tim boyd

The "bumblebee" Scat Pack stripes on the convertible were not exactly to factory scale; Steve said he would investigate trying to get them more accurate on the Hardtop. We'll find out soon enough if this made the update...TB

Of the three box arts of the original kit (1963 Annual Kit...1964 reissue of the 1963 annual kit....1968 reissue with Camper Top), i actually prefer the Camper version best. The new kit has a much clearer/vibrant treatment vs. the original 1968 Camper "portrait" box art treatment. Personal Preference/To each his own, I guess. TB

...Spotlight Hobbies. David Dale got his over the weekend; I ordered two tonight. Pretty excited about these....TB .

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Thx Dan for catching the issue error...fingers did not type what the mind was thinking! I've corrected my post. The article started out as primarily domestic kits, but at Tim K's suggestion we added info on kits from overseas makers. Here's the text of the paragraph Dan mentioned above... But Wait, There’s More… I don’t have sample kits of the following to show you, but there are yet more SUV-themed kits for you to explore. These are mostly curbside style offerings rendered in 1/24th scale, and the quality and level of detail varies from kit to kit. Some were not actively offered in the North America hobby trade but they will be familiar to our overseas readers. Some of these kits include: Italeri Mercedes-Benz G230, Italeri (first generation) Range Rover, Hasegawa Suzuki Jimny, Tamiya Mitsubishi Pajaro, Tamiya Toyota Land Cruiser 80, Tamiya “YJ” Wrangler, ARII Nissan Safari, Aoshima Nissan four door JDM Terrano R3 (aka Pathfinder SE V6), and Aoshima Range Rover and Aoshima Toyota Hilux Surf Wide (aka 4Runner). I really appreciated Tim K's flexibility and follow-up as I continued to update the sidebar text in the magazine layout about 5 different times as I kept adding more and more of those primarily overseas manufactured kits! We also showed box art images images of the Fujimi Toyota FJ, Toyota Hi_Lux Surf Wide (the JDM version of the 4Runner) kits, the original Monogram Land Rover (c. 1980 and apparently never reissued), and the current Revell Germay Land Rover Series III LWB kits. Best...TB – Tim Boyd

I am expecting that you are exactly correct on this....it is very interesting to me, though, that they ran and shipped both kits at the same time...maybe one continuous run at the plant with the gate function shift you describe at the middle of the cycle? TB

Just to support James' comment, I also understood from Round 2 that the commonality of the two projects was a key enabler to the project going forward. I also do want to emphasize that the listing of shared parts in my earlier post is, I believe, just about complete or very close to it. The only other shared parts not mentioned above appear to be the rearview mirrors, the small diameter air cleaner, and possibly (but not certain) the front and rear pumpers. These latter parts are on different chrome trees, but appear to be designed based on the same data set. Likewise, the engine block and cylinder heads/intake, fan belt, fan, radiator, battery, firewall insert, and steering wheel also are on separate parts trees but appear to be based on a common design. Other than the parts trees listed in my note above and those listed here, it appears to me that all other parts in the two kits are different. Both kits do appear to share a common approach in terms of overall design and assembly, but the parts in my lists above appear to be the only ones that are identical in both cases. Won't be long now until we know the actual truth rather than just (hopefully informed) speculation (on my part and others as well). TB

Model Cars magazine #221 (corrected - thanks Dan) had an in-depth article on the surprisingly large number of SUVS that have been kitted over the last five decades. As the author of that article, I was surprised...no maybe more like almost shocked....at the number of kits in that category that have been produced, particularly from overseas manufacturers. Granted, most are historical topics now (i.e. kits of 1/1 vehicles no longer produced as new) but there number of relatively current offerings as well. Those of you who have not already read the article should check it out! Best...Tim PS - though the list in the article is extensive, and was cross checked against several reputable sources, I am sure that there are yet more SUV kit tools that were not mentioned in the article...TB

Very interesting; thx for the preview Marcos. Based on the '63 F100 kit I saw a few days ago, one of the chrome trees (the one with the slot mags), the two trees in the image with the open wheels and backing plates, and the tree with the engine block halves appear to be identical and shared between the '60 and '63 kits. The chassis plate also appears the same or close to the same, other than the half-arc cutouts in the outer side rails. The remainder of the overall parts layout also appears similar in philosophy (but not the actual parts) between the two kits. TB

Last I heard, and this was several years ago from a respected industry source, the tooling was safely stored away in South Korea. As to whether than has changed since, or as to who owns it, I do not know. TB

Just got a quick glimpse at the actual kit earlier today. As with Round 2's other recent "clones", my initial impression is that it appears to be a clear improvement over the original annual kit in a number of ways. Like I suspect many of the rest of you, I can't wait to buy the actual kit and get busy with it. Hopefully it should only be a few weeks away now! TB

FWIW, I have heard similar concerns (not specific to this kit, but more to the impact of major retailers' discounting of some new Round 2 kits) privately expressed to me by one of SE Michigan's premier hobby/model kit store owners. As a former businessperson I understand the need to optimize short term financial returns from a project like the Demon 340, but I cringe at the possible longer-term impact on the hobby store and mail order trade that has historically been such a key and loyal partner to Round 2 through most of their corporate existence. Thanks for sharing your POV here, Justin, it needs to heard by the core enthusiast part of the model car kit marketplace that is represented by readers of this forum. TIM .

Last i heard were words to the effect that the company owner had directed the team to take their and make sure everything is to be as correct as is possible. Exact timing was not mentioned, but based on my past observations of how Moebius develops kits, plus as Mike notes they do have several other projects underway that are sequenced ahead of this one, I think sometime in 2025 is probably a reasonable time frame....TB

Richard...that is one sharp looking model. If I were you, I wouldn't touch it with any changes. The level of detail you show on that model (painted chrome trim and nameplates, side marker lilghts, interior detail (headrest posts....) all show a level of detail not often seen on models built back in the day. Not to mention it ll looks "period correct" to my eye. Cool! I remember AMT Surf Green was a very popular color when AMT introduced it in the late 1960s. Back then I was doing some of the MPC National Customizing Contest events, and looking over the contest tables, I recall seeing tons of models painted that AMT color (along with tons of Monogram Bad Man models, but that's another story for another day). Thx for sharing...TIM

Hard to tell for sure, but that is probably 1968 Dodge code TT-1 Medium Green Metallic (the alpha/numeric - i.e. F3/F5/F6/F8/F9 - format did not start until the 1969 Model Year). or possibly Code Code FF-1 Light Green Metallic. MCW Automotive Finishes has offered model car size packaging of both colors in the past and may still do so. Here' a link to the autocolorlibrary paint chip page for 1968 Dodges.... 1968 Dodge (autocolorlibrary.com) TIM...

Looking really sharp so far, Justin. Love those wire wheels! Very much looking forward to seeing it come across the finish line...TIM

Early 1960s IIRC, though not a common install at first. By late 1960s, AM/FM Stereos were starting to become available in some cars (primarily luxury brands and large car near luxury nameplates). By 1970 FM Alternative (aka "underground") FM stations were underway in larger cities, by that point FMs became a must in most cars bought by our generation (often enabled via an underdash hangon as the factory FM radios were priced inordinately high vs the value they delivered compared to accessory installs). Ironically, my Dad's 1971 Fury Sport Suburban had an awesome factory installed five speaker AM/FM Stereo setup, the very same year that MPC introduced the new 1971 Plymouth Road Runner/GTX body (although in fairness to Justin's point earlier, pieces of the underbody gubbins of that kit can be traced back to the 1965 MPC (nee AMT) Coronet annual kit, a point at which FM (but not FM Stereo) radios were just beginning to experience a modest bump in the factory install rate, mostly in middle luxury and luxury nameplates...). TB

Since the window for text edits has expired, this note will have to suffice as a further update to my note above about the rear axle linkages. The technically correct terminology for the rear end "sway bar" is actually "Panhard Bar". For anyone who is into this level of detail, recommend you dig out your copy of MCM #22 and replace the words "Watts Linkage" in the text for the caption at the left center of page 17 with "Panhard Bar". Thanks... Also, if I am remembering correctly, my original article submission mmay have made reference to consideration of a Scatter Shield as becoming a requirement for manual transmission Gassers during the course of the 1960s. (Again, if my memory is correct that I included this mention in the text, it would have been omitted in the final article presentation due to space limitatations.) I didn't find one I liked but considered using the bellhousing/pseudo scatter shield lookalike in the c.1975 tooling of AMT's 1955 Corvette kit, which included a few extra parts for a drag racing themed build version. Also briefly considered but rejected the original Monogram 1969 Z-28 Street Machine kit tooled in the late 1970s. Any of you have better suggestion for a kit-based source of a period correct scatter shield sized to fit a Chevy 283/327 with a four-speed manual tranny? Best and happy 2024 modeling new year to you all...TIM

Should Round 2 choose to eventually reissue (or freshly clone) their '71 GTX/Road Runner tool, this is one way you could build it. This one used the 1987 yellow plastic reissue of the original kit, with the added 1/1 mid-year canopy vinyl roof and kitbashed wheels/tires replicating the (then) hi-buck aftermarket BFG Radial T/As on the optional 15"x7" Rallye wheels. Paint was MCW 1970 1/2 and 1971 Sassy Grass Green single stage (rubbed out and polished, without clearcoat). IIRC the painted dual racing mirrors came from a different Mopar kit that had a more realistic rendition of those parts. Would certainly be nice if we got a chance to build these again from fresh kit releases, either in 1971 and/or 1972 replica form....TB

When my late college/early worklife girlfriend went to work for GM Accounting in downtown Detroit, she needed a reliable car for her daily commute from Ann Arbor to Detroit and back and her semi-restored '66 Mustang I-6 wasn't going to get the job done. We went shopping, and found a real prize at the local Chevy dealer. A year-end leftover 1977 (ex-Nova) Concours four door, white with firethorn (red) velour interior, buckets and console, and 305 V8. It had everything you'd want in a pseudo BMW 5-series at a college graduate's budget, except for the optional full instrumentation/tach package. Great car! Sadly, it was replaced years later in 1983 with a Celebrity four door four cylinder....TB

Here's an example of the properly setup, partially completed rear suspension using the airbag setup referenced in my "supplemental" photo and caption above. This is from Travis Medford and you can see (and you should check out) his entire build in this same forum folder under the "'32 Ford Y-Block Drag Coupe series of at the link below....TB Photo and project credit: Travis Medford Photo and project credit: Travis Medford And here's a link to the entire thread with Travis' Y-Block Project....

Csaba....man this is cool. Sign of a true model car .. prevails over adversity and finishes the model project anyway. And gets a very, very sharp result anyway. Big congrats....TIM

Marcos.....way, way sharp! And really good to know that you liked the kit as much as I did... Congrats, and thanks for sharing....TIM

Thanks for the additional info and backup, Ron. My above referenced file on rear axles and diffs only had Mopar designs. So having done further follow-up using research of 1/1 scale late 1950s to early 1960s Olds axle photography, I now agree with your conclusions. I have updated/corrected the original photo/caption above to reflect your findings. While I would challenge anyone to beat me on identifying 1960s muscle era V8s, I am nowhere near as savvy on rear axles, so your help on this is much appreciated. It is just fascinating to me how we are always finding out new things in this hobby, even all these years later. Why would Revell have used a non-prototypical rear axle/diff design on their original SW& C tooling? Beats me...but the proof is above. And Ron, no need to apologize here for your willingness to deep dive on kit and scale authenticity from this corner. We all learn from this and I find it to be yet one more reason this model car hobby is so interesting and fun. Best regards, and thanks again....TB

This is really interesting; thanks for raising the question, and the follow-up info and picture, Ron. My understanding was always that the original Stone Woods &Cook Willys used a late 1950s Olds rear end. This is confirmed in this excerpt from CarTech discussing the history of both of the SWC Willys of the 1960's... Drag Racing Warriors: Stone, Woods & Cook Willys (cartechbooks.com) . It specifically identifies the Olds rear end in one sentence as of 1957 origin. Next, I checked both the Revell Anglia and Revell SW&C (1963 tooling) rear axles and they are essentially identical...likely certainly based on the same original wood pattern, but with tweaks for the slightly different rear suspension parts breakdown and narrower tread width of the Anglia. The Miss Deal rear also looks the same but (and this is news to me) scaled slightly larger for some reason. I also looked at the Revell 1950 Olds kit, which had an axle/diff that was not quite the same as the earlier mentioned kits, and the AMT/Ertl 1962 Pontiac kits; the latter looked more like the 1/1 scale image you posted above if I am remembering correctly (I was in a bit of a rush at the time). Still need to do some further research on this (somewhere in my files I have a reference of line drawings of popular rear ends from back in the day). (BTW I am not a 1/1 scale automotive mechanic, so I am relying on others to have done their research appropriately here). FWIW the AMT/Ertl 1957 Chevy Pickup and AMT/Ertl 1960 Pickups had somewhat similar appearing rear ends, I recall (I don't have the reference at hand right now) that the Harry Luzader car in its original form used a late 1950s Chevy pickup rear end; would be interesting to see if photo references of the real car look like those kit axles, yes? All this is to say that if...and that is a still a very big IF....the original Revell SW&C kit had an accurate rear axle/diff configuration representing a late 1950s Olds differential/axle, it should be a period correct Gasser correct application for model use as posted in my update photo and caption above. But I emphasize IF as I am not knowledgeable enough on this to say "for certain". I encourage any additional knowledge or comments from Forum members that can add to (or discredit) the info above. Ron, thanks for raising this subject and thanks again for your thanks for my contributions to the hobby. Hope you get your copy of MCM soon and can check out the article in detail. If you see any other article content that seems a bit questionable to you, please post it here. We all learn from this. And it's interesting, too! Very Best...TIM