DaveM

Fantastic! Great foil, excellent paint work and well executed detailing. This is one of the nicest models I have seen in a long time. The fact that it is a model of one of the prettiest cars ever built is just a bonus! Great work!

Were the wheels (Minus the hubcaps) the same as the 1962 Pontiac 421 SD? Thinking about building a 1961 Street Machine with mags to match a car I have seen. If I do that, I could upgrade the wheels on the '62 with the leftovers.

I am in for a few of these. I will grab a Blazer, '37 Chevy, Vicky and a couple of the Macks. I will probably also grab a set or two of the redlines. Hopefully, AMT will put some upgraded parts in these kits too. (Anything upgraded with clear headlights will go straight to the top of my "buy" list.) Tim, thanks for clearing up the history of the Vicky kit. This is the one I want to get to kitbash with my older AMT kits.

What's the best way to fix this one? It looks like you could mount the springs a bit forward on the chassis, or should we leave the spring location alone and move the axle up on the spring ahead. Either one would take a bit of fiddling, but I am inclined to move the axle ahead on the springs.

Looks great. I have one of these going right now, but progress is slow.

"C" is my favorite letter of the alphabet... Great models, and I agree with the other posters. More pictures would be great. Those kits are a handful to build and detail, but they sure look nice! Nice job! Dave

I don't use this comment too often, but "Droooooooooooooool!!!" That is my new favorite model . I love the way the truck is done. It's not a full custom. It has some nice touches and sensible upgrades, but it is still a shop truck that can haul a dragster and tools around. (And look mighty fine doing it) The wheels are perfect for the truck. The dragster looks great. (No place to hide mistakes and sloppy work on a dragster model like that either, so your work has to be clean to look that nice!) I hope you do well at the contest. It deserves an award in my book. Great job! Dave

A while back, I promised a box stock build of this kit. I still plan to do this, with a build thread. I was delayed by a medical situation in the family. I hope to make some progress soon. so far, I have most of the parts cleaned up and ready for painting. I also have the big stuff glued together and the seam lines cleaned up. My original intent was to build a contest model for the box stock class to use at a contest or two next year. I will not have the time for that right now, and I will choose a slightly more accurate kit when I do. (Possibly another 1970 Torino) This kit will be built as a fun shelf model. Accuracy is really important in a box stock class, as you can't alter the model to fix inaccuracies. This kit has some really nice detail, crisp engraving, great parts and good fit so far. It's actually a pretty nice kit until you compare some of the body details to a real car. The good news is that most of the problems can be fixed pretty easily by the builder, and also by Revell. I am hopeful that the next release of the kit will have a different grille (RS, or Z/28, or base) This will solve the problem of the SS miscue. The nose of the car, and the taillight panel could be easily fixed in the next release. The overall shape of the body is pretty nice, so just those two spots need to be fixed. I don't mind the fender bulges as much as some people do. They are a pretty minor flaw, although I might work them over with a sanding stick if I was building a full bore replica model. I will fill and fix the door ding on my shelf build. That is just basic model building, Right now, I am thinking about making mine Gold, with the black interior, but that is subject to change until the first color coat is shot. I know I have said this before, about a couple of other Revell models, but if they fix the nose and tail of this model, I will buy a kit or two of each version they release. (And I know they will do a lot of different versions of this kit just like the 69.) The rest of the kit is too nice to give up on it now. It is much easier for Revell to touch it up and fix the tooling once than it is to expect all five or ten thousand of their customers to fix it individually. with just a little help, this kit could be right up there with the '69 Camaro, '70 Torino, '68 Firebird and some of their other great kits. To paraphrase that old baseball movie, "Fix it and we will buy!"

I always thought the 71 was intact after the '87 release (In Yellow) I hope this is the case, and they can repop this one. It is a pretty nice kit, and the body could easily be mated up to some of the 71 charger running gear to make a nicer model. These were good looking cars right from the start. This is one of the few Round2 reissues that would pry my wallet open for multiple kits.

I'm surprised they took it that far and abandoned it. I wonder what it would take to tool up a suspension and motor for it, and clean up the engine bay a bit. Hopefully, someday they will try to finish it up.

I hope somebody from Revell reads this board. I just voted with my wallet and bought two Torinos. I am glad to see the reissue, and I am even more glad to see the fixes. Great job and thanks. I am ripping one open right now and it will join my current project on the workbench. I haven't picked a color yet, but it will be factory stock, and probably OOB like the Camaro I am working on. The other will probably end up detailed a bit more, and be a "Day two" type of a car with nice wheels and a few bolt ons. At some point I will get a third kit and do a drag car out of it. This is a great kit, and the fixing up adds value to me. Hopefully you will continue to improve some of your reissues. (69 Nova, 90 Mustang and the funky fenders on the 70 Cuda. come to mind right away) I can fix pretty much any mistake in a kit, but most model buyers can't, and I would rather spend my time detailing or customizing. I have always loved these Torinos, and I am thrilled to see an improved version of this kit back. The etch is a sweet addition too. Like they almost said in that baseball movie, "Fix it and they will buy."

I am also becoming a photo etched detail fan, but I prefer kits to have raised emblems for a few reasons. They open up a lot of options. They can be painted by the first time builder, or by kids who will never get as deeply into the hobby as we are. The look pretty darned good when they are foiled, as they are both raised and shiny, just like the real ones. and they can be removed pretty quickly and painlessly to put photo etch on. I also don't mind fairly tall engraved emblems, as they will survive a couple of coats of paint and still be able to be painted or foiled. Remember, for every one of us who paints with lacquers or acrylic enamels, there are probably a dozen people painting kits with Testor's spray cans. Emblems on the '62 'Vette and the like may be more "in scale" when the body is raw, but as the thicker paints flatten out the detail, the sharpness ends up being lost. Decals just don't cut it. Nothing screams "FAKE" more than a decal where there should be an emblem. On the grille, what would happen if you made small holes at the ends of the place where the horizontal bars go and then scribed a very small groove with a scriber or the back of an exacto? Maybe some .009 or so guitar string could be polished up and bent into place. At least it would be shiny and not too huge. For my box stock build, I will leave it just like it is, and probably blacken the center part of the grille and foil the horizontal strips. I am cleaning up the parts, gluing the parts together that will need to have seams filled, and getting things ready to prime. So far, this kit seems to have nice fit and positive location. I think it's going to be one of Revell's better recent kits.

I just noticed that Tim Boyd's review a few posts up from this one has a far better picture of the grille than I will ever be able to take. Great review Tim. I love the other Camaros that you had in the pictures too. The '69 Camaro is also one of my favorite kits. I have done a couple. That '68 is excellent. Considering the age of the tool, and the fact that that kit has some tricky spots, you really nailed it. Great color too. As to whether the wheels are Minilite or Western... Isn't the letter "W" just an upside down "M" (Disclaimer; This comment comes from a guy who raced with the number "88" using the logic that it would read the same right side up or upside down. )

Sorry, but I had a family medical situation to deal with the last day and a half. (Everything is going to be okay) If somebody else can snap a pic of the grille I promised, I would appreciate it. Otherwise I will try to get new batteries in the camera and do it tomorrow things have been pretty busy here, and I can't sneak out to the store until I can get somebody to come over and watch things while I'm away. I might have some time to work on the Camaro tomorrow, but I won't be able to get any supplies. I also hope there are many more variations. A 'vert would be nice, and an RS version, plus a Z/28 for the small block setup. Then, it's just a matter of mixing and matching the parts until you get the exact version you want. The pace car would be really cool. I should do a '69 pace car and display them together. I could even toss in a '55 Chevy pace car. I have too many ideas, and not enough time!

Yeah. I checked the color charts and Googled right after posting. It doesn't quite look like Honduras Maroon in those pics, but it seems to be a bit more red than Dawnfire Mist Poly. You might be right in calling it a repaint. I actually have a can of that Honduras Maroon. I might just go that way, as that would look nice too. Thanks, Dave

I almost picked one up when I got the Camaro. I want to see what parts are in the box before I pull the trigger. Box looked nice! I have the first release of this kit, and it's pretty nice. Minor glitches with the seats and stuff, but the body is pretty nice and it builds into a nice looking Torino. The box on the new kit does mention photo etched parts, so they must have done a repop of the Pro-Modeler version. I hope somebody will post the contents soon. If it has all of the good stuff, I will probably get another.

Awww Mannnn! Right after I post about how much I love the Yellow one, you have to post THAT? It's okay... red cars are overrated... I can resist... I wonder if MCW or Scalefinishes makes that color. That is the perfect example of why American Iron used to rule the road. That car is gorgeous. Great Post Gerry.

This is an example of why Moebius is succeeding. Dave is teasing us keeping us informed and updated on the upcoming kits. There is a lot of anticipation building with these releases. I was going to let the Pontiacs slide, and buy the Pickups, the Cyclones, more of the Cyclones and a couple of the Plymouths. Now with the photos being posted in this thread, and all of the discussion about the real cars, I will have to pick up a couple of these too. (And I thought I was too old for peer pressure!) While all of you are drooling over the blue one (And rightfully so), I really like the light yellow one. Based on my past experience with Moebius, I will probably buy these without having to see one first. They seem to be making good kits. Make great kits of nice cars, treat your customers like the gold they are, and you might just make it in this business! Dave, thanks for posting, keeping us informed and not letting the few "Negative Nellies" on the internet drive you away. Also, make sure you get a commission on the Pontiacs I buy.

plowboy, I don't have the camera today, as it is out socializing with Cathie. If nobody else posts a good pic of the grille, I will try to get to it late tonight. Otherwise I can do it tomorrow. I don't know how good the photos will be, but you will be able to see the design of the grille. It is a bit weird, and is going to take some effort to fix. My first build of this car will be box stock, so I will have to live with it. Subsequent builds of this kit will use the MCG photoetch kit for the AMT Camaros. I will have to adapt the surround to the grille, probably, but like all of Revell's recent offerings, this one is in desperate need of emblems, so serious builds will need a Photoetch set anyways. I will use the decals for this build, as I am answering a challenge to build it OOB.

I would love to see Grumpy's Camaro be the next release! I am just thinking that AMT may have the licensing deal with his estate, since they released the '66 Nova. Hopefully it's not an exclusive agreement and Revell can put this one out. They would have to touch up the grille to make it a non SS car anyways, so they may fix the other glitches on the part too. My first thought when this kit was announced was to get the MCG '67 Camaro etched grille and put the parts together for this build. A Revell release of this version would be one of the few possible releases that would be a "sweeper" for me. "What is a Sweeper?", you ask A "sweeper" is a kit that goes to the top of the priority list so quickly that I bring it home from the hobby shop in one hand and use my free arm to sweep all of my existing projects off of my workbench and on to the floor! (The tongue in cheek term was coined back when I was in a College building club and the '66 Nova kit was released.) If Revell did Jenkins' '67, they would also tool up some headers for it, giving us another parts option. Hopefully, they saw enough sales action on the Sox & Martin 'Cuda to convince them that the old doorslammers are pure modeling gold. In looking over the parts quickly, I noticed that the body is really clean. There are only a couple of parting lines to deal with on the quarters, and they are very fine. I will have to sand the hood down a bit, as it is a snug fit with no paint. The front rollpan is separate, and like all models of the Camaros, Firebirds and Mopar E Bodies from this era, Fitting the completed chassis under the body may be a tricky deal. The chrome looks nice and the wheels seem decent. The engine and chassis parts have nice engraving and it looks at first glance like it will build into a sharp model. I will start cleaning up and gluing the parts tonight and paint some stuff later this week!

I just got this kit today. I have decided to go ahead and build it, as I am getting a backlog of kits piled up. If I don't build, I won't be able to buy all of the new releases that come out. I will build it box stock, probably not for a contest, but as a shelf model. I will follow the standard rules and build it with nothing but putty, primer, paint, flocking and foil. I will use the kit decals too. This can be a great way to learn about a kit. You can't make any major changes, so you have to live with the inaccuracies, and you see all of the construction glitches. This kit looks like it will fit pretty well. I will post as I go (probably in the workbench forum) once I get started. I am going to keep the build simple yet fun. I am not sure of the color yet, but I am looking at pictures on the net, and have a few ideas, both with and without stripes. With all of the talk going on, I just want to build up the kit and see how it stacks up. Should be a nice looking Camaro when it's done, in spite of my lack of building skills!

I will be grabbing a couple of the stock ones. Thanks for keeping us posted on all of the new releases. I can't wait to see which drag versions you do. Thanks for keeping up posted and building up the anticipation for these.

Droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool! That drawing really sets the mood. You just sold a couple of these to me. (Actually, I have been waiting for these kits since they were first announced.)

Those Cutlasses were everywhere in the '80s and early '90s. Of course, you were required to drive one of them if you were from Lansing, but even when I went out of state, I saw them all over the place. They were up and down the East Coast, all over the Mid South and even around Vegas, California and the Southwest, I would guess almost everybody of the right age would have some personal memories involving a Cutlass Supreme from this era. (Also in Michigan, the mid '70s Cutlasses were abundant well into the '90s) I doubt that we ever will see a kit of these, but it sure would catch some attention if it were released. Lots of different things happened to these cars during their lifetimes too. Nascar, Drag racing, Lowriders, street machines. People did everything to these cars over their heyday. I remember when the local drag strips were just full of them. I had a '86 Mustang and a '70 Cougar, but even the 5.0 Mustangs were outnumbered by these Cutlasses most days at Central Michigan and Ubly. I saw a nice '85 at a show last year, restored to original condition. They aren't from the classic muscle car era, but they are 30 years old and they were one of the most popular performance cars of the malaise era.

Actually, Art, Michigan does tax business property forever. Businesses are assessed a "personal property" tax. on everything they own, no matter how long they have had it. This is in addition to the sales taxes and the depreciation is not completely figured in. We used to keep a few vintage items on display in our shop, (like our first typewriter, and our first Mac) but we had to pay taxes on them at max prices. Eventually we scrapped them. Now, Michigan just voted down the law, so this practice is ending, but it was certainly in place back when the model companies were based here, so they would have had additional reason to get rid of surplus tooling. I think we are the only state that does this. Frankly, I'm glad to see it gone.