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I see the difference, Duke..... this is good news, as I was expecting difficulty in obtaining the correct wheels for this build. Thanks for the heads up and photos. David

The road wheels that were fitted to the '68 Pontiac Parisienne 4 door that I owned in 1977 were called ' Rostyle ' wheels...... these were made under licence by Rubery Owen in England, and the design of these wheels originated in America, being manufactured in Lansing, Michigan by the Motor Wheel Corporation, and were known as ' Magnum 500 ' wheels. This style of road wheel was fitted to the Pontiac GTO, Ford Torino, Shelby Mustang, Plymouth Barracuda and AMC Javelin in the United States during the '60's and '70's, while in the UK they were fitted to MG, Rover, Jensen, Range Rover and also chrome-plated Rostyle wheels were fitted to the Ford Cortina 1600E that I used to own and drive. Sourcing some replica Magnum 500 wheels, or Rostyle wheels as we say, in 1:25 scale will not be easy and may not be possible. Would any MCM forum members have seen such wheels in 1:25 scale resin or styrene? Here is a photo.... the ones shown are 4 stud wheels, but of course they were 5 stud wheels on the Parisienne. David

That's great, Alan...... those two front grilles would be much appreciated, and I can give you my postal address details when you are ready. Don't worry too much about the rear bumper and tail lights, as the rear panel I have looks to be accurate anyway. The response from members on here, including yourself has been so helpful and I feel so lucky. Good luck with your search, but as I say, please don't go to any trouble over this. David

Oh I see, Buz..... well, my scratch building skills are not that great if I'm honest...... but thanks for the support and I will try to come up with something worthwhile. David

Sorry, Steve..... you must be getting the impression that I am almost ignoring your suggestions and advice. This is not the case, I assure you. Way back when I started looking at this build project about one year ago, I realised that finding a '68 Bonneville 4-door resin or styrene kit was not going to happen, which is why I put the idea to one side and did nothing for a year. Now that I am serious about building this car that I once owned in 1:1, I jumped at the chance to purchase a '67 Bonneville 4-door resin kit...... well aware that modifying the front end would not be easy. Then I get loads of good advice and suggestions on this forum, which is why I posted the topic of course. As you say, Steve some of the photos and products are very old and no longer available. Don't forget, as a UK model builder I am not familiar with the American market at all. I have no idea what is still available, and I cannot distinguish between what is way out of date, and what might come up on Ebay if I wait awhile. All I know is... the '67 front end is not right for my car, and the '68 or '69 is correct. When it becomes clear that a resin cast or styrene front grille and headlamps is not available at all, then I must scratch build it myself. David

Thanks, Phillip..... and I wish you a speedy recovery! I will keep this one of yours in mind, and I might be interested later. Exploring several options at the moment, so not sure where I'm going with it yet. Good of you to think about my project when you clearly have issues of your own to think about. Get well soon, Phillip. David

Thank you again, Duke.... and it is the horizontal twin headlights that are most important of course. The '67 has the vertical twin headlamps, while both the '68 and the '69 have the horizontal twin headlights. David

Sorry, Buz..... I don't understand your humour..... don't forget I am English and stupid and old ! David

Thanks, Duke..... that is the most useful information that I have received so far...... brilliant ! Providing I could get hold of a '68 Pontiac Bonneville 2-door, resin kit like the one in your photo, I could use the front grille for my '67 Bonneville 4-door and modify the front fenders myself. The car that I am building has to be a 4-door version, you see. This gives me new hope, so many thanks, Duke. David

Ah, those memories, John...... those were the days. David

I just found this tonight, and I was wondering if any MCM forum members might know where I could get hold of the promo model or the kit ? It is a '69 Pontiac Bonneville promo by MPC, and the kit appears to include an opening hood, engine and..... a canoe on the roof ! Although it is a 2 door, this model does seem to have a front end that I could make good use of. Please see following photos. David

Nice looking Mitsubishi Evo....... very sharp build, Scott........ well worth all your efforts. Good mix of Tamiya parts and Hobby Design detailing. David

Apologies, Stu..... it would appear that this Bonneville resin kit is indeed a 1:25 scale model, and not 1:24 as I thought. Thanks to Steve Milberry for checking the body measurements, I am now aware of this fact. David

Thank you, John...... and I shall post news of further progress. David

This is simply a quick single coat of Halfords Grey Primer, to cover the resin parts. I don't particularly like sanding the bare resin because of the dust issue. I do wear a mask, and also disposable latex gloves, but then the dust has to be moved from the workbench to a safe disposal area, so if that first sanding step is not absolutely necessary then I skip it. As you can probably see from these few photos, the quality of Pedro's casting tells me I don't need to sand it any smoother. Once the primer has dried completely, I can see where I need to start cutting and shaping, sanding and modifying. Any imperfections should also show up, but haven't seen many yet. David

Thanks, Peter..... and I do understand the SQL stuff, and how computer stuff works because I am a self employed Technical Support Engineer, working in IT for 39 years. There was the word ' f r o m ' in my text, but even when I removed the word I still got the 404 error. Even when I re-composed the text in a totally different way, leaving out any suspect words, still got the 404 error...... I do realise how difficult it is to track down these problems and much of my work involves doing exactly that. Luckily, I saw that a fellow member announced that when he posted only his photos, and not the text, he was able to post. This allowed me to post the photos first of all, and then add bits of text afterwards in order to build up to what I wanted to say in the first large text. Phew! David

Thanks, John..... and the whole discussion over 1:24 scale and 1:25 scale is always an interesting one. You are correct, they do usually suggest a donor kit for a resin body model that doesn't have many parts. In this case the resin kit is more or less complete, and if I was building a '67 Bonneville 4-door there would be no problem.... I just happen to have chosen to build a '68 Parisienne 4-door, and in doing so making my life difficult. David

Well, Steve..... you are absolutely correct. Just checked the same measurement as you did, and I get 22 cm precisely ! That has taken me by surprise, and has also made a mess of my maths too! David

Beautiful selection of Jaguars there, Peter....... especially my favourite, the MK V by Neo...... but they are all good. David

Looks pretty good for $5, Gary..... and in 1:24 too. David

Welcome back to the MCM forum, Bill..... this is where it all happens!

Hope you don't mind if I add something to this thread, Bill....... today I successfully posted a new topic in ' On the Workbench ', by only including the photos in my post, along with a short one line explanation to say why there is no text, due to the Page not Found - 404 Error issue. Reading my larger body of text that was causing the problem, I cannot see anything wrong with it actually, so mystified as to what is going on. Replies are now flowing on my new topic and I have got my points across that were contained in the original problematic text. David

Thanks for the response, Stu...... Yes, I know the Parisienne had body panels made in Canada, which were then mounted on a Chevrolet chassis, with Chevrolet engine and transmission and this translates to a 5" shorter wheelbase, with the car being 7" shorter overall than the Bonneville. I take your point about the Revell '65 or '66 Impala chassis, which as you say is ideal, but I am still wondering if the 0.2" difference ( or 5.3 mm ) is critical ? Apparently, the dashboard was also the '65 Chevy for the UK market ( RHD ). This resin kit that I received from the guy in Chicago, USA is definitely 1:24 scale and the MPC kit is indeed 1:25 scale, with a convertible body that can be cut down to a pickup...... apart from the chassis, interior tub and the exhaust system, the MPC kit is totally different and has no parts that could be used to build a Parisienne or Bonneville for '68, as it is 1970 version. Several members have suggested using the MPC kit, so you are not the only one, but I can't see how that kit could possibly help me. I am prepared to carry out quite a bit of scratch building with this one, because the car is very important to me. Good news today was finding a supplier in UK who can mix the correct paint colour, which is Pontiac Mayfair Maize, Buick Cameo Cream, Chevrolet Butternut Yellow ( all the same ). Your comments are much appreciated, Stu. David

Thanks, Steve...... and I did take notice of your PM, but so far I have not found anything in styrene, diecast or resin that comes close. No '68 Bonnevilles at all. The only thing I have seen, is that awful MPC 1:25 1970 Bonneville Convertible Pickup, which has the wrong front end completely, none of the panels match, it is 1970 and it's 1:25 scale, not 1:24. - The MPC kit does seem to have the same chassis, exhaust silencer system and interior tub as the resin cast '67 Bonneville that I now have. Looking on Ebay every day, there are no built-ups available to buy...... so this means that I have to go down the scratch building route, despite the extensive work needed. David

Thanks, Leslie....... and I also remember the Observer's Book of Cars...... happy days, eh? David