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Perhaps you should revisit my post, as I was not talking about you. I agreed with pretty much everything you said, except that I believe that people should be left to make their own mistakes and earn their own proverbial "T shirts". I'll be honest, it had never crossed my mind to use Rusoleum paints from Wallmart. That was until I read the Rustoleum wars all over the net. That is what made me go and try it. Just as a challenge, to find out for myself. And since I decant pretty much everything, other than being a little thicker, I did not have much trouble with the Rustoleum colors. The biggest pain was cleaning my airbrush afterwards. So I have earned my T shirt too. My issue here is not whether someone likes or dislikes any paint, material, tool or whatever. To each their own. What I have an issue with is when people are telling other people to not even bother with given material/tool, just because it doesn't work for them. And I say, GO FOR IT. Even if it did not work out for me, maybe it will for you. Find out for yourself what works FOR YOU and what does not. What irks me is when the same people go on a crusade against people for their personal choices and belittle them, while complaining about how set in their ways the "Rustoleum crowd" is while demonstrating the exact same attitude they are complaining from. And looking at some models here on the forum, facebook, youtube and at shows, I am pretty sure way more hobby spraycan paint jobs did not achieve the desired outcome than the Rustoleum jobs. The difference is that everyone concentrates on Rustoleum. And sorry, but I'm not sorry to say it, the biggest bashing of Rustoleum always comes from people who couldn't make it work for themselves. I can't give up all my secrets, LOL, but if some people on here spend a weekend with me and watch me build models and then see the results, they may jump off a cliff or set themselves on fire. Generally speaking I believe people overcomplicate the hobby instead of finding new ways to enjoy it. I'm completely aware that MCW and Scale Finishes are automotive lacquers, and I use Duplicolor primers and clears, also automotive paints. I have said however, that aftermarket paint providers, such as MCW and Scale Finishes produce paint for the hobby, which is a fact. Whether or not they are designed to be used on styrene plastic is a moot point. They don't produce paint at all, let alone for the hobby. They repackage automotive paint which they MARKET for the hobby. And it is not a moot point, because by your logic Rustoleum paint being for garden furniture would also be a moot point. The point is not which product is made for what, but that we have been using products with completely different purposes in the hobby for ages.

The interior does indeed look amazing. I am not familiar with either kit and honestly don't know what came in it and what was added in the build, but it looks very well detailed.

This is really top notch. I watched a Kindig design tv marathon some time ago and it was all about him making his own interpretation of the '53. So I bought a kit, but I never even started it. Your build is absolutely stunning and may serve as an inspiration in the future.

The picture of your mock up shows what a timeless design the 32 Tudor is. I mean, there is not a single line wrong on this thing.

Mine arrived yesterday too. Already started it. Can't decide on color. It is a fantastic kit and the decal sheet is way better than on the Euro market kit.

There is so much BS on this two pages, that my head is spinning and I don't know where to begin. I am sorry to be the one saying it, but someone had to. And it is exactly what I was talking about in my previous post. The "anti-Rustoleum sect" is just as bad and ridiculous as "the Rustoleum sect". Your comments on here are like the definition of being rigid and uncompromising. What YOU believe and what works for YOU, does not mean that it is the same for others. **** And I 'm sorry, but we should set some kind of boundaries what are we talking about. Are we talking about using Rustoleum product in general or are we talking about using their spray cans for shooting paint straight from the can onto he body? Because these are two entirely different things. Some Testors spray cans will drown your model, bubble up on it, drip and leave puddles with fish eyes. Wait...let me correct that.MOST TESTORS CANS will do that. And some will argue that it is all about "user error". Fine. But they are hooby paint in a can made for painting models right? So why does it take a week to cure and Tamiya cures in a day? Which brings us to the elephant in the room. What is hobby paint? And what is paint in general. Because House of Color is NOT made for plastic models. Nail Polish is NOT made for plastic models. Automotive (duhh) hot lacquers are NOT made for plastic models. Are you ready for it? MCW, Splash, Gravity, Scale finishes, SMS etc.,etc. are NOT made for plastic models. All of them are companies where someone had a large quantity of factory code paint mixed in an auto paint shop and then brakes it into smaller bottles with their label. Inside is the exact same hot automotive lacquer you will get if you walk into a PPG shop and order paint for your real car. And as we know, all these paints WILL give us trouble depending on how are we using them and what we combine them with. Have you stripped chrome with oven cleaner? That's not made for plastic models. Have you botched up a paint-job and soak it in break fluid? That's definitely not made for plastic models! Bondo anyone? That's not made for plastic models. Future floor polish? Yeah, definitely not for scale models. But we all have used these products and many still do. And there is no problem with it and everyone has accepted it. But actual paint that sticks to plastic? Oh, no! How dare anyone? That's not made for plastic models!!! "I've always been of the opinion that price had to be the sole factor in the use of these paints. That and the availability factor." Wrong! Besides, why does the reason matter? They may want to paint with watercolor fingerpaint. Why the crusade against these people? Some of the building shown on Youtube by "high-profile modelers" is absolutely atrocious. From the globs of superglue to the lack of barely any glue to spraying completely assembled and painted interiors with gloss from a spray can. I think people are way too into what's on the net and it is harmful in many ways. Having said that, the comment for the quality of finish is absolutely groundless. I am not a Rustoleum fanboy, but I am not opposed to it being used in the hobby. Every time I have used it I have achieved great results. Not my favorite paint to use, but totally usable IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. In this picture there are four models. The green B400 is done with Tamiya paint, the blue Phantom Vicky is done with Tamiya (dark blue) and PPG automotive (brighter blue on bottom)paints. The Mint Tudor Deuce is done in two different rustoleum greens and the fenders are Tamiya black. The blue fender poking out at the right is a Nissan automotive tri-coat. And all of them have pretty much the same quality finish. Actually, the green B400, which is using 100% modeling paint from Tamiya, is just a step behind from the other three in the finish department. And I did not use the green Rustoleum colors because I wanted to experiment, nor to save money or anything like that. No. I saw the real car in magazines and online, went to the Good Guys show, saw it in person and loved the color combo. When I was in Wall Mart for something completely different, I walked by the paint section and saw these two greens and thought: "wow, these are the colors of the car I loved. Let's make it work." And I did. And do you know why it has a great finish? Because it was prepped underneath just like for automotive paint and it was topped off with 2K clear. Which by the way will equalize the finish no matter the paint underneath, which is the point of the photo. I don't understand some of the logic here on the forum. Or the lack thereof. So, let's decant paint from Testors and Tamiya spray cans that are designed for models, but shoot models straight from the can when it is not meant for models? How does that even make sense? Or lets spend 3 weeks prepping a body by sanding it up to 3000 grid before we spray special primer on it, then sand it down again to 6000 grid, just so we can spray more primer and then basically polish it to 12000 grid and let it cure for a week before we spray an undercoat for the undercoat of the color we are going to use, sanding and curing in between, but then b!1ch and moan about Rustoleum melting our model because we shot it over plain plastic or didn't prep it properly? Wrong! A can of Rustoleum is cheaper than a tiny can of Tamiya paint. Someone else earlier mentioned that you can't use the Rustoleum paint after the first use, which is also completely false. People need to understand how paint works. The Rustoleum is meant to paint a garden chair in your breezy back yard successfully with minimal effort. The MrSurfacer (I personally believe Tamiya is better and I don't understand why HL switched it) is meant to spray plastic models in a confined environment. Naturally they are charged with different pressure, have different nozzles and they contents are not thinned the same. But if decanted and properly reduced they will work the same as far as their thickness goes. It is the same about paint attacking plastic. It is not the paint that is doing it, but the solvent that it is thinned with. You can have the exact same paint reduced with different thinners and it would interact differently with plastic and other paint. So here are four models. The first is automotive Jaguar dark green, followed by a pink one which my 13 year old painted straight from the Rustoleum can to make a mothersday gift for his mom, then another Rustoleum color airbrushed on and then a ModelMaster metallic. My kid said that he wants a pink hot rod for his mom. He's not really into models that much, mainly because of the choices offered by kit manufacturers. So Walmart across the street it is. Can of pink for $6, which I just clear coated for him. Zero issues and absolutely nothing to do with money. Now the model next to it, was built basically because I saw the color in Walmart and I thought it would look really cool on a hot rod. That model would have never been built if it wasn't for the Rustoleum spray can catching my attention on a shelf. Again, nothing to do with cost, size or anything like that. And there are plenty of people who have seen my models at shows and I don't believe anyone can call my paint jobs below average.

Thank you Trevor. It really took a lot of restraint not to smack it against the wall quite few times. LOL

That may actually be my ticket - the stock Delorean. I would love to build one of those.

Well, after seeing the model here on the forums, I ordered one. It arrived earlier today (or is it yesterday now). I was actually super excited about it. I have way too many projects I'm trying to finish and the last thing on earth I need is yet another one. But I could not help it and started looking into it and mocking things up. Before you know it I was gluing the engine together... So what the heck, I'll build it. Let me tell you my first impressions. This is a really high quality kit. It is not quite Tamiya precision, but it is the closest Revell has ever gotten. The engineering is top notch and parts fit very well with very little cleaning or none at all. The engine is very detailed and it is really a shame that once build, none of that detail would be seen. This is actually one of the reasons why I don't mind adding it to my list of current projects. It is the perfect model to build straight from the box and enter in box stock class at shows, because just like on the real car, everything is hidden. Revell have still done an amazing job with the detail and engineering. Like some engine parts which could be molded together are done as separate pieces, just so they could be painted separately so paint detail can be executed with ease. That goes for the body and interior also. Having both right hand drive dash and center console and left hand drive is a very rarely seen option in kits and is a pleasant surprise. The second thing that impressed me are the wheels and tires. Again not quite Tamiya level threads on the tires, but getting there. Actually there is a little detail that is better than Tamiya/Fijimi/Aoshima on the wheels tire assembly. And that is the little groove on the inside of the tires, which first does not allow you to put the tire on the wheel in the wrong direction and then makes that annoying inner edge on the wheel sink in and sit flush. I love it. Third thing that is impressive is the decal sheet. The choice of two different stripes aside, it is a very well thought out decal sheet without being big or confusing. For example it offers three different "stitching" options for the emblems on the headrests of the seats, meaning you can have different color emblems for different color interiors. The decals on the engine cover give you two different color options for silver or black panels with contrasting "Corvette" script, but what is very cool is there is also a plain "Corvette" script, so if you want to color match the panels you can still have the emblems on it. There are four different main screen configurations for the dash and four different center console screen configurations, which means there are 16 different display configurations you can chose from. They're also British, Australian, Japanese and American license plates plus the "showroom" Vette plates. Best of all, most of the decals include a spare. For the seats there are three headrest emblems from each color. For brake calipers there are five decals in each of the two color choices. Same with all the emblems. And since the third brake light is a decal, there are two red ones, but also two tinted black ones if that's the route you would like to take. The only thing I believe Revell should really work on improving are the instructions. Some parts are vaguely pointed where they go or how they attach. I personally have no problem figuring it out, but I can see a lot of people being confused. Especially inexperienced builders. Still, overall I can definitely say that Revell has knocked it out of the ball park with this kit. The manner in which everything is done in my opinion shows that Carrera/Revell are clearly aiming at the Japanese competition. Now I just have to decide what color to make it.

Whichever way you go it will be fine. These cars are not only build to order, but their owners constantly change them, especially when they change hands. There are some there that are very subtle (if that could ever be said about a Huayra) and done in elegant colors inside and out. And then there are some clown cars that are a testament that money can't buy taste. The situation with thickness of finish coats affecting fitment can be an issue with any kit. As I said you have primer, black gloss, decal and clear. What's more is that this is on both mating surfaces as all my panels are covered with carbon, even underneath the hoods. So now you have double the coats. And I like using 2K clear, which will be generally slightly thicker. But if you build it without carbon decals it could be greatly beneficial for you. It will save you money, time, your sanity and fit better with less work. So go for it. I would love to see more of these built.

Man, that color...

This is super cool. I may have to find me one of these kits. I love the movie and it looks like a very detailed model. You did a fantastic job with it too.

I have been on his site many a time. I don't know how I never picked up any of his products. I have heard nothing but high praise of his parts.

This is wild!

Nice! It looks angry.

Great work! All the details is what makes this model so nice. The Tiki shifter, the heads, the air filters.... That paint... Your blend is so well done that at first I had figure out is it two different colors or is it a colorshift paint. Funny thing is that I always had a soft spot for the '49 Mercs and still have never build one.

Beautiful! The clear definitely made the color come alive. I believe that once you add all the contrasting black detail it will pop even more. Excellent job!

To be honest, I had Tamiya paint give me nightmares on more than one occasion and have achieved really nice results with "wallmart-garden-furniture-paint". My Good Guys Hot Rod of the Year tribute model was painted with two different Rustoleum colors and it turned out really nice. And so did my "Change of Pace '29". Is Rustoleum ever going to be my go-to model paint? No way! It is not the easiest to work with, but that doesn't mean it can't be used. I hate the Tamiya white primer with a passion. I think it's awful. Their copper metallic has given me hell and the Maroon color on my "Delivery Deuce" was just plain pain to work with for some reason. But I would still take Tamiya over any other hobby paint and their grey primers are so incredibly good that I would often shoot them straight from the can. And they handle almost anything on top. The point I am trying to make is that different things work differently for different people. I find people from the"Rustoleum Cult" described above equally ridiculous as the people on the other extreme end who are determined to convince the world that Rustoleum paint should never be used on models. Now, the issue with people not being able to accept opinions different than theirs is a whole different beer. I got banned from a group for giving an honest unbiased review of an expensive diecast model, just because some people could not accept the fact that they spend a lot of money on a mediocre model. And the dumbest thing was that I was reviewing my own model, which means I was in the same boat as them. It's pride and ego I guess and some people can never accept, God forbid admit, that they have made the wrong decision. Overall I think some people are taking their hobbies way too seriously, forgetting that after all we are just playing with toy cars.

I did not mean the spray cans working just the way they are. They do not. But they will store the paint better, safer and for longer than any other jar. And on top of that have a rattle ball that will mix it when you need to use it. What I meant was why overcomplicate the storage aspect.

Very very cool. I love how clean it looks, very smooth. And I mean the overall design of it, not just the paint, which is also excellent. I can almost smell Granny Smith apples looking at your model. LOL. Those RB Motion shocks look great. I have spent a lot of stupid money on whole lotta different useless hobby junk over the years. Yet I have never used a single RB Motion part. And they look like really high quality pieces. Tempting!

That's pretty neat. I love the color combo too.

Very cool. I love Morgans. I wish there were kits of the more modern ones. Same with TVR. Would love me some Aero 8 or Sagaris kits.

Thank you Carl. It took a while to finish, but it was worth it.

Looks really nice. What kit is that?