thanks again for all the feedback and advice...i belong to maybe 8 or 9 other modeling forums . i'm an eclectic builder, armor, sic fi, cars, figures. pretty much anything i can find at flea markets.. out of all the forums i visit ., i find this one has a great community spirit where everyone is willing to lend a hand and help others with questions and problems. thanks again gents, i'm very happy to be a part of this place.