Snake45 Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 Those of us who've been around awhile know that most of the original AMT molds either got made into "next year's model," got turned into a dirt tracker or funny car, or became the basis for some kind of wild custom. Pretty much everything else has been reissued ad nauseum over the last 20 or 30 years.There have been some pleasant surprises in the last decade, though: Most of the original first-gen AMT funny cars, and a few of the MPC funnies, for examples. The biggest and most welcome surprises for me have been the Malco Gasser Mustang, the Manx/TeeVee dune buggies, and the UNCLE Piranha.There are rumors that the AMT '64 Cutlass funny could still be reissued. What else might still be around--stuff we haven't seen for a LOOOOOOONG time?Sonny & Cher Mustang, maybe? I think there might be a couple other custom Mustang and Corvette kits not seen since back in the day, too. I can't think of what might have happened to the MPC '66 Bonneville molds, either.What else?
oldcarfan Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 I would love it if they would/could do a census on all the molds. Take them out and see just what is there. Maybe they already have, I don't know. The other thing I wish they could explore is doing what Polar Lights did years ago with the old Universal Monsters and retool molds based on an original copy.
1930fordpickup Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 If I understand correctly they have hanger shots of all of the working molds. They are also going through all of the molds to decide what is usable and what is not. This was stated a year ago but they are not going to release a list of what is usable. This is an ongoing process that may not be done for another year. As far as the 64 Cutlass funny car . If it had an altered wheel base no such luck of a release anytime soon. The chassis was not found.
Luc Janssens Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Not that important...What is, is what molds can be operational with minimal costs and turn a good profit.Let say for instance the tooling for the Amt '68 Ford Galaxie is in their inventory, but the inserts are pitted due to bad storage and will cost as much, or more to refurbish, or re-tool (copying a vintage kit), as the expected profit that kit would turn, if released.Would love to have a face to face brainstorm with the decision makers at Round-2 and a couple of engineers, but very unlikely.;^)
disabled modeler Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Would be really cool if they could re-issue the old 66-69 Bonnevilles and a 70 HT version....but there is tons of others Id be very happy to see again and would buy..some multiples of....I have a ton of ideas for possible re-issues that would be great to have back out.
Dave Van Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 What Luc said........What is there does not matter as much as condition.......if usable it will be run at some point.
bandit1 Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Well I wonder if anyone has heard anything on the t-500 pete 359 cali hauler molds whether they found the sleeper box and what shape it was in and all?
Snake45 Posted December 25, 2015 Author Posted December 25, 2015 What Luc said........What is there does not matter as much as condition.......if usable it will be run at some point.I think we all know that. What I'm wondering is, what molds might maybe possibly still exist? In other words, what might we possibly still be pleasantly surprised with on the order of the Manx or Piranha?
Luc Janssens Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) Well I wonder if anyone has heard anything on the t-500 pete 359 cali hauler molds whether they found the sleeper box and what shape it was in and all?IMHO from a commercial standpoint (selling the dream of being free, driving the hi-and byways in the US as 20th century cowboy) it would've been better to release that kit, as it was in the second edition with sleeper (box art looks better too, again IMHO, I got both originals), but since that didn't happen, I believe the tooling for the sleeper is missing,or demands too much work, or even a complete retool.Also, does it sell well in the US, or is it a shelf sitter.Luc Edited December 25, 2015 by Luc Janssens
Dave Van Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 I think we all know that. What I'm wondering is, what molds might maybe possibly still exist? In other words, what might we possibly still be pleasantly surprised with on the order of the Manx or Piranha? Yes......I'd love to have a firm list of all tooling, complete or not, to see what is out there. It'd be great fun.....that would serve no purpose for R2 at all. In fact it could almost be harmful......so we will all have to just wait, or have fun speculating, on what is out there.........besides.....I do not think ANYONE knows 100% what is out there. Think along the lines of the AMT 34 Ford pick-up kit. Lost....then found and 'claimed' by another, at the time, manufacture. There is a good possibility of old tooling sitting in the storage area of a tool shop somewhere.
tim boyd Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Snake....last I heard, there is one mold (or enough of it left to make a kit reissue possible) that is actually in Round 2's tentative 2016 release plan. It's a kit that was only ever released once and then was only in production for less than a year. It's one we've heard that was retooled to a much different product, or. alternatively, permanently scrapped. Obviously, I am not authorized to reveal the subject, but assuming the plan to make it production ready plays out as envisioned, it's gong to blow away a lot of people. And if so, like the T500 California Hauler and several others mentioned above, it will once again reinforce the phrase "never say never" when it comes to the Round 2 tooling bank and the team that is harvesting these model tools and making them usable again....TIM
Snake45 Posted December 25, 2015 Author Posted December 25, 2015 we will all have to just wait, or have fun speculating, on what is out there......... And that is the very point of this thread!
Luc Janssens Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Snake....last I heard, there is one mold (or enough of it left to make a kit reissue possible) that is actually in Round 2's tentative 2016 release plan. It's a kit that was only ever released once and then was only in production for less than a year. It's one we've heard that was retooled to a much different product, or. alternatively, permanently scrapped. Obviously, I am not authorized to reveal the subject, but assuming the plan to make it production ready plays out as envisioned, it's gong to blow away a lot of people. And if so, like the T500 California Hauler and several others mentioned above, it will once again reinforce the phrase "never say never" when it comes to the Round 2 tooling bank and the team that is harvesting these model tools and making them usable again....TIM Hmm... Lemme take a guess...The Kenworth Challenge Mixer?
Junkman Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 A '60 Mercury hardtop, now that I spent a lot of money on a builder with a cracked roof pillar.
disabled modeler Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Id be right on the Kenworth Challenge mixer kit...it was awesome as a kid..! here is a few others Id love to see or find...69-72 Grand Prix...(even the custom one called Super Fly).69,71,72,73 Impala/Caprice.Universal Dune Buggy Jeep kit with 1/2 cab options.60-63 Ford pickups.70s Ford Modified race team set...pickup/trailer and early modified dirt track car.71,72 Pontiac Sprint IImaybe MPCs old Mild and Wild series kits with the 2 in 1 or 3 in 1 options?the AMT Craftsman series kits.
High octane Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 With me aging every year, and the amount of kits I'd like to build that are already in my "stash," what molds that are already in storage and can possibly be used for re-issued kits is of little value to me.
Snake45 Posted December 25, 2015 Author Posted December 25, 2015 Id be right on the Kenworth Challenge mixer kit...it was awesome as a kid..! here is a few others Id love to see or find... 69-72 Grand Prix...(even the custom one called Super Fly). 69,71,72,73 Impala/Caprice. Universal Dune Buggy Jeep kit with 1/2 cab options. 60-63 Ford pickups. 70s Ford Modified race team set...pickup/trailer and early modified dirt track car. 71,72 Pontiac Sprint II maybe MPCs old Mild and Wild series kits with the 2 in 1 or 3 in 1 options? the AMT Craftsman series kits. THAT's what I was looking for--some specific ideas that we can then discuss! THANK YOU! I THINK the AMT '69 Impala molds became the '70, so that one's out. Or am I wrong about that? Many of the AMT Craftsmans have either been reissued, or turned into racers and whatnot (like the '66 Skylark). Can you think of any specific examples that don't fall into either category? What happened to the first-gen Corvair molds--were they ever altered?
1972coronet Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Here's a few long shots :- 2 wheel drive suspension from the 1978 Chevy Stepside- 1975 Duster body (the Annual , not the pending race car version)- Ford E-100 (last issued in c.1981)- 1979 Nova- 1975-1977 Matador (stock , AMT)- 1975-1977 Pacer (stock , AMT)- Monza (stock , Annual)- 1988 & Later C1500
disabled modeler Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 With me aging every year, and the amount of kits I'd like to build that are already in my "stash," what molds that are already in storage and can possibly be used for re-issued kits is of little value to me.You must have a nice stash then.Snake...I do not believe the early Corvair molds were ever modified to my memory. AMT made 2 versions of the Factory stock 66 Buick Skylark...one a curbside and the other a full detail kit..I have both but they both need parts to restore them...Id buy ether version if they were re-issued most likely many of them. A lot of builders do not like the curbsides or snaps or promo like kits...to me they have loads of potential and worth the time...I love them myself always looking for more. Maybe they could re-issue the old Craftsman kits as a quick build or snapfast plus like line..??? Id buy them. I believe the mold AMT re-tooled of the 66 Buick Skylark was the full detail glue kit one...maybe they have the other one still..? Their 70 Buick Wildcat was a hit...I should have gotten more of them.
Junkman Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 AMT:The '64 Comet Caliente and '64 Galaxie were actually in the Craftsman series and have seemingly survived unscathed.My holy grails of the Craftsman series are the wagons - '60 Chevy and '63 Nova. I'd like to see the entire series back, though.I'd also like to see all the other "Junior" series of kits that were based on promo tools, including the Flower Power series.I think it was in the latter we last saw a '62 Galaxie?I want those cars, I don't care about engines, let alone correctly positioned, true to scale throttle return springs.Also, the '67 and '68 Galaxies and all other annuals which might have survived intact.1/16 T'birds and Chevies1/12 Cord MPC:70-76 Firebirds/Trans Ams.7X CamaroLate 60s - early 70s Jeep Commando/Jeepster7X Dodge Pick Up'65/'66 Dodge Monaco'74 Dodge ChallengerDodge Charger III show car'71/'72 Plymouth Satellite (Roadrunner)All* the Cudas/Barracudas'69 ImpalaWhatever Caprices have survived (possibly only the '76 anyway)'7X Chevy VegaAll* the El CaminosAll* the post '73 Chevy Pick Ups and Blazers (Fall Guy anyone?)Ford Pinto and Pinto WagonAll* the Bonnevilles'75 Pontiac SprintCosma RayMannix RoadsterHarry Bradley "The Californian"All* Toronados1970 Mercury Cyclone1st Gen. Cougar1/8 Schwinn bicycles, Honda ATC 90, Bronson Hardly Dangerous,1/12 Fonz and his bike, Ski Doo, Shaker Trike, 3+3 Chopper, Boss BikeDo they still have the 1/24 Airfix tools for the Aston Martin DB5/DB6?Same for the Toyota 2000GT roadster?*With "All", I mean for which the tooling still exists/is useable. Did I forget anything?
bandit1 Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 IMHO from a commercial standpoint (selling the dream of being free, driving the hi-and byways in the US as 20th century cowboy) it would've been better to release that kit, as it was in the second edition with sleeper (box art looks better too, again IMHO, I got both originals), but since that didn't happen, I believe the tooling for the sleeper is missing,or demands too much work, or even a complete retool.Also, does it sell well in the US, or is it a shelf sitter.Luc And if so, like the T500 California Hauler and several others mentioned above, it will once again reinforce the phrase "never say never" when it comes to the Round 2 tooling bank and the team that is harvesting these model tools and making them usable again....TIM Well I know for sure the cali. hauler has lately been reissued for I have three of em and about to finish one soonthe sleeper is what I'm concerned about for id like to get my hands on one to just look at and know what they look like and maybe build one for fun? O.o Also I'd like to see the 67-72 c10 truck kits get reissued as well from the first 67 to the last 72 and all years b/w mainly for grill and build options... wonder what happened to all that tooling for those to?
High octane Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 You must have a nice stash then.Snake...I do not believe the early Corvair molds were ever modified to my memory. AMT made 2 versions of the Factory stock 66 Buick Skylark...one a curbside and the other a full detail kit..I have both but they both need parts to restore them...Id buy ether version if they were re-issued most likely many of them. A lot of builders do not like the curbsides or snaps or promo like kits...to me they have loads of potential and worth the time...I love them myself always looking for more. Maybe they could re-issue the old Craftsman kits as a quick build or snapfast plus like line..??? Id buy them. I believe the mold AMT re-tooled of the 66 Buick Skylark was the full detail glue kit one...maybe they have the other one still..? Their 70 Buick Wildcat was a hit...I should have gotten more of them.I've been "down sizing my" my stash for the last couple of years, and I may not be done yet. I'm being more realistic 'bout how many kits I'm going to build and actually finish. Besides I'm tired of trading ca$h for plastic, only to have the kits sit on a pile and grow bigger with every purchase.
StevenGuthmiller Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 AMT:including the Flower Power series.I think it was in the latter we last saw a '62 Galaxie? I would imagine that there may be hope for the kits in this series at least.The molds obviously survived at least until the series was released, (early 70s?)That would include kits like the '62 Ford hardtop as well as the '59 Buick, '60 Bonneville & '60 Mercury.I don't remember what else was in the series, but I think that there could be real hope for these. Steve
lordairgtar Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 I'd love to see the Howmet turbine coupe back and maybe the ZZR Spy Car too.
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