What would YOU like to see as a model

[iamsuperdan]

The kits I would want to see are not neccessarily ones that the rest of the modelling world would purchase!

 

1968 Fury III convertible. - we had one of these when I was in high school. Was one of the cars I learned to drive in.

 

1978 Ford Thunderbird. My first car. Have always wanted a kit of this, but the only one i've ever seen is an awful 1/32 Lindberg kit.

 

Late 70s Ford boat. I love these big old ugly things! Pic is an LTD II, but any late 70s boat would be great. Country Squire, LTD, Caprice, Fury, whatever. It's all good!

 

Late 70s Dodge trucks. Especially in Power Wagon form!

 

Modern pickups. we don;t need more late 60s Fords or GMs. Let's see something built in the last five years! New Ram trucks, new GMC/Chev trucks. Anything! Well...anything but Ford. Ha!

 

Modern SUV. Again, modern vehicles. I'm tired of seeing 60s muscle cars, 50s cars, hot rods, and junky reissues. I want modern vehicles.

 

And what I think would actually be a sure fire hit, a chassis cab. In this case, 2018 Ram 5500. Imagine how great that would be to have an actuall proper chassis cab we could build on!

 

 

A couple of other things:

2013+ Dodge Challenger - something with the current interior, especially in Hellcat or Hellcat Widebody form!

Semi trucks build after 1980. Again, vintage trucks are only slightly interesting, and have been done to death. Let's see some more modern era trucks.

 

Again, I know these wouldn't be the most popular choices, so I wouldn't realistically expect any of these to go into production, but I can dream.

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2017 by iamsuperdan

[Junkman]

Apart from that newfangled tosh, I'd buy them all.

[iamsuperdan]

2 hours ago, PARTSMARTY said:

There are way too many too list but to keep it simple-

"anything mopar-anything at all".

Somebody might know but why don't we have a hellcat or demon.It would seem like a no-brainer.

Is there some kind of licensing issue-does anybody know?

You nailed it!

FCA is notorious in the industry for their rules and demands when it comes to licensing. Frustrates the dealers, as diecasts of older product are huge, and demand for new diecast is massive. But it's not happening. 

[Junkman]

Is anyone from the Italeri brass reading this forum?

 

 

 

 

[Reegs]

I second the Cheetah, but throw in some extras so's I can make it a /MSP.

And it would be nice to get some of the American 'off' brands. Early iron anything other than a Ford (there are plenty of those). GMs, Mopars, Mercs from the '50s. Anything from the '60s - as long as it isn't a re-issued promo with the blob undercarriage and molded-in seats. Hey, howzabout a Javelin? Make 'em all 2-in-1s, too. Street/strip/oval/custom or bone stock for those poor rivet counters.

Hey, I can dream, can't I? 

Oh, and all 1/25 (my fantasy, my rules).

Edited December 4, 2017 by Reegs

[Richard Bartrop]

4 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

These would surely be big sellers too...

                                                     

                                                                                                       

I don't know about big sellers, but I'd buy the bottom three for sure.

[#1 model citizen]

4 hours ago, iamsuperdan said:

You nailed it!

FCA is notorious in the industry for their rules and demands when it comes to licensing. Frustrates the dealers, as diecasts of older product are huge, and demand for new diecast is massive. But it's not happening. 

I always find licensing a curious thing. While I understand the car companies would want their products accurately depicted, and I guess collecting their dime for use of intellectual property, it seems a lot of it is like free product promotion and they would be eager to encourage product development of items such as models & toys. After all, as some of us older folk remember, the car companies use to to commission the model companies to to produce models to used as promotional tools.

[iamsuperdan]

33 minutes ago, #1 model citizen said:

I always find licensing a curious thing. While I understand the car companies would want their products accurately depicted, and I guess collecting their dime for use of intellectual property, it seems a lot of it is like free product promotion and they would be eager to encourage product development of items such as models & toys. After all, as some of us older folk remember, the car companies use to to commission the model companies to to produce models to used as promotional tools.

I guess they look at licensing as a cost. And at the end of the day, why would they pay to produce promo models, when eventually they'll find a company to pay them ridiculous amounts of money to do it for them!

 

[Richard Bartrop]

1 hour ago, #1 model citizen said:

I always find licensing a curious thing. While I understand the car companies would want their products accurately depicted, and I guess collecting their dime for use of intellectual property, it seems a lot of it is like free product promotion and they would be eager to encourage product development of items such as models & toys. After all, as some of us older folk remember, the car companies use to to commission the model companies to to produce models to used as promotional tools.

As the song goes, that was yesterday, and testerday's done.  The car companies still want to promote their stuff to the young, though the emphasis seems to be on video games rather than models.

As far as licensing goes, it's not just about models.  They're also looking at things like this:

[Ace-Garageguy]

2 hours ago, Richard Bartrop said:

I don't know about big sellers, but I'd buy the bottom three for sure.

  Seriously....now that I think about it, it seems that aircraft and particularly armor kit producers offer some really oddball, unusual and absolutely fascinating subjects. 

The model car producers, however, seem to prefer mostly the same old subjects that they seem to think will have mass appeal, and are therefore safer economic risks.

It must cost a LOT more to research and tool to produce a HIGHLY ACCURATE and HIGHLY COMPLEX kit of something that only 1 or 2 of still exist in reality, in little ol' 1/35 scale (that requires very fine detail engraving and lotsa tiny parts to look right) than it takes to do another ho hum US car that can be found just about anywhere with a little effort.

What's the deal? Why the extreme difference in the perception of the market for car-model builders and other subjects?

[glusnifr]

a 55 or 57 gmc pick up

[highway]

3 hours ago, Reegs said:

 

And it would be nice to get some of the American 'off' brands. Early iron anything other than a Ford (there are plenty of those). GMs, Mopars, Mercs from the '50s. Anything from the '60s - as long as it isn't a re-issued promo with the blob undercarriage and molded-in seats. Hey, howzabout a Javelin? Make 'em all 2-in-1s, too. Street/strip/oval/custom or bone stock for those poor rivet counters.

 

Even though I think I'm far from it, I guess that makes me a "poor rivet counter" because I prefer to build stock vehicles. 

[Richard Bartrop]

The name of the topic is "What would YOU like to see as a model",  not "What do you think will be the next hot seller".  I just put down what I like, and if other people think they might want one, great.  I make no pretense of speaking for "everyone".

The topic of car models vs everything else did come up at a model show, where4 it was mostly armour and planes, and hardly any cars, and the reason I got was that they had no interest in building something they saw on the street every day.  

The hobby does seem to be split into "car modelers" and "everyone else", and a lot of people on this side do seem more interested in reliving their childhood than building models, but it's not even that cut and dried.,  The Japanese seem to do a healthy business selling models of exotics, so clearly not everyone wants to build just whatever dad owned back in '72.   The diecast market is selling all sorts of oddball stuff, where they not only have to pay for moulds, but someone to put it together too.

Maybe it's just the nature of forums like this.   We like to associate with people who share our interests, and we end up just reinforcing our opinions.

[JeroenM3]

On 3-12-2017 at 11:32 PM, unclescott58 said:

What is it? Ugly IMO. 

make: Spyker

Model: C8 Laviolette

Small dutch car manufacturer, Last geneva show they showed the public their new engine... its only to be produced by Koenigsegg though, so that should be something to look forward too. I doubt Koenigsegg would sell them engines if they are really a dead fish in the water.... Also, dont forget this car was launched in 2003 or 2004. For back than this thing was a looker! shame america has so many health and safety rules, causing Spyker to mount a hideous steering wheel compared to how they initially launched their car...

2 minutes ago, Richard Bartrop said:

The name of the topic is "What would YOU like to see as a model",  not "What do you think will be the next hot seller".  I just put down what I like, and if other people think they might want one, great.  I make no pretense of speaking for "everyone".

The topic of car models vs everything else did come up at a model show, where4 it was mostly armour and planes, and hardly any cars, and the reason I got was that they had no interest in building something they saw on the street every day.  

The hobby does seem to be split into "car modelers" and "everyone else", and a lot of people on this side do seem more interested in reliving their childhood than building models, but it's not even that cut and dried.,  The Japanese seem to do a healthy business selling models of exotics, so clearly not everyone wants to build just whatever dad owned back in '72.   The diecast market is selling all sorts of oddball stuff, where they not only have to pay for moulds, but someone to put it together too.

Maybe it's just the nature of forums like this.   We like to associate with people who share our interests, and we end up just reinforcing our opinions.

Well said, with most of the stuff i see posted here i just think "wow what an old boring crappy cars" but thats just my personal opinion, simply because im no fan of american cars (sorry) and i dont like old cars.. However its nice to see what people like. I mainly build exotics, that way i can own those cars, instead of having to earn millions to afford a huge storage space to park the real stuff  

[aurfalien]

On 12/3/2017 at 7:59 AM, Greg Myers said:

Ok, here's a few in my line up. let me know if you need help identifying any of them. 

 

Hi, there is a Volki 1/24 slot kit version of this car I believe.

 

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HRM has this one in 1/24, I bought myself one.

 

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MFH has a 1/24 full detail of which I bought one.  Also Profile24 has a nice curb side of it as well.

Edited December 4, 2017 by aurfalien

[426 pack]

8 hours ago, iamsuperdan said:

The kits I would want to see are not neccessarily ones that the rest of the modelling world would purchase!

 

1968 Fury III convertible. - we had one of these when I was in high school. Was one of the cars I learned to drive in.

 

1978 Ford Thunderbird. My first car. Have always wanted a kit of this, but the only one i've ever seen is an awful 1/32 Lindberg kit.

 

Late 70s Ford boat. I love these big old ugly things! Pic is an LTD II, but any late 70s boat would be great. Country Squire, LTD, Caprice, Fury, whatever. It's all good!

 

Late 70s Dodge trucks. Especially in Power Wagon form!

 

Modern pickups. we don;t need more late 60s Fords or GMs. Let's see something built in the last five years! New Ram trucks, new GMC/Chev trucks. Anything! Well...anything but Ford. Ha!

 

Modern SUV. Again, modern vehicles. I'm tired of seeing 60s muscle cars, 50s cars, hot rods, and junky reissues. I want modern vehicles.

 

And what I think would actually be a sure fire hit, a chassis cab. In this case, 2018 Ram 5500. Imagine how great that would be to have an actuall proper chassis cab we could build on!

 

 

A couple of other things:

2013+ Dodge Challenger - something with the current interior, especially in Hellcat or Hellcat Widebody form!

Semi trucks build after 1980. Again, vintage trucks are only slightly interesting, and have been done to death. Let's see some more modern era trucks.

 

Again, I know these wouldn't be the most popular choices, so I wouldn't realistically expect any of these to go into production, but I can dream.

 

 

 

I agree with almost every thing we need more modern trucks and cars.

the old power wagon would be cool to.

Edited December 4, 2017 by 426 pack

[Richard Bartrop]

BoS Models 1/18 Pegaso die-cast .  Looks like at least one company thinks Pegasos are worth cutting a set of moulds.

And of course there was Ideal's Pegaso kit way back in the day.

Edited December 4, 2017 by Richard Bartrop

[Mr mopar]

this is what I would like to see in kit form ?

[Richard Bartrop]

And it turns out there are die casts of the Stout Scarab and the Leyat Helica (the propeller car) on the market,  but in 1/43

[ranma]

Three that I'd like to see be kitted

[StevenGuthmiller]

9 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

These would surely be big sellers too...

                                                     

                                                                                                       

Holy smoke!!!

Now there's an exercise in ugly!!

 

 

Steve

[StevenGuthmiller]

Here are 3 very easy conversions of existing kits that I would love to see.

 

Moebius 1956 Chrysler 300 into a 1956 Desoto Firflite convertible/ pace car.

 

Revell 1959 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz/ Seville into a 1960 Caddy Eldorado Biarritz/ Seville.

 

 

AMT 1957 Chrysler 300 into a 1957 Desoto Fireflite.

 

 

In my opinion, these are all "no brainers" & I'm surprised that some of them haven't been done already, especially the '60 Cadillac.

 

 

Steve

[#1 model citizen]

3 hours ago, Richard Bartrop said:

As the song goes, that was yesterday, and testerday's done.  The car companies still want to promote their stuff to the young, though the emphasis seems to be on video games rather than models.

As far as licensing goes, it's not just about models.  They're also looking at things like this:

I realize licensing extends far beyond models but that is what we're discussing here. And although I don't play & rarely view video games that very thought popped into my head as I was typing my last post! 

[Richard Bartrop]

I know I'm contradicting myself, but this is what my dad had in '72, and I could definitely go for a new kit or reissue of this:

[Richard Bartrop]

7 minutes ago, #1 model citizen said:

I realize licensing extends far beyond models but that is what we're discussing here. And although I don't play & rarely view video games that very thought popped into my head as I was typing my last post! 

The point is that as far as they're concerned, there's a lot more at stake than just models, and in they have to choose between keeping the modelers happy, and jeapordizing the revenues from all their other licensing, guess who loses out?