highway Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I buy the kits Revell makes in America. I also bought the new MPC/Round2 FordVan 1/20 kit . Then you don't buy new kits then! Revell may BOX some of them in America, but the bags INSIDE come from CHINA!! I'm sure that the same implies to the Round 2 van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Then you don't buy new kits then! Revell may BOX some of them in America, but the bags INSIDE come from CHINA!! I'm sure that the same implies to the Round 2 van. Actually some of the older and/or oddball tooling (of which a 1/20 van fits into both) were never shipped overseas. An example from Revell would be the recently reissued Nissan Pick-Up. That kit hadn't been run since the merger and being a SnapTite kit with "limited appeal" the tooling was never shipped to China. It says "Molded in the USA" right on the box. Granted the box was made in China and the decals in Italy, but that's the Global Supply Chain. Edited February 12, 2015 by niteowl7710 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpier Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 i hope this doesn't delay the '29 ford hot-rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Dagger Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Then you don't buy new kits then! Revell may BOX some of them in America, but the bags INSIDE come from CHINA!! I'm sure that the same implies to the Round 2 van. So you are saying that Revell and Round 2 are flat out lying ?i have not been to these factories or interviewed employes that work there but I turst what they print on the box , mostly because you can tell by the look of the plastic . Revell kits made here are of a stiffer plastic and more pure white . The china ones are softer plastic and more milky white . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I work for an auto parts company that relies on parts being shipped in from the Pacific Rim and this work slowdown has had an effect on our business big time. If this goes on much longer, I can say goodbye to another good sales year as the recovery time is a minimum of 3-6 months. ... not to mention the brilliant idea of outsourcing the billing operation to India . That hasn't caused any problems with customers' accounts at all ! ( i hope that the college kid with manicured hands that thought up that scheme got a huge bonus ! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 As for the container ships waiting at sea to be unloaded with goods, I'm in FAVOR of the Longshoreman's strike as the members need to fight for wages and benefits to provide for their families. The CEO's are getting paid WAY to much to walk around in expensive suits and look good, while the workers are bustin' their hump everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Actually some of the older and/or oddball tooling (of which a 1/20 van fits into both) were never shipped overseas. An example from Revell would be the recently reissued Nissan Pick-Up. That kit hadn't been run since the merger and being a SnapTite kit with "limited appeal" the tooling was never shipped to China. It says "Molded in the USA" right on the box. Granted the box was made in China and the decals in Italy, but that's the Global Supply Chain. Adding to this, take the newly issued 67 Camaro, on the box, "Made In China" now for curiosity , I grab a Round 2 kit, it was the Ford Phantom kit, and it say made in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 ( i hope that the college kid with manicured hands that thought up that scheme got a huge bonus ! ) Don't be dissing those of us with degrees that get the occasionally manipedi.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 As for the container ships waiting at sea to be unloaded with goods, I'm in FAVOR of the Longshoreman's strike as the members need to fight for wages and benefits to provide for their families. The CEO's are getting paid WAY to much to walk around in expensive suits and look good, while the workers are bustin' their hump everyday. Not saying that the workers aren't in need of good wages and benefits, but when they average nearly $150,000/year in wages, I'd like to think they are doing much better than some of us who make a fraction of that! The effects on our economy will be great, deep and wide if they were to strike, be careful what you wish for. The CEO's making a better living at the workers expense? Yep, they get that from our politicians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) So our economy had a good start on a turnaround with the lower gas prices. They are going up. Now add this to it. Yeah, "i hope this doesn't delay the '29 ford hot-rod." Edited February 14, 2015 by Greg Myers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I think some of the higher gas prices we're seeing in the Chicago area are related to a BP refinery strike, apparently they're seeking better pay, more staff, and safer working conditions at the Whiting, Indiana facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I think some of the higher gas prices we're seeing in the Chicago area are related to a BP refinery strike, apparently they're seeking better pay, more staff, and safer working conditions at the Whiting, Indiana facility. That and the price of a barrel of oil has climbed back up $10/barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Not getting into the debate, but loading and loading these containers definitely requires skill coordination, and your full attention 24/7. This is a high risk job for all who set foot inside the yard, but it's beautiful to watch all the action flow seamlessly together: http://youtu.be/isIcqkYUHws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Cool video Casey. I have enough kit to last me at my pace a good while. Tamiya paint would be what I would need. Now there are so many other thing and jobs that will come into play. It is something that the Union and Port has to work out. I was a worker before my disability so I feel for the American worker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I wouldn't count on the '29 Ford kit anytime soon, and yes I have PLENTY to build until then. How 'bout you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Lucky for me, I FedEx over 95% of kits from Japan, but I do everything gets resolved soon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I'm curious as to the borderline paranoia that this little spat between the Union & Management is going to effect the availability of a kit there isn't even a release date on beyond "2Q". Considering the backlog of kits from the 4th and 1st quarter (which again has nothing to do with this problem) I wouldn't hold out hope that the '29 Ford was magically gonna drop out of the skies in April... Moreover someone is ALWAYS threatening a work shutdown at the Port of Long Beach and associated sites. If it's not the Longshoremen, it's the Union representing the Clerks, or it's the Port Drayage Drivers. The United States is in the unique position of having THREE coast lines with deep water ports. Stuff not yet on the water will be routed towards the East or Gulf Coasts, and the increased boat shipping costs will be offset by lower rail costs since those containers will not have to ride cross country to get to where 85% of the population resides. The truckers will lose money, the West Coast railroads (UP & BNSF) will lose money and in a week or two people are gonna force the two sides to be locked in an empty container until they deal with each other since above all principles, MONEY talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Supposedly , the model kits come through the Baltimore Port, and not through the West Coast Ports Edited February 21, 2015 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 James, best answer I've heard in a long time well thought out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Ho hummm, I've already got plenty of kits on hand, so when the new kits get here, they get here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Supposedly , the model kits come through the Baltimore Port, and not through the West Coast Ports So that's why they take so long to get to Phoenix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I'm curious as to the borderline paranoia that this little spat between the Union & Management is going to effect the availability of a kit there isn't even a release date on beyond "2Q". Considering the backlog of kits from the 4th and 1st quarter (which again has nothing to do with this problem) I wouldn't hold out hope that the '29 Ford was magically gonna drop out of the skies in April... Moreover someone is ALWAYS threatening a work shutdown at the Port of Long Beach and associated sites. If it's not the Longshoremen, it's the Union representing the Clerks, or it's the Port Drayage Drivers. The United States is in the unique position of having THREE coast lines with deep water ports. Stuff not yet on the water will be routed towards the East or Gulf Coasts, and the increased boat shipping costs will be offset by lower rail costs since those containers will not have to ride cross country to get to where 85% of the population resides. The truckers will lose money, the West Coast railroads (UP & BNSF) will lose money and in a week or two people are gonna force the two sides to be locked in an empty container until they deal with each other since above all principles, MONEY talks. Where is the like button for this, oh wait, here it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Supposedly this matter has been settled and it's back to work tomorrow for the longshoremen. The problem will be getting the backlog cleared up, which is rumored to take up to three months to do so. For some businesses, the damage is done and others it will just be a while before anything resembling "normal" returns. A lot of fruits and vegetables were lost due to this work slowdown and that is unfortunate as we will all pay the price at the grocery store. Not that I am a fan of Wal Mart but they, along with many retailers, have been impacted by a lack of goods. I had an interesting conversation with one of my suppliers who manufactures his brake pads here in the US. They have been swamped with orders from customers who normally purchase from China but are out of stock due to the strike. They have been running extra shifts but do realize it is a short term thing as once the Chinese product hits the shelves, they will have less demand. He also mentioned that this has impacted car production for ALL car manufacturers as they source from overseas (Pacific Rim) and utilize just in time shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 A lot of the car manufactures have been shipping parts by air , some have slowed down production or stopped productions for those vehicles that need parts from their mother countrys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I read in this morning's paper that things on the docks are pretty much straightened out and hopefully there'll be a flurry of activity and the ships will be unloaded and the 18 wheelers rollin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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