Greg Myers Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) California thinking of dropping "Black Plate" program, not enough interest. http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/01/23/california-black-plate-program-still-at-least-1780-orders-short-of-implementation/?refer=news Seems like a real potential for revenue for a state on the down and outs. Take what you can get. I'm sure once the word gets out more will take part. Brings up the question, does your state have a licence plate program for older vehicles ? As I understand it, California had a program ( one of the first I believe) allowing "year of Manufacture". , basically you could find old plates in good condition of the same year as your vehicle and register them to use on your older vehicle as long as the number/letter combination didn't coincide with anything currently in use. They have this program here in Arizona. Edited January 24, 2014 by Greg Myers
Matt T. Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) New York offers it too. I have a 1964 "World's Fair" plate on my '64 F100 now. Niiiiice Charger! Edited January 24, 2014 by Matt T.
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 "...basically you could find old plates in good condition of the same year as your vehicle and register them to use on your older vehicle as long as the number/letter combination didn't coincide with anything currently in use." Ga. has something similar.
Tony T Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Ontario Canada has "Year of Manufacture" program. There was annual plates until 1973. Requires two plates and they must be sent in for verification and approval. Nice charge I believe of $225 to go with it for the Govt't coffers.
Baugher Garage Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Kansas does the "model year" program too. Had an original 1961 plate on my Ford truck and one on the Comet. As long as the plate # isn't in circulation, you're good to go. Just an extra form to fill out at registration.
Scalper Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Ontario Canada has "Year of Manufacture" program. There was annual plates until 1973. Requires two plates and they must be sent in for verification and approval. Nice charge I believe of $225 to go with it for the Govt't coffers. "je me souviens" I think was on the old ontario plates ...
kennb Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Wisconsin has a collector plate...it is blue with white lettering,,,,,it is issued to the person and not the car......it does not require renewal..........
RancheroSteve Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I had thought about getting black plates for my '63 Ranchero at one point, but couldn't quite see spending the money folks were asking for them.
lordairgtar Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Wisconsin has a collector plate...it is blue with white lettering,,,,,it is issued to the person and not the car......it does not require renewal.......... Our collector plates are blue with red lettering. They are actually issued to the car, but if you have multiple cars you get the same number tag with a letter suffix or prefix. If you wish, you can get the white one for your regular car. Registration period Non-expiring Fee One-time $50 collector vehicle issuance fee plus twice the annual registration fee for the vehicle type being registered. Number of plates Two (one for a motorcycle/moped) Plates remain with Seller Personalized available? No. A collector number is assigned as the plate number. Subsequent collector vehicles owned by the customer receive the sample plate number with an alpha suffix or prefix. Plate color Red characters on a light blue background Statutory reference s.341.266 DMV inquiry COL “TIME” system inquiry CL and we have antique plates Current design issued in 1980 Registration period Non-expiring Fee $5 Number of plates Two (one for motorcycle) Plates remain with Seller Personalized available? No Plate color Green characters on a gold background Statutory reference s.341.265 DMV inquiry ANT “TIME” system inquiry AQ And this is for hot rods and other home built types Hobbyist Available for reconstructed or street modified motor vehicles 20 years or older, for replica vehicles 20 model years or older or for homemade vehicles. Must have another vehicle currently registered. Cannot be operated during the month of January without a temporary plate. Motorcycle version available. See also Antique and Collector. More... First issued in 1976 Registration period Non-expiring Fee One-time $50 hobbyist issuance fee plus twice the annual registration fee for the vehicle type being registered. Number of plates Two Plates remain with Seller Personalized available? No Plate color Yellow characters on a green background Statutory reference s.341.14(4r), s.341.27(1), s.341.268 DMV inquiry HOB “TIME” system inquiry PE
Force Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) As far as I know you have been able to register your older car with an older license plate not belonging to that car originally in California for a long time. Those 1956 yellow plates and 1963 black plates, and plates even older than that, are quite expensive at swap meets in SoCal if they are checked valid and possible to use...I know, I have tried to get some older plates when I have been over there but the valid plate sets have been way out of my price range, as I only can use them on my garage wall here in Sweden I don't want to pay that much for them and I have only bought some singles and plate sets not possible to use anymore. Edited January 25, 2014 by Force
RancheroSteve Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Yes, Hakan - that's the program I was referring to - buying old plates of the correct vintage and putting them on your vehicle. I've seen them at swapmeets; noticed there are a bunch on EBay now, of course.
Force Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) If you read the Hemmings article it says that this program started 2013...and as far as I know from what I've heard the times I've been i California (98, 03, 06. 09, 11, and 12) you could register an old car on old vintage plates long before that...and not just in California, more States has that possibillity, Virginia is one. If you go deeper in the article and read some of the links to other related articles you'll find this text: "The Legacy License Plate Program would create new license plates in the familiar vintage color schemes, though the new plates would most likely be required to use reflective finishes, along with other minor deviations from the originals to accommodate current state regulations. The new plates would also be available for vehicles of any model year, unlike the state’s Year of Manufacture program, which enables owners of classic vehicles to use vintage plates from the appropriate time period." So as far as I understand it this program is for NEW plates made in old styles and has nothing to do with the possibillity to register an older car on old vintage plates, you could do that long before this program started and there are some who makes a living on buying, restoring and selling old vintage plates for that purpose. The thing with this program is maybe to make it cheaper and easier to get an older style license plate on your classic car, but as you still can find old original vintage plates at swap meets and such, and register old cars on them, the demand for the "new" old style plates is maybe not that high...not right now anyway. Edited January 26, 2014 by Force
Dave Van Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Here in West Virginia we have classic car tags. They are good for 10 years. You can run them on your car or just carry them in it. You can then use a WV tag from the year your car was made. I have a 73 WV tag for my Javelin. Classic cars do not require inspections but have some limits on the amount you drive them. But they are not real tough on the limits......they just don't want to see you driving your Classic tagged car everyday all year.....which I wouldn't anyway!
vypurr59 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 In Ohio, you have to obtain a Historical Vehicle plate, then you may have your Ohio year specific plate registered to that vehicle.
lordairgtar Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Here in West Virginia we have classic car tags. They are good for 10 years. You can run them on your car or just carry them in it. You can then use a WV tag from the year your car was made. I have a 73 WV tag for my Javelin. Classic cars do not require inspections but have some limits on the amount you drive them. But they are not real tough on the limits......they just don't want to see you driving your Classic tagged car everyday all year.....which I wouldn't anyway! What kind of wheels are those? I had similar on my 83 Mercury Marquis Brougham. They were made by Mangel from Brazil. Edited January 26, 2014 by lordairgtar
carrucha Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 It's a nice alternative to vintage car owners. It's weird seeing late model cars with vintage looking CA plates. I sometimes seen personalized CA blue plates on late model cars. These owners transferred the personalized plates that they got in the 1980's to their new late model car. I was considering getting the black CA plates for my 2014 Impala but it would seen weird to me. I will just go with the "period correct" white CA plates issued to my car in 2013.
1972coronet Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 "The Legacy License Plate Program would create new license plates in the familiar vintage color schemes, though the new plates would most likely be required to use reflective finishes, along with other minor deviations from the originals to accommodate current state regulations. The new plates would also be available for vehicles of any model year, unlike the state’s Year of Manufacture program, which enables owners of classic vehicles to use vintage plates from the appropriate time period." Hakan "Force" ( I apologise for not being able to accommodate the proper accent over the first "a" in your name , due to the limitations of my computer's tools / programs ) -- You are right on with your assessment of the license plate programme . I had forgotten about the "in absentia" classic-stylled plates ; I had initially dismissed them because of the requisite reflective properties of the paint , and that these plates would be available to any-one for any vehicle . I would have paid more attention to these neuvaux plates if they were available only for vintage vehicles ; and further , if the state would "tow-the-line" in making certain that the plates' alpha-numeric composition follows the original layout ( e.g. , a plate for a 1970 passenger car would be , say , "026 BZM"**). Never-the-less , I am again pleased with the availability of real , mostly-authentic , classic license plates for our classic vehicles :) . NOTE : "**" = That plate's characters are from a real car : a former coworker's 1970 Dart Swinger 340 . He is the car's original owner .
Dave Van Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 What kind of wheels are those? I had similar on my 83 Mercury Marquis Brougham. They were made by Mangel from Brazil. I can't say right now.......the brand is on the center cap....but I am drawing a blank right now.....and I ain't going out to the barn tonight to find out!!! But I will.....Thx
Force Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) As far as I understood the article when I read it the "Black Plate Program" is for classic cars only. But as I said, there are lots of valid usable old license plates available at several places as lots of classic cars has been exported from California and other dessert states over the years...to for example Sweden amongst other nations...I have imported a classic car from California myself about 10 years ago...so the demand for newly made old style plates is maybe not that high right now. 1972Coronet: Try to hold down the Alt key and type 134 on your number pad on your keyboard and let go of the Alt key and you'll get the letter å, if you do the same but instead type 143 you get the capital letter Å instead, these letters are used in the Swedish laguage and sounds a little like the letter o . Edited January 27, 2014 by Force
Tony T Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 "je me souviens" I think was on the old ontario plates ... That is Quebec..."YOURS TO DISCOVER" on the ON plate.
1972coronet Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 1972Coronet: Try to hold down the Alt key and type 134 on your number pad on your keyboard and let go of the Alt key and you'll get the letter å, if you do the same but instead type 143 you get the capital letter Å instead, these letters are used in the Swedish laguage and sounds a little like the letter o . å Å It worked !!! How cool is that ?!? If you have any other unknown-to-me accent / characters secrets , please share them with me via PM (or , if Casey , et al. , feel it would be appropriate , then please share them with all of us ) Thanks !
KevinMoparFord Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Ohio has it, changed slightly that now the plates expire in 40 years, used to not expire. You can register the year of manufacture plate at the same time, but you have to carry the black and white historic plates and both registrations at all times. Very reasonable that it was less than $50.
Tom Geiger Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 "je me souviens" I think was on the old ontario plates ... A lot of Canadians vacation at the New Jersey shore so we'd see that on a lot of cars. We'd translate it as "Bring Me Souvenirs"! There's an old joke, How do you know it's summer in New Jersey? You get Canadian coins in your change!
Fabrux Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Here in NB plates are issued to the car rather than the owner. You see many different plates on many different vehicles but as a general rule (and I haven't figured out a way around this yet) you can't use a plate older than the vehicle. In 1992 a new plate design/numbering system was introduced and ALL vehicles had to switch to this new plate. The design has been updated periodically since then, however. We now have antique plates for vehicles older than 25 years that have restrictions on how much you can drive them and we also have seasonal plates that are valid from May to October. The attraction for the seasonal plates is that you only need to display the rear plate (NB is a front plate province).
ZTony8 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Michigan has specific antique car plates OR you can find an old plate and use it on your antique.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now