Greg Myers Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 For a '70 Charger.With Both Revell / Monogram and AMT having some tooling that would lend itself to the 1970 Dodge Charger. Seems like a great marketing opportunity.
gbdolfans Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) I think AMT already did a charger for the series.Had a blower coming out of hood. I hear it was pretty bad. Edited April 3, 2015 by gbdolfans
dartman Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 I like the stuff they do on "Fat & Furious" better .Hey now,I resemble that remark....
ZTony8 Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) The Toyota and Mitsubishi released from the movie series by AMT have two of the worst examples of engines ever put in a kit.The Toyota twin turbo is supposedly plumbed incorrectly while the Mitsubishi has the turbo hung off the intake side of the engine without having any connection to the exhaust to drive the turbo setup.It makes you want to just glue the hoods shut and build them as curbsides. Edited April 3, 2015 by ZTony8
Rob Hall Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Would be nice..one of the later movie Chargers, the Daytona, Escort RS, etc would make neat kits *if* the kit maker strove to be accurate.. AMT's attempt at F&F kits a few years back (Mustang, Monte Carlo, Camaro, etc) left a lot to be desired as far as movie car kit replicas... Edited April 3, 2015 by Rob Hall
Greg Myers Posted April 3, 2015 Author Posted April 3, 2015 It's not like they don't have a starting point.
spencer1984 Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Revell's diecast that they released as part of the original The Fast and the Furious license was actually very nicely done, with many of the parts (chassis components, bumpers, etc.) swappable with their plastic kit so it could be upgraded however far you'd like to take it: ...or, you can go the other way and use the grille from the diecast and modify either their '68 or '69 kit:
Luc Janssens Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 I think the licensing and tooling costs, stamps this proposal paper as not lucrative. If it had a great ROI percentage then it would've been tooled up yesterday
unclescott58 Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 Hears a question I don't know if any body has ever asked or answered. I hear a lot of talk about the cost of tooling as being one of the reasons we don't see this or that kit come out. How is it that they seem to be able to make diecast models of a lot of these cars fairly quickly. And not plastic kits? Scott
Luc Janssens Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 Hears a question I don't know if any body has ever asked or answered. I hear a lot of talk about the cost of tooling as being one of the reasons we don't see this or that kit come out. How is it that they seem to be able to make diecast models of a lot of these cars fairly quickly. And not plastic kits? Scott Because there are far more people and kids who like models, but don't want to build, don't think Diecast kits were a success either. And creative kids use Lego and the like, to express themselves, maybe due to the fact that building a model kit, is a one way street, once build it just sits there and deteriorate over time (mom cleaning) Lego can be disassembled and the parts can be used to build something else, dunno just guessing
Bill J Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 I have seen some of the actual movie cars at a museum in Branson, MO. They looked ok but worked hard. Not a bad modeling subject I reckon. As far as the movies go, they are ridiculous in all aspects. Nonsense to me. I am a car guy and always have been but I fail to see the point of the F&F movies and plots. Guess I am getting older.
High octane Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 Bill, while the F & F movies may never be academy award winners, they do make MONEY and that is the bottom line.
unclescott58 Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 Because there are far more people and kids who like models, but don't want to build, don't think Diecast kits were a success either. And creative kids use Lego and the like, to express themselves, maybe due to the fact that building a model kit, is a one way street, once build it just sits there and deteriorate over time (mom cleaning) Lego can be disassembled and the parts can be used to build something else, dunno just guessing Please reread my question. You answer does not really cover what I'm asking. Scott
Luc Janssens Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 Please reread my question. You answer does not really cover what I'm asking. Scott More buying power means, truckloads of funds coming in, which can be a lubricant for licensing negotiations , makes a larger R&D team possible, which leads to shorter development times, etc, etc....
Nick Notarangelo Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 the AMT one was the dukes car with a blocky nose attachment to make it look like the 69-70 charger, yeah lets just forget about how bad it was
johnbuzzed Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Maybe it's because the audience appeal/demographics involved with those movies is not of the model-building variety? I might have seen parts of the first movie; I sure as heck wouldn't buy any of the kits that have been produced and sincerely doubt that I would buy any that might be released in the future. In my opinion, there are many more "historical" movie cars that should be produced in styrene (not including any of the DOH kits).
Greg Myers Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 The missing link in the '68-'70 series Dodge Chargers being the 1970 model the same as the F&F movie tie in would give Revell / Monogram a double edge sword to attack this.
Tonioseven Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I'm still trying to understand why it's labeled as a '70 when the doors look like '68/'69 doors.
Matt T. Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I bet Revell releases a '70 Charger R/T in the next couple of years. (No inside knowledge here, just my gut.)
om617 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 When you see the 5000 threads started about the subject we can hope they take the hint.
Joe Handley Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Maybe it's because the audience appeal/demographics involved with those movies is not of the model-building variety? I might have seen parts of the first movie; I sure as heck wouldn't buy any of the kits that have been produced and sincerely doubt that I would buy any that might be released in the future. In my opinion, there are many more "historical" movie cars that should be produced in styrene (not including any of the DOH kits). Just because you have no interest doesn't mean the rest of us don't, I kinda wish the AMT kit of the Eclipse Walker drove in the first movie had a decent engine, I really wouldn't mind a modern domestic 4 cylinder (it had the 2.0l Dodge Neon engine in it, IIRC) in kit form, and the other musclecars would make great kits too, even if you had no interest in the imports.
johnbuzzed Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Well, I have one each of the original Revell Acura and Civic kits, and have a WIP Brookfield Guild 4-door Neon curbside, so I can appreciate a well-done tuner. Maybe it's just the movie(s) and the premise(s) that turn me off. Maybe I'm just getting old and crochety
Greg Myers Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 but there is a market there just the same, just because some of us old curmudgeons don't care for it. and an enduring youth market at that.
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