Joe Handley Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 The people who have been spam calling my cell phone, claiming to be with Blue Cross Blue Shield for health insurance, or the Warranty Department trying to sell me an extended warranty for my 200, all while I'm working, usually helping a customer at that time on top of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 The people who have been spam calling my cell phone, claiming to be with Blue Cross Blue Shield for health insurance, or the Warranty Department trying to sell me an extended warranty for my 200, all while I'm working, usually helping a customer at that time on top of it! Have you ever considered turning off the phone while you're working? There's no law that says you have to be accessible to everyone all the time. If it's an emergency, they can call you at your store's number. Just an idea... Why is everyone such a slave to their darn cell phone? When did we pass a law that says we must make ourselves available 24-7-365 to everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Have you ever considered turning off the phone while you're working? There's no law that says you have to be accessible to everyone all the time. If it's an emergency, they can call you at your store's number. Just an idea... Wow..that's a thought. I do turn off the ringer on my cells occasionally when I don't want to be bothered. When I'm working, my coworkers might call me on the phone but are more likely to ping me on HipChat (corporate chat software) first...but clients often call me directly on my work cell instead of emailing or opening a ticket. I occasionally get spam calls on my cells--I ignore any call that doesn't have caller id or from an area code I don't recognize. Edited July 10, 2014 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Mark, you mentioned incorporating retirees into the workforce? If a person retires, why would he possibly want to be incorporated into the workforce? I always thought that after many years of hard work, that retirement was a goal for one to achieve so they don't have to work anymore, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Have you ever considered turning off the phone while you're working? There's no law that says you have to be accessible to everyone all the time. If it's an emergency, they can call you at your store's number. Just an idea... Why is everyone such a slave to their darn cell phone? When did we pass a law that says we must make ourselves available 24-7-365 to everyone? I do use the S-Health app's pedometer while on the clock, doesn't work so good with the phone turned off. Honestly, up until this nonsense started, that wasn't a problem. If they needed to get ahold of me, the store was usually called or they sent a text if it wasn't important. Otherwise if I used the phone, it was work related. Some of my friends that happen to also be customers will call or more likely text to see if we have something they need or want, or to send me a part number to order for them. I even will get texts asking for R/C related advice or tech info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Well... you're the one who said you were getting a bunch of unwanted calls. So turn off the dang phone and get a pedometer. Problem solved. If you insist on keeping the phone on all the time, then you can't really complain about getting calls, can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I do use the S-Health app's pedometer while on the clock, doesn't work so good with the phone turned off. You could always mute the phone, the pedometer app should still work with ringer muted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrass Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I'm with you Harry!!! by smart phone was starting to suck me In! Slave no more! Give me two cans a string a tree fort, and of course a model! And I would be a happy camper!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrass Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Wayne, I'm happy for you CONGATULATIONS!!!! I'm available to drive on Danno's day's off lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrass Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 People who cut in line at the returns area at my local big box building center! The whole line process they have is a joke anyway ( there is none) when I go to the area I try to make eye ball effort to see who is in front of me as to wait my turn. Two people took cuts I front of me today, when asked who's next they just bolted to the attendant without looking to see if maybe someone was before them. Seems basic manners are not in vogue anymore. I just let it go! The last thing I want to do is start my day in conflict with some who's time apparently is more valuable than mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Like I've said before that today people have the "hurray for me and FY "attitude and I notice it most often when they drive. Nobody cares 'bout anyone else anymore, not like in the 50's & 60's. This country has changed a lot, and not necessarily for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I am fortunate that I work for a great company that treats it's employees fair. One of the projects I am involved with at work, is to look at optional ways to continue inccorporating retiring employees in the workforce. Possibly paying them as seasonal, adhoc, or temp workers etc. This would help with adapting to a flexible workforce as well as the company acknowledging the importance/value of their employees knowledge and experience. It also contiues to show the companies commitment to it's employees long term by offering them work options in retirement if they so desire. In addition, my company has never laid anyone off or "downsized". I wished more companies were like that. I would have happier friends and family. Good for them! Extremely rare. I agree with you, Mark. I wish more companies were like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Mark, you mentioned incorporating retirees into the workforce? If a person retires, why would he possibly want to be incorporated into the workforce? I always thought that after many years of hard work, that retirement was a goal for one to achieve so they don't have to work anymore, no? Many people are forced into retirement before they want to be retired. Many people are too young to retire, but aren't given the choice (by corporate policies, etc.). Many retirements are not financially sufficient to buy goods and services and healthcare or pay mortgages and utilities in these times. And many people can no longer afford to retire because of the *toilet* economy (which was not anticipated when many retirement plans were planned). And, as the *toilet* economy continues to degenerate, a lot of those corporations are considering elimination of retiree benefits. The old model of 'work hard, retire, and no longer have to work' is long gone for most people. Edited July 10, 2014 by Danno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 MrsG was a well compensated casino executive until the economy crashed. She was "retired", as was her peer group, due to the budget cutting methods of new owners. Granted she has never returned to the work force and we do fine. Thing is here's a prime example of an experienced gaming professional who cannot be hired anywhere as no one currently can actually afford to pay her what her expertise commands. She had a great offer to be the VP of a Race/Sports Book at one of the "under construction" properties until the billionaire backer pulled his support. So now you have 25 years of experience retired and taking care of me. Poor woman. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Many people are forced into retirement before they want to be retired. Many people are too young to retire, but aren't given the choice (by corporate policies, etc.). Many retirements are not financially sufficient to buy goods and services and healthcare or pay mortgages and utilities in these times. And many people can no longer afford to retire because of the *toilet* economy (which was not anticipated when many retirement plans were planned). And, as the *toilet* economy continues to degenerate, a lot of those corporations are considering elimination of retiree benefits. The old model of 'work hard, retire, and no longer have to work' is long gone for most people. The employment landscape has changed entirely. I know a lot of modelers who worked state jobs who all retired in their late 50s in the past year or so because they had the correct number of years in, but feared that the terms would change if they waited since all entities are looking to cut costs and retirement benefits are an easy target. I know a lot of good management folks who have been out of work 2 and 3 years. They are too young to retire and collect social security, and most of them don't have pensions to depend on in the future. But they are living on their 401Ks and retirement savings now. I don't know what the future holds but it doesn't look all that bright for people who worked hard all their lives. Edited July 10, 2014 by Tom Geiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Cry me a river. I'm self-employed... have been since the late '80s. Yes, I know... it's my choice. But every time I hear someone crying about pensions and/or "early retirement," it's like nails on a chalkboard to me. Consider these facts: Since I'm self-employed, I have to pay into Social Security double what everyone else pays in. I have to pay my half (the half the employee pays) and the half the employer pays, since I am the employer of me! Will I get double the SS payments when (if?) I retire? Of course not. I have the "privilege" of paying double, but receiving just the "normal" SS payment–assuming SS is still in existence when (if) I retire! Unfair? You betcha! A few more "benefits" of being self employed... (keep in mind, I work as hard as anyone, the difference is that technically I'm my own employer)... no pension. Zero. No insurance coverage or any benefits of any kind. Zero. No paid holidays or vacation... if I take a day off, I lose any income I might have made that day. So excuse me if I'm not as sympathetic as others might be to stories of people who are forced into early retirement, yet still collect a pension for the rest of their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I never realized a person in your position would have to pay into SS twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I retired when I did as I felt it was time to go. I have never paid into Social Security and do not now. My pension comes from the St Louis Police Pension System, the system that I, and all other St Louis Police Officers since 1958, have paid into. I receive retiree health benefits but they are minimal. My previous injuries are taken care of by this plan as they were incurred in the line of duty. My wife receives no pension, zero, zip, nada, but does have a decent 401k that we have yet to touch. Her only health benefits come from my current State of Nevada plan as my spouse. I too never realized someone self employed had to pay into SS twice. Truthfully I took the job I have now as I needed better health bennies and these guys were more than willing to put me to work. That and I I could not sit still........... G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelbuilder Mark Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Mark, you mentioned incorporating retirees into the workforce? If a person retires, why would he possibly want to be incorporated into the workforce? I always thought that after many years of hard work, that retirement was a goal for one to achieve so they don't have to work anymore, no? Studies show that many people that retire still plan on working to "some extent". In a 2012 Transamerica Retirement Survey for example, it actually found that 61% of folks in their fifties and sixties intend to work in some capacity in retirement. The reason varies of course from case to case. For some it is purely a financial reason as they still need some income and would have opted for partial retirement if their company offered it. And of course some are living longer than their retirement plans accounted for. According to the International Social Security Project 2010 Analysis, “time in retirement increased from about 13 years in 1965 to more than 18 years in 2003. The AARP as of 2011 foudn that 11% of baby boomers planned to work to "stay busy and feel a sense of community" and may be the only social outlet some of them will have. Some will work for health reasons. When not able, many people lose the necessary sense of purpose offered by working or social involvement, and their health may suffer for it. Think of the people you know who retired, sat on their bottom, gained weight, blood preasure went up, heart attack etc. This is cetainly not for everyone. Peole that have active lives away from work, or volunteer, or have hobbies that keep them active, if they are financially prepared, are not likely to want to work at all at a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelbuilder Mark Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 As for the phone access... When I get home at night, I leave my phone either in my car, or on a shelf at my back door, turned off. If it is an emergency, or you know me and need me, you can call my wife's phone, or see if I am online. On weekends, I may not touch my phone at all. Througout the day, no matter where I am or what I am doing, if I do not know who it is calling, it can go to VM and I usually only answer if I know who is calling. If it is important, you will leave me a msg. Oh, I almost never have the volume on at all. My wife does not like that tho.. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Mark, I still do work during my retirement around the house and I thank God that I'm still able to do so. As far as staying busy, people have had years before their retirement to figure that out, unless all they did was go to work and watch TV. If people had outside interest while they were working like hobbies and or sports, they would have even more time to enjoy these things when they retire. Retired people with little or no interest in sports/hobbies would sometimes find the need to find a part time job to keep themselves busy. I've been very lucky during my retirement, and sometimes too busy to the point where I've joked about getting a part-time job just so I could get some rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project510 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 What is really irking me today is I the fact that it is so dang hard to find a decent Fire Truck kit. I want to build one for a little friend of mine and I cant believe the only ones I am finding are priced way to high to build fr a 5 year old who will more than likely destroy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 James I know someone produced a 1/32 scale kit. I want to say Revell. I believe it's a glorified snap kit, so if you find one it should work. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartman Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Everything..........just one of those days.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 What is really irking me today is I the fact that it is so dang hard to find a decent Fire Truck kit. I want to build one for a little friend of mine and I cant believe the only ones I am finding are priced way to high to build fr a 5 year old who will more than likely destroy it! Maybe it would be better to get him a steel toy fire truck instead. At least he could play with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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