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Venom’s thread - not Gramps’ thread - to clarify …

And I’ll dedicate my build to Venom - see Gramps’ post on his Daytona Coupe build thread ….

OK - here’s my entry… the number 10 Cobra Daytona Coupe - chass 2287 - which is one of the crown jewels of the Simeone collection …. I’m using Harold Bradford’s kit…. Work began on the body last week …

PR : Sorry you can’t enter that cobra roadster in your current thread - it was entered - i think. - in the 63 race - but not ‘64 …. can i tempt you with one of the Daytona coupes ?

Gramps. gonna take you out of your comfort zone - gonna have to do a sports car with Sebring markings - AND - gonna forbid you from entering one of the GT40s - as you could make one of those in your sleep - mite I suggest the Cunningham 904 ?? Or maybe one of the privateer GTOs ?? ??

So a Sebring ‘64 Ford GT40 is an approved thread build! And it wouldnt’t even be a “phantom” - we know exactly what the 64 GT40 program livery was - and both cars still exist! the only question is what the assigned race numbers would have been - AND - we could have some fun with the driver assignments, right? How ‘bout Gurney and AJ in 102 ?

In the spring of ‘64 - Ford was testing - in England - GT40 chass 101 and 102 - they were commited to the 64 Lemans race - but they wanted a shakedown or dress rehearsal first - that turned out to be Nurburgring in late May - the cars were not quite ready to run Sebring- BUT THEY SURE WERE ENTERED!

Rich - and Ace - Scroll back down the Sports Cars site at the top of the page - keep scrolling - all the way down to the bottom of the entries that did not show up section … anything interesting there?

https://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Sebring-1964-03-21.html The Racing Sports Cars site is a nice way to research - and make your head spin, or explode ... this link has basic info and some good photos of the entire field ... The '64 Sebring race is 1 yr and 7 months short of it's 60th anniversary. And its nice to know that - short of another pandemic - the 2024 race will be a huge party - with 100,000 of your closest friends. [Insert drinking joke here] Here is a list - not quite complete - of the teams that contested the '64 race Shelby Cobra - open roadster and Daytona Coupe Chev Grand Sport Chev Sting Ray Ferrari 275 and 330 P factory teams - and NART entry Ferrari GTOs factory and private - and a stray LMB ... Porsche 356, 718 and 904 factory teams and private ... Alpine A110 and M63 Austin Healey Alfa Romeo private entries: Lotus, Volvo [yes, Volvo] , Triumph, MGB over 80 entries... Drivers? just check out the lineup on the website ... So here's the deal ... stop whatever you're doing ... let's do a group build tread - start now - completion deadline March 1, 2024. All of the entries have been kitted at one time or another - some are buried deep in your stash others are hard to get but still gettable ... plastic, resin, white metal, whatever 3D printed? oh hell yes .... - but see scale rules below ... so the idea is to develop a thread that has as many of the '64 race entries as possible ... The thread Rules ?? Don't worry,, I'll make them up as we go ... And I'm sure I'll change them as we go ... Initial Thread Rules [trumpets please] decide what you want to build - once you post your chosen entry - and start to post initial build pix - that entry is YOURS Can you build more than one entry? Oh yes - but choose an entry from a different team - example - if you choose to build the #003 Grand Sport and you want to tackle a second Corvette entrant - choose one of the private Sting Ray entries ... or the Bizzarini ... or the Lola Scale ?? 24th or 25th - only - no exceptions - for reasons that I will explain later ... Curbside? sure - why not ... does your chosen entry have to have been a finisher ??? of course not! Sebring's history is as famous for the cars that didn't finish as those that limped to the finish line... Wait - HERE'S THE FIRST RULES EXCEPTION - IF you choose the race winner - that would be the Mike Parkes Ferr 275P - you must build it with a detailed engine bay - sorry - my rules ... Got my entry all set - just started it - unless you post on this thread and beat me to it ...

ever been to Sebring ?? ???

https://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Sebring-1963-03-23.html dark red ... nice choice ...

Chico must still be hot - no end of summer here - not close - the Hawk kit that you mention is very rare - please feel free to post pix of the MB engine from the kit if you are able …

So I’ve made The pedals fr nickel silver bar and rod - with some Evergreen rod for the throttle pedal …. From studying the pictures - looks like the brake pedal sits on a rod that runs under the trans case - and the brake cables link to this rod on the right hand side of the trans case - the clutch pedal sits on a short shaft on the right hand side of the trans casing - and the throttle pedal is suspended from a short stalk that is bolted to a plate on the trans casing forward of the clutch … clear as mud - this will make sense then this is assembled …

The great H.A.M.B. s site featured a thread about ten years ago w great restoration shop photos of HCS Special - Miller’s first Indy winner - and an early series 122 rear dr car - the late Gary Doucette kitted this car in 25th sc …. The Miller Junior Eight Special is a second series 122 - with some changes - but the pedal and trans set up is the same - so this my best source of info for this project - my own photos did not quite capture the setup well….

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This an engine bay shot that was taken at the Brumos Collection last year - its the Junior Special - the collector pipe is visible behind the water pipe - the scale pipe diameter may be a bit less than 1 1/2 - but i’ll surrender some scale accuracy here to make room for the plug wires … what an engine bay !

The plug wires on both Millers feed thru a collector pipe that sits along side the left hand valve cover - I’ve made one from nickel silver tube that was held in a vise on the Sherline milling table …. Using .011 plug wire - i can feed 8 plug wires into the end ot the 1/16 thin wall tube with no problem - the holes in the collector pipe were drilled with an .015 bit …. They are spaced 0.120 apart on the pipe - about 3 scale inches …

The second photo compares what I’ve made with the 25th scale white metal casting in Etzel’s Miller 91 kit…. The last photo is the assembly on the Miller 122 Junior. Special …

The drive shaft was turned on the Sherline from alu - with a seperate housing or collar that covers the transmission end of the shaft

The brake drum housings are finned - the Revs’ 122 - the Boyle Special - has exposed wheels - no wheel covers - so I made drum housings for the rear wheels - cut from alu stock with a cutting tool that I made years ago the cuts a .012 slot into the metal….

so this is what you've been up to lately very nice ... ..

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There is 0 chance that there won’t be a re-make …. Only what will they call it ? can’t call it Back to the Future II - can you ?? 4AM - i may not fall back to sleep …. Anyway - this was truly weird - in a nice way …

Apology to Matra ! At 3 Am - Tyrrells turn in to Matras - anyway - we get to see - i think - that the chassis design for - tyrrell - was influenced somewhat by Matra - I’ll teach my brain to think when the sun comes up …