Mother, Jugs and Speed

[R A DEA]

Good morning all!

I have read this thread with great interest and can help with some photos. First a correction. George Barris had nothing to do with the two rigs Dean Jefferies built for the "Mother, Jugs & Speed" movie. The last two photos are supposedly of one of the two original ambulances used in the movie. In order to make it legal to drive on the street the front end had to be changed back to what  it was originally which is quite a shame as those duel quad headlights really helped to make the ambulance what it was.  I don't know if anyone will see this but if you do and need more photos I have a lot of them.

 

Edited July 12, 2016 by R A DEA
Remove one photo that was a duplicate, change font color and correct two spelling errors.

[disabled modeler]

I have wanted to build one of these for some time myself....COOL...!

[Ace-Garageguy]

... In order to make it legal to drive on the street the front end had to be changed back to what  it was originally which is quite a shame as those duel quad headlights really helped to make the ambulance what it was. 

Interesting, though I'm not personally aware of any state or Federal rule (yet) that makes it mandatory for a street-driven vehicle to retain it's OEM lighting...especially one so old and custom purpose-built.

The vehicle in the last shots is running Washington tags. Washington's headlight rule is as follows: " in order for a headlight to be legal for use in Washington State, it must conform to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) 108 requirements for headlights."

The rectangular multiple OEM-style glass headlamps the movie vehicle was equipped with meet FMVSS 108.

The rule specifically states: "S6.3   Equipment combinations. Two or more lamps, reflective devices, or items of associated equipment may be combined if the requirements for each lamp, reflective device, and item of associated equipment are met"

[gbdolfans]

Those pics of the ambulance are GREAT!!

I am waiting for the pics of Raquel.

[Snake45]

 

I am waiting for the pics of Raquel.

She and the Colt Python are the only things I remember from that movie.

[Joe Handley]

Interesting, though I'm not personally aware of any state or Federal rule (yet) that makes it mandatory for a street-driven vehicle to retain it's OEM lighting...especially one so old and custom purpose-built.

The vehicle in the last shots is running Washington tags. Washington's headlight rule is as follows: " in order for a headlight to be legal for use in Washington State, it must conform to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) 108 requirements for headlights."

The rectangular multiple OEM-style glass headlamps the movie vehicle was equipped with meet FMVSS 108.

The rule specifically states: "S6.3   Equipment combinations. Two or more lamps, reflective devices, or items of associated equipment may be combined if the requirements for each lamp, reflective device, and item of associated equipment are met"

Could there have been different ligjting laws that required the change have been made back after the movie was over so it could be used on the street when it was still new vs what would be allowed now?

[Ace-Garageguy]

Could there have been different ligjting laws that required the change have been made back after the movie was over so it could be used on the street when it was still new vs what would be allowed now?

Always the possibility an overzealous state official who hadn't actually READ the rules and understood them was the deciding factor.

I encounter that frequently, and always do my own homework and have a copy of the relevant rules handy before trying to deal with the government. P's them off mightily usually, but saves a lot of time and BS in the end.

The FMVSS rule that was in effect at the time the vehicle was first customized should be the rule to go by, to my way of thinking...and I don't have it readily available.

There IS this much later rule, which an anal-retentive power-mad office jockey could conceivably use to disallow multiple smaller-size but otherwise identical lighting...but though it would be enforcing the LETTER of the law, it wouldn't be in the SPIRIT of the rule which was written to try to ban aftermarket HID conversions. It seems the Fed lighting laws are still as antiquated as they were in earlier years when halogens with replaceable bulbs were industry standard in Europe, but not legal here.

 Under FMVSS 108 Section S7.7 (replacement light sources), each replaceable light source for headlamps must be designed to conform to the dimensions and electrical specifications for the headlamp source it is intended to replace. 

Edited July 12, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[Agent G]

The entire front fascia is stock. I'm wondering if the "current day" photos are of a clone. 

G

[Ace-Garageguy]

The entire front fascia is stock. I'm wondering if the "current day" photos are of a clone. 

G

That's what I'm thinking too. 

[Daddyfink]

Those pics of the ambulance are GREAT!!

I am waiting for the pics of Raquel.

Well, I am not waiting! 

 

[GLMFAA1]

I'd say it is a clone 1. Twinsonic light bar instead of Dietz gumball on roof. 2. Star of life on rear windows, Vid pics and article have no stars on rear windows (maybe omitted to do interior shots) 3. Blue cross on side along with the star of life. 4. Has anyone checked out the tags on the windshield? greg

[Agent G]

A little googling revealed the movie van was supposedly repurposed into an actual ambulance after filming. The AC didn't work with the Hollywood custom grill so the front end was put back to stock. 

http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-anyone-remember-the-movie-mother-jugs-and-speed

G

 

[Agent G]

I couldn't locate a photo I liked from the movie, so how about a generic pic of Raquel from the '70's

 

G

[Dave Van]

Great info/pics!!! thx

[GLMFAA1]

How about this one?

[Edsel-Dan]

I also have wanted to do this Rig!!

I see another point that says that the "Current Day" pics are of a Clone

Notice the Spotlights on the A pillars,...

in the Movie they ARE spotlights (Clear lenses) in ALL pics of Movie rigs!!

on the Current Day rig they are RED Lensed!!

[vintagedragcrazy]

Wonder how they came up with the name jugs ??

vince

[Daddyfink]

Wonder how they came up with the name jugs ??

vince

Good question

[Ace-Garageguy]

For some odd reason, I'm wanting Oreos.

[cobraman]

[Dave Van]

Good question

Bill Cosby???

[Joe Handley]

Bill Cosby???

You know, I was wondering how much Mother was like the real Cosby instead of the one we thought we knew.

[Daddyfink]

You know, I was wondering how much Mother was like the real Cosby instead of the one we thought we knew.

Come on! He just played a Paramedic! LOL! 

[R A DEA]

Barris had nothing to do with it. It's a Stoner Ambulance that was modified at the 20th Century studio shops.

The vans for "Mother, Jugs & Speed" were built by the late great Dean Jeffries at his shop in two weeks.

[R A DEA]

The entire front fascia is stock. I'm wondering if the "current day" photos are of a clone. 

G

This van is not a clone. There is a notable difference between the two vans. One of them has 8 lug wheels and the other one has 5 lug wheels. The van with the 8 lug wheels is privately owned by a fellow in Washington state. He did tell me the light bar was the first thing he took off of the van when he bought it and replaced with the single rotating "bubble gum" machine.