Yes, he needed to borrow about $800.000 to finish building Charlotte so he approached Jimmy Hoffa and the Teamsters for a loan. The condition was to unionize the drivers. Him and Tim Flock took the fall and were banned for life! That lasted untill 1965 or so. He came up to Milwaukee in 62,63, and 64 and raced with the USAC guys. I was there, what a thrill!