shiny race cars. If I were to get my hands on an actual NASCAR prepped wing car and spend tens to hundreds of thousands piecing it back together, I'd darn sure make it shiny too. Unless it was a complete car, completely original as raced condition with some historical significance, I would make it shine. fwiw, no arguement here... I enjoy them in whatever state be it shiney and super restored or as raced, heck even rusty as found in a barn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Didn't we just get done arguing about shiny race cars??? I like race cars. In particular, I like shiny race cars. If I were to get my hands on an actual NASCAR prepped wing car and spend tens to hundreds of thousands piecing it back together, I'd darn sure make it shiny too. Unless it was a complete car, completely original as raced condition with some historical significance, I would make it shine. I bet we did. We must really like 'em. This ain't the same article now is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I didn't read the article attached BUT, I know the owner of the bird pictured and although I'm not 100% certain, I am pretty sure the car in question is NOT restored. Which would put the paint sometime in the 1970-1973 time frame. I do know the car has had some maint work done but don't think any of it was exterior paint related. I believe it's mostly been tires / brake / chassis / driveline maint / upkeep in the name of safety and reliability only. Current owner bought the car from the flipper that bought it directly from Ramo Stot .( aka original owner/driver) Ramo held on to the car, and instead of reskining it to a more modern body style as rules mandated back then . It remained in it's last race configuration. Which I believe was last raced in the early to mid 70's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Most race teams have "duplicate" show cars that they take to different venues around the country that are far more detailed and finished than what actually appears in a race. I shot a few TV commercials with Dale Earnhardt and a #3 show car, which was much more finished than anything he ever raced. Same with Kyle Petty and his cars. Edited July 16, 2013 by sjordan2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I think the reason some of the old cars look better than the current racers is that they were actually painted instead of covered with vinyl stickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Speaking of vintage race cars... More pics here... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?s=13d7c5f9dc8cd6edd4d96df4d9377a86&t=816884&highlight=miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown03SVT Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Pretty sure that is not as raced ray, but it sure is BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH sexy nicely finished and polished like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) I couldn't say. There's some discussion on the HAMB about whether it's over-restored or not. Some feel rather strongly that Miller had such a thing for detail that his cars did race with that level of detail & finish. All the chrome & polish aside, I'm in awe of the beauty of the design & precision of the machine work. Edited July 17, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Mmmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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