Codi Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Love the fact that you spelled out the sequence of assembly and just a few of the considerations you have to make before finishing the build. It's a great testament to the planning that goes into a build when it's not done "OOB". Like you Cato, I write everything down now and take pictures when doing mock-ups to help speed up final assembly and avoid mistakes. I'm smiling as I write this because your post just says it all so eloquently. I like what you're doing with the leather for the seats too of course!!! Cheers, tim
Belugawrx Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 I hear that,..The amount of times I dry fit projects,...? but I usually don't get caught at the end,...oops, I hope I didn't just Jinx myself Anywho,.. are bolt heads allowed to show ,..looking up at the floor pan ? just thinkin' Cheers Cato
Cato Posted February 20, 2016 Author Posted February 20, 2016 Tim and Bruce, I really appreciate your support, questions and ideas. Seems like discussion is dying in this section and you guys are like oxygen. Maybe I'm going on too long with this and guys get bored.... Negative Bruce; no screws, bolts, magnets (although considered) glue, levitation or chewing gum to hang down or glop on. I've just completed the parts to install the seats and it looks like it will work - if I'm lucky. Remember, I'm making this stuff up as I go along. A little more suspense until I test it...
Belugawrx Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Speed is not a factor here CatoIf it was, I wouldn't be here
Codi Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Cato, keep building and keep posting.................great builds like yours take time because there is simply so much more TO SHARE. I personally find your posts to be so educational that I can't imagine that any builder that checks it out cannot possibly learn something. I don't know of any builder that doesn't want to get better at it while they're having fun along the way. You're an inspiration to us all. Cheers, Tim
Cato Posted February 21, 2016 Author Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) It worked... Here's how. First, all the parts were 'kitted'. Styrene; 1/8 x 1/4 base sides, .040 base top (actually a shim to get the desired .290 height), 1/16 ID tubing. 1/8 tube bases with .015 shim to clear carpet height. Brass; 1/16 OD rod. CA and Plastruct cement. The once-glorious first carpet now sacrificed for test duty. It served a good purpose. The principle; make a 'plug in' seat by attaching tubes to floor pan styrene and brass 'prongs' to seat base. Side base onto floor FROM THE SIDE, using the nap of the carpet to provide enough friction to hold the base securely when in place but allow easy removal. It is critical to get accurate measurements for where you want the seat to be located and repeatable measurements for each component which you're making four of each of. The tubes attached to the brass prongs act as stops so the seat arrives at the correct side-to-side location every time. They also stiffen and secure the brass rods to the base frame: How it looks in place before the top is attached to the base. Base rests neatly on carpet. The current finished carpet will be cut more neatly and closer to the tubes. Again, I'm going to cut a perfectly good finished part after the fact. Not good and my luck will run out at some point. The arrows on base point forward (toward dash) but seat installs from side. This allows easy installation or removal after doors on and also because there's not enough forward or aft clearance in the cabin. Should repairs ever be needed, the whole cabin including floor can be unbolted at any time. No ripping seat glued to carpet or turning entire model upside down to access screws or bolts: Seat cushion on base and snug on carpet. The base will be covered with carpet material, the cushion gray leather. Still to come, attaching seat back cushion and shell with pivot to tip forward. All edges of base and cushions will be rounded off before covering. Now the only trick is to make an exact duplicate for the passenger seat and get it in the correct spot. I'm sure NONE of you are rushing to get these dimensions and techniques down for your Pochers; waaay to much work and fiddly stuff. But if it spawns an idea you can use on any scale you're building, I'm pleased: Edited February 21, 2016 by Cato
bobthehobbyguy Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Great solution for the seats. Keep up the good work.
Zoom Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Always nice to see how you solve your ideas/constructions.
Cato Posted February 25, 2016 Author Posted February 25, 2016 Removing resin, adding carpet and kid skin... From the previous post you can clearly see the hard-edged stock shape of the Benz seat cushion. That wouldn't do in my 'lived-in' Roller. So some reshaping was in order. But first the seat bases got a nice cover with carpet and binding: Now the dirty business of shaping. Befores and afters evident: At home in the cabin. Fronts seats now equal to rear bench in comfy style. Leather being added and hair removed from scalp as you read this...
Zoom Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 It looks great, and should be very comfortable with some leather on
Cato Posted February 26, 2016 Author Posted February 26, 2016 OK - a tiny peek... Only 3 more cushions and 2 seat backs to go....(groan). The big effort was to get front and rear to match so the slightly rumpled,aged look continues...
sjordan2 Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 One of the best-looking seat finishes I've seen. Now make the cigar holders open and close with tiny cigars inside.
LaughingIndian Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) It might be a little more "interesting" if there were more wear on the back seats than the front ... if ya know what I mean Edited February 28, 2016 by LaughingIndian
MoparWoman Jamie Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 I been following this build for a while, and I love the detail that your doing on it. Keep up the great work man!
Modelbuilder Mark Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 very nice. Always a pleasure to see the progress.
Cato Posted February 28, 2016 Author Posted February 28, 2016 Seats look great! Thanks guys. Hard at work in the leather factory today! Great to see you drop in Dirty Harry. How about you throw some of your Pochers back up here? It's lonely here in Pocher land!
Eric Macleod Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Cato, I certainly do not think that the thread has gone too long. I simply cannot find enough ways to express my amazement. I learn something new with every post. Keep building and posting.
Harry P. Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Thanks guys. Hard at work in the leather factory today! Great to see you drop in Dirty Harry. How about you throw some of your Pochers back up here? It's lonely here in Pocher land! I'm taking a temporary break from building. Just don't have the urge right now. But it'll come back... it always does. And besides... I have my Pocher woody RR and Bugatti to finish up. I paid too much for those kits to just abandon them. I'll get back in the saddle... but for now I'm enjoying not building, as weird as that may sound.
Cato Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Be seated!.... Finally got (most of ) the leather in place. Shown with a door panel to help recall what the combination will look like. Everything is just propped in place so the seat pleats will align better and the door panel will be flat. The back of the shell requires covering and the pivoting brackets will be bolted in - the holes are already drilled. The seats are all the same color and patina; it's just dark in the back of the cabin. All the major interior elements are all ready now except the headliner. The heavy lifting is still to come; building the door panels and latch system (not using Pocher's) and alignment of the four hood panels. The final push will be paint (with the arrival of good weather) and the dreaded roof fabric covering. Edited March 1, 2016 by Cato
Codi Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 WOW Cato. They're sweet!!! You must be pleased how they turned out, at least you should be. cheers, tim
sjordan2 Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 WOW Cato. They're sweet!!! You must be pleased how they turned out, at least you should be. cheers, timYup.
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