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Okay one more try Caterpillar 1160 (Can be modified to a 3208 with a V-style diesel injection pump) AMT Ford LNT 8000 Caterpillar 3406A Revell/Monogram Kenworth W900 Aerodyne Snap Revell/Monogram Peterbilt 359 Snap Caterpillar 3408 Revell AG Kenworth W900 V.I.T. Revell AG Kenworth W900/T900 Australia Revell AG Kenworth W900 Dump Truck Revell AG Kenworth W900 Wrecker Cummins V903 ERTL International Transtar F-4270 Cummins NHC 250 AMT White Freightliner Single Drive AMT White Freightliner Dual Drive AMT Autocar 9964B Dump Truck AMT Autocar A64B Cummins NTA 370 AMT Kenworth K123/125 AMT Kenworth W923/925 AMT Kenworth W925 Challenge Transit Mixer AMT Kenworth W925 Alaskan Hauler AMT Kenworth T600A/Canepa Cummins NTC 350 AMT White Road Boss (the box says NTD 350 but there is no such engine) AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Series Cab T501 and all issues after that AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Series Cab T533 and all issues after that AMT Diamond REO AMT White Western Star Cummins NTC 400 Italeri Freightliner FLC Italeri Freightliner FLC Dump Truck Italeri Freighliner FLD (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Mack Superliner Revell AG/Italeri Ford LTL 9000 (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Ford Aeromax (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Western Star Cummins NTC 475 (twin turbos) Revell AG Kenworth K100 Revell AG Kenworth K100 V.I.T. Australia Revell AG Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Revell AG Kenworth K100 Heavy Hauler Tri Drive Revell AG Kenworth T600 and T600 Big Sleeper Revell AG Marmon Conventional (a modified Peterbilt 359 wich is not that correct) Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Revell AG Peterbilt 353 and Alaskan Hauler Tri Drive Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Bill Signs Trucking Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Stepp's "Can Do" and the later "Will Do" Wrecker Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Peterbilt 352 Pacemaker T551 and all issues after that AMT Peterbilt 359 California Hauler Unilite Cab "small window" T500-500, T500 and the most recent 866 AMT Peterbilt 359 Wrecker Unilite Cab "small window" T522 AMT GMC Astro 95 AMT Chevrolet Titan 90 AMT American LaFrance Fire Trucks ERTL International CO-4070A ERTL International Transtar II Eagle Detroit Diesel 8V-92 AMT/ERTL GMC General AMT/ERTL Chevrolet Bison Detroit Diesel 8V-92T AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne BJ & the Bear AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Papa Truck AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Hideout Truck Detroit Diesel 12V-71T AMT Kenworth W900 Super Boss "Thermo King" AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Super Boss "Bandag" AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Bandag Bandit Detroit Diesel 16V-71 AMT/ERTL International Payhauler 350 Detroit Diesel Series 60 Italeri Peterbilt 378 Revell/Itelari 377AE International V-800 AMT/ERTL International Paystar 5000 AMT/ERTL International Transtar 4300 ERTL International F-2674/2575 International Maxxforce 15 Moebius/Revell AG International Pro Star Moebius/Revell AG International Lone Star Mack ENDT-673 MPC/ERTL/AMT Mack DM600 Mack ENDT-675 AMT/ERTL Mack R.685ST / R-Model MACK ENDT-676 Tip Turbine AMT/ERTL Mack Cruiseliner COE Mack ENDT-685 MPC/AMT/ERTL Mack DM800 Mack E9 Italeri Renault Magnum Italeri Renault Turboleader Turbine Experimental AMT GMC Astro first issue T520 from 1971-72 AMT Parts Pack PP029 Recently Issued

I have tried to post several times but have had problems with it...not fun when you have put in a lot of time on the post. I try to post a new modified list but just get a page not found 404 when I try.

Thanks for pinning.

Yes most likely, the Monogram body is the first version of the Firebird Trans Am body used in the mid 80's, but the racers later modified the Trans Am body with a longer nose and some aero improvements. Don "Snake" Prudhomme used the first version of that body style from 1982 to 1985 and the later version with the longer nose 1987 to 1989.

Very nice executed, the detailing is just right without overdoing it, a model to be proud of.

If you have looked into the box of one of the Polar Lights (now owned by Round 2) Ford Torino Talladega's or Mercury Cyclone Spoiler II's you know that they come with everything needed to do a period correct NASCAR car. The kits themselves are not exactly "Pro Modeler" style and are not easy to build as they needs a lot of work to be a nice model, so on a skill level scale where 3 are most difficult they are about 5...with that I mean very challenging. There are two engines in both kits, a 427 and a BOSS 429 (no 428 as they didn't use that engine in NASCAR) so you can build both versions. These are not difficult to find, there are lots of them on the auction site for around $20-$25. Models we need IMHO is new tool kits of 1963 and 1964 Ford Galaxies...the old ones AMT did are ...well old and leaves lots to desire...so we need more correct ones...they can be based on the 1960 Ford Galaxie Starliner tool as the chassis and drive train can be used from that kit...but we need new bodys, interiors and bright parts.

That was my original thought when I put the lists together...I thought it was good useful information for all truck builders...but the moderators haven't noticed and pinned the topic as I thought they would. This topic consists of two different topics merged together and further in I listed these truck diesels again and I also did a list of resin truck diesels as well as a list of truck engine colors...as I said...useful information for a truck model builder. These lists are not exactly up to date right now as some have dissappeared and some have been added since they were put together, but as we can't edit old posts anymore I can't fix it. But here is the link to my original lists wich are in this topic:

Great idea and you got a cool build there.

Nice work John, and so fast...I'm impressed.

I got mine today and I can't do anything else than agree...they are very very nice. Thanks for your work Rico.

I was asked if I had pictures of John Force's old cars a couple of days ago so I put this post together. This is a picture rich post but I hope you don't mind, all pictures are gathered on the web over the years and all credits goes to the original photographers and it spans from the first Funny Car he ever ran up to today 1973-74 The rear engined 71-73 Mustang John ran with his brother Louie, I think this was a former Jack Chrisman car. 1975 Chevy Vega FC 7726 1976 Chevy Monza FC 7726 1977 Chevy Monza FC 7726 1978 Chevy Corvette FC 723 1979 Chevy Corvette FC 8 Early 1980 Chevy Corvette FC 8 Late 1980 Chevy Citation FC 8 1981 Chevy Citation FC 723 1982 Chevy Citation FC 723 1983 Chevy Camaro FC 723 1984 Chevy Camaro FC 4 1985 Chevy Corvette FC 723 Early 1986 Chevy Corvette FC 5 Late 1986 Chevy Cavalier FC 5 1987 Olds Firenza FC 4 1988 Olds Cutlass FC 4 1989 Olds Cutlass FC 3 1990 Olds Cutlass FC 6 1991 Olds Cutlass FC 1 1992 Olds Cutlass FC 1 1993 Olds Cutlass FC 2 1994 Chevy Lumina FC 1 1995 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 1996 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 Early 1997 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 Late 1997 Ford Mustang FC 1 1998 Ford Mustang FC 1 1999 Ford Mustang FC 1 2000 Ford Mustang FC 1 2001 Ford Mustang FC 1 2002 Ford Mustang FC 1 2003 Ford Mustang FC 1 2004 Ford Mustang FC 3 2005 Ford Mustang FC 1 2006 Ford Mustang FC 3 2007 Ford Mustang FC 1, after Eric Medlens passing after the test crash in Gainesille FL John used FC 4 as a tribute to him, John himself crashed in Dallas TX and got injured and couldn't finish the year. 2008 Ford Mustang FC 7 2009 Ford Mustang FC 7 2010 Ford Mustang FC 9 2011 Ford Mustang FC 1 2012 Ford Mustang FC 9 2013 Ford mustang FC 9 2014 Ford Mustang FC 1 2015 Chevrolet Camaro FC 2 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 7 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 4 2018 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 7 2019 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC One thing you might notice is that the Funny Car bodies looked a lot more like the cars they were supposed to be up to 1999, after that NHRA lightened and changed the rules and we got the ugly wedge shaped bodies with a bump on top for the driver we have now.

And this has to do with "Car Kit News & Reviews" in what way???? But it's not a huge mystery why the 50 Olds beat the old 30's and 40's Ford's who had flatheads in them. Oldsmobile and Cadillac got Over Head Valve V8 engines in 1949 (Olds Rocket 303 cui and Cadillac 331 cui), both became very popular and were put in various cars to replace the old original less powerful engines if you wanted your car to go, Chrysler did their first OHV V8 1951 (331 cui), DeSoto 1952 (276 cui) and Dodge 1953 (241 cui) these were the first generation Hemis, Ford got their first OHV V8 engine (239 cui Y-Block) 1954 and the Chevrolet and Pontiac OHV V8 came 1955 (Chevy 265 cui small block and Pontiac 287 cui). So in short, the OHV V8's was better, more efficient and more powerful than the old flathead V8's. I don't know why you mention the 50 Ford Coupe tho', it still had a flathead as FoMoCo didn't do the OHV engine until 1954 as i mentioned...even the Mercury wich also had the same basic flathead V8 as the Ford's at the time had more horse power output...but the 49-51 Ford's and Mercury's was often re-powered with Cadillac or Oldsmobile OHV engines.

I agree, it's the easiest way to do a coil spring and you can do whatever diameter, length and distance between the coils you need to make it look right...I have often used soft wires to do coil springs and do as Peter explains, stretch it out a bit so the coil looks even and the spacing looks right. Using functional springs on a static model is just to make it more difficult than it has to be.

Don't worry, I did not take it that way. But a list of aftermarket suppiers for truck models would be a good thing...I don't know if doing a detailed list of what they have would be necessary if they have a website.

That's what I usually do and they get quite even.

That list includes resin diesel engines and who does them...but it was a while ago so it may have to be updated some as I know a few more has been done since then, in that same topic a bit further down I listed the engine colors for most American truck diesels. My original thought was that these lists would be pinned as it's good information for truck builders because frequently asked questions in the truck categories are "where can I find (fill in manufacturer and type) truck engine", and "what color is (fill in manufacturer and type) engine", that's why these lists should be pinned somewhere so they are easy to find...I had to search the forum for a while to find that specific topic now. I have these lists on my hard drive but that's not the case for everyone else, and I did them to help others. To list everything made for truck kits on the aftermarket would be a huge task and the availabillity changes as old stuff dissappears and new stuff being added, so it's easier to list the companies...with websites if they have one...and you can see for yourself what's available.

Isn't the third generation 5.7, 6.1, 6.2 and 6.4 basically the same engines except for the bore/stroke and some of the outside accessories. These engines do have the spark plugs in the center of the valve cover and the intake and exhaust valves opposite eachother like the generaton 1 and 2 Hemi's but that doesn't automatically make them a Hemi, these engines don't have hemisferical combustion chambers in the heads so they are not a true Hemi regardless of what Chrysler wants us to believe with the Hemi name.

Has anyone seen this posted yesterday on the NHRA.com website. https://www.nhra.com/news/2019/modeling-mementos

I can't agree more...very nice builds.

These are nice kits and yours look good so far...I remeber them on the tracks from back in the day...the Mercedes C9 had a distinct V8 sound and the Jaguar had nice V12 sound. I have a couple of the C9 and a Jaguar XJS 9 in my stash and will probably build them someday.

Yes I do. This is going to be a picture rich post but I hope you don't mind, all pictures are gathered on the web over the years and all credits goes to the original photographers 1973-74 The rear engined 71-73 Mustang John ran with his brother Louie, I think this was a former Jack Chrisman car. 1975 Chevy Vega FC 7726 1976 Chevy Monza FC 7726 1977 Chevy Monza FC 7726 1978 Chevy Corvette FC 723 1979 Chevy Corvette FC 8 Early 1980 Chevy Corvette FC 8 Late 1980 Chevy Citation FC 8 1981 Chevy Citation FC 723 1982 Chevy Citation FC 723 1983 Chevy Camaro FC 723 1984 Chevy Camaro FC 4 1985 Chevy Corvette FC 723 Early 1986 Chevy Corvette FC 5 Late 1986 Chevy Cavalier FC 5 1987 Olds Firenza FC 4 1988 Olds Cutlass FC 4 1989 Olds Cutlass FC 3 1990 Olds Cutlass FC 6 1991 Olds Cutlass FC 1 1992 Olds Cutlass FC 1 1993 Olds Cutlass FC 2 1994 Chevy Lumina FC 1 1995 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 1996 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 Early 1997 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 Late 1997 Ford Mustang FC 1 1998 Ford Mustang FC 1 1999 Ford Mustang FC 1 2000 Ford Mustang FC 1 2001 Ford Mustang FC 1 2002 Ford Mustang FC 1 2003 Ford Mustang FC 1 2004 Ford Mustang FC 3 2005 Ford Mustang FC 1 2006 Ford Mustang FC 3 2007 Ford Mustang FC 1, after Eric Medlens passing after the test crash in Gainesille FL John used FC 4 as a tribute to him, John himself crashed in Dallas TX and got injured and couldn't finish the year. 2008 Ford Mustang FC 7 2009 Ford Mustang FC 7 2010 Ford Mustang FC 9 2011 Ford Mustang FC 1 2012 Ford Mustang FC 9 2013 Ford mustang FC 9 2014 Ford Mustang FC 1 2015 Chevrolet Camaro FC 2 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 7 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 4 2018 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 7 2019 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC One thing you might notice is that the Funny Car bodies looked a lot more like the cars they were supposed to be up to 1999, after that NHRA lightened and changed the rules and we got the ugly wedge shaped bodies with a bump on top for the driver we have now.

John Force has raced a lots of different Funny Cars over the years, I have been to the JFR Headquarters in Yorba Linda, CA several times (most recent was back in October 2018 and I have also met the man himself a couple of times) and many of his old cars are on display in the museum. The first Funny Car he ever raced (or should I say tried to race) was a rear engined 71-73 Ford Mustang, in 1975 he had a Chevy Vega, 1976-77 he used Chevy Monza bodys, 1978-80 Chevy Corvette, 1980-82 Chevy Citation, 1983-84 Chevy Camaro, 1985 Chevy Corvette, 1986 Chevy Cavalier, 1987 Old Firenza, 1988-93 Olds Cutlass, 1994 Chevy Lumina, 1995-97 Pontiac Firebird, 1997-2014 Ford Mustang and 2015-Present Chevy Camaro. He also had a short stint in a Fuel Altered back in the early 70's

Very nice models both of them. The Lotus 78 with #6 was the last car Ronnie Peterson ever drove as he crashed at Monza September 10th 1978 and passed away the day after. The man could have been one of the greatest if he would have lived.

Here are the best pictures I have found regarding the brake chamber placement borrowed from Pavel Amrich.

You can find instructions here Clayton. https://public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/truckkit_instructions/amt/t502_peterbilt_352/ They have instructions for most of the truck models sorted by kit manufacturer.