Rdkingjay Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 Greetings gents,Anyone have any good tips/results with making molded in chrome headlights look more realistic? Perhaps a paint trick or something else? I always hate seeing these, rather than separate clear lenses. Thanks in advance for any help.
MrObsessive Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 This isn't a perfect solution Jay, but I've used something called "Faskolor" (a paint for Lexan bodies) and they have a "Faspearl White". I've used this on headlights, and it gives them a kind of frosted look which to me looks like headlight lenses. Here's a '59 Buick I built 10 years ago and I painted the headlights with this................... I'm not sure if it's sold in your area-------I've had the same bottle for years and the paint is still good. Hope this helps!
RAT-T Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 I'VE SEEN THINNED ELMERS GLUE USED, LOOKED PRETTY GOOD
mike 51 Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 as above ...Elmer's glue or very thin flat white paint look much better than chrome to me,but niether look as good as separate clear lenses unfortunately.
Chariots of Fire Posted August 25, 2017 Posted August 25, 2017 Bill Geary's solution looks pretty realistic. I just might look for some of that paint. The alternative, of course is to drill the headlights out and put in some clear lenses. The only kicker is that you will have to figure out a way to back the lenses up with other stock so that they look right. The stock can be painted with silver paint. After the paint is dry use clear epoxy to set the lens. That way the silver paint will not soften and run.
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 25, 2017 Posted August 25, 2017 If you're thinking of drilling them out, you can use plastic tubing & sheet finished with Molotow pen for the tubs & you can cast your own lenses with mold putty & Laser Bond glue. It sounds pretty involved, but it's not once you get a system down. Steve
Dodge Driver Posted August 25, 2017 Posted August 25, 2017 I have questions about the actual drilling part of headlight modification. How is the hole kept centered? What is the best way to not ruin parts?I'm thinking of using an end-cutting reamer to create a lip for the lens to sit in. Following that, perhaps a ball-nose end mill to create a round bottom bucket. Am I over-complicating this as I tend to do?
Foxer Posted August 25, 2017 Posted August 25, 2017 I've searched for many years for a tool that would make drilling a hole centered in a circular rod, or headlight as you are. I even started the question here, though I can't find that one. I've settled on using a set of brass tubes that allows me to have the outer tube that will surround the outer rod diameter and the close fit inner brass tubes that go down the an ID the same as the drill bit used to drill the hole. a few links I did find ...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 25, 2017 Posted August 25, 2017 I have questions about the actual drilling part of headlight modification. How is the hole kept centered? What is the best way to not ruin parts?I'm thinking of using an end-cutting reamer to create a lip for the lens to sit in. Following that, perhaps a ball-nose end mill to create a round bottom bucket. Am I over-complicating this as I tend to do?I just carefully ream mine out with a variable speed dremel on a lower speed with various sized reamer bits.Don't have to find the center, I just ream them until I get very close to the bezel lip & then finish with a round file. Steve
Dodge Driver Posted August 26, 2017 Posted August 26, 2017 I just carefully ream mine out with a variable speed dremel on a lower speed with various sized reamer bits.Don't have to find the center, I just ream them until I get very close to the bezel lip & then finish with a round file. SteveSteve, what type of reamer do you use? I have access to multiple style reamers and want to choose the correct one. Thanks!
Dodge Driver Posted August 26, 2017 Posted August 26, 2017 I've searched for many years for a tool that would make drilling a hole centered in a circular rod, or headlight as you are. I even started the question here, though I can't find that one. I've settled on using a set of brass tubes that allows me to have the outer tube that will surround the outer rod diameter and the close fit inner brass tubes that go down the an ID the same as the drill bit used to drill the hole. a few links I did find ... Thanks Mike, that tool is of great interest to me.
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 26, 2017 Posted August 26, 2017 Steve, what type of reamer do you use? I have access to multiple style reamers and want to choose the correct one. Thanks! Actually, I usually drill out a small "pilot hole" with a drill bit as close to the center of the lens as I can. Then I go to work with a cone shaped reamer bit with a base that is larger than the hole will be. When I get close to the bezel edge I stop & do the same with the back side of the grille if possible. Then I do as much clean out & fine work as necessary with a smaller straight bit of some sort. These are the bits that I usually use. The fine ball shaped bits are for very fine work if needed. I finish up with a round file & sanding sticks. This is the bumper from my '67 Bonneville that I will be using soon, after drilling out & re-plating. Steve
Dodge Driver Posted August 26, 2017 Posted August 26, 2017 Thank you kindly for the photos and information Steve. I really appreciate it!I'll definitely pick up some of those cone shaped cutters.
ChrisBcritter Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 This isn't a perfect solution Jay, but I've used something called "Faskolor" (a paint for Lexan bodies) and they have a "Faspearl White". I've used this on headlights, and it gives them a kind of frosted look which to me looks like headlight lenses. I'm not sure if it's sold in your area-------I've had the same bottle for years and the paint is still good. If not, there are four listings for Faspearl White on eBay right now. Thanks for the tip, Bill!
Rdkingjay Posted August 28, 2017 Author Posted August 28, 2017 Thanks for all your tips men. I have a few extra grills for my '63 ford that I can practice these techniques on.
Jantrix Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Bill, if this was posted by anyone but you I'd call BS and swear those are clear lenses.
MrObsessive Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Bill, if this was posted by anyone but you I'd call BS and swear those are clear lenses. Thanks Rob! I consider that a real compliment!
BigTallDad Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 What if you took a picture of a "real" headlight, sized it accordingly, and printed a decal to fit over the kit headlight?
peteski Posted August 29, 2017 Posted August 29, 2017 IMO, the problem with simulating headlights by any means other than having a chromed reflector and a clear faceted lens is that it will lack the depth and sparkle of what a headlight should look like to your brain. If you want an ultra-realistic looking model you need to go the extra mile and make a scale version of the real headlight.
Snake45 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 What if you took a picture of a "real" headlight, sized it accordingly, and printed a decal to fit over the kit headlight?Some of the late '60s funny cars had airbrushed headlights on them that looked quite realistic. Unfortunately, the illusion only works from one particular viewing angle. View it from any other angle and it will look flat and wrong. Doing it from head-on might still look better than all-chrome headlights, though. I might have to try it.
Super28 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 This isn't a perfect solution Jay, but I've used something called "Faskolor" (a paint for Lexan bodies) and they have a "Faspearl White". I've used this on headlights, and it gives them a kind of frosted look which to me looks like headlight lenses. Here's a '59 Buick I built 10 years ago and I painted the headlights with this................... I'm not sure if it's sold in your area-------I've had the same bottle for years and the paint is still good. Hope this helps! This rates right up there with the "roll up windows' and "hand made engine pulleys". Just amazing, as usual. Thanks. Your great!
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