martinfan5 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, iamsuperdan said: Just wait. This is the Trail Boss trim level. The SIlverado will also have LS, LT, and LTZ trim levels, all of which will have chrome bumpers, grilles, and/or door handles! Yeah, I know, I was just saying I think the all black fits the overall truck better than the all the faux chrome , just my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: I'd buy this. I'd even sell off a couple of other vehicles to do it. Put a little shorter rubber on it, I'd be a happy guy. And it looks like it wouldn't mind getting all muddy. You know, there is supposedly a pickup version of the new JL Wrangler, if somebody offers that NuKaiser style nose for it, you could probably do the conversion on it youself with minimal issues! You could even buy a used 4dr JK and make it a Scrambler style Jeep Truck, then that pic is probably something UAV put together, they offer a more traditional style pickup conversion for TJ and JK Wranglers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Joe Handley said: You know, there is supposedly a pickup version of the new JL Wrangler, if somebody offers that NuKaiser style nose for it, you could probably do the conversion on it youself with minimal issues! You could even buy a used 4dr JK and make it a Scrambler style Jeep Truck, then that pic is probably something UAV put together, they offer a more traditional style pickup conversion for TJ and JK Wranglers. 2019 is suppose to be the model year and will debut in 2018 sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 43 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: I'd buy this. I'd even sell off a couple of other vehicles to do it. Put a little shorter rubber on it, I'd be a happy guy. And it looks like it wouldn't mind getting all muddy. My opinion of course, the wheels/tires dont really fit the overall look, maybe a lower sidewall profile tire and it would look better, so long on short of it, I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Van Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/17/2017 at 11:58 AM, ranma said: Please No!!!! It looks to much like a FORD!!!!!!!!!! AND made of nasty aluminum too!!!!! Oh the horrors!!!! Full disclosure I have a 16 F-150 and love it....but do think GM could be more original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xingu Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Some of you will notice that there are a lot of posts that have been removed. If you guys cannot get along, you may need to find another place to frequent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 44 minutes ago, Dave Van said: AND made of nasty aluminum too!!!!! Oh the horrors!!!! Full disclosure I have a 16 F-150 and love it....but do think GM could be more original. How much of it is aluminum vs plastic or steel. If I were them, I'd look at a steel bed with easily replaced plastic bed sides and tailgate outter skin, ala Cameo and Sportside trucks as well as aluminum hood and plastic front fenders and maybe door skins, ala Saturn. 1 hour ago, martinfan5 said: 2019 is suppose to be the model year and will debut in 2018 sometime. Ah, that's right, couldn't remember when that was to hit! 1 hour ago, martinfan5 said: My opinion of course, the wheels/tires dont really fit the overall look, maybe a lower sidewall profile tire and it would look better, so long on short of it, I agree with you. I'd keep the sidewall profile, but go with a shorter rim and tire that is closer to stock diameter but wider than what ever is stock, I'd probably look at a Rubicon to base it off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Joe Handley said: I'd keep the sidewall profile, but go with a shorter rim and tire that is closer to stock diameter but wider than what ever is stock, I'd probably look at a Rubicon to base it off of. That could work too, maybe a little bit wider tire/wheel, it looks way too much like a train or stagecoach wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, martinfan5 said: That could work too, maybe a little bit wider tire/wheel, it looks way too much like a train or stagecoach wheel. I think tjat's the problem, they went for the tall and skinny Army Truck Tire look, but the extra skinny Bro-Truck wheels and tires that look more Deuce and a Half sized vs Jeep and Light Truck sized throw it off, something about the right size for a Rubicon, or next size taller and wider would look better, especially with the stock car style steelies that many Jeepers like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Joe Handley said: I think tjat's the problem, they went for the tall and skinny Army Truck Tire look, but the extra skinny Bro-Truck wheels and tires that look more Deuce and a Half sized vs Jeep and Light Truck sized throw it off, something about the right size for a Rubicon, or next size taller and wider would look better, especially with the stock car style steelies that many Jeepers like. I am going to agree with this . I do think wider with the taller would look soooo much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, martinfan5 said: I am going to agree with this . I do think wider with the taller would look soooo much better. Looks like the stock size is 255/75R17 and those are about 32" or so tall, I would probably stay with a 17" rim and the stock diameter or see what is slighy taller and wider, but within reason in an A/T tire, or a touch more aggressive if I was converting a Rubicon and still planned on using it as one after the work was done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Joe Handley said: Looks like the stock size is 255/75R17 and those are about 32" or so tall, I would probably stay with a 17" rim and the stock diameter or see what is slighy taller and wider, but within reason in an A/T tire, or a touch more aggressive if I was converting a Rubicon and still planned on using it as one after the work was done 17 inch rim, yes, that would be a good size to stick with, darn, 32" tall, wow, I was not thinking they would be that tall. Edited December 20, 2017 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 9 hours ago, iamsuperdan said: The problem with trucks now (and most vehicles for that matter) is that they are overstyled. Too many crease and curves and edges. Crazy shapes on grilles and lights. Needlessly complex. I think Lexus is the worst offender for that. As for the wheel well gaps, this particular truck is the Trail Boss trim level, meaning it's the "offroad" edition, therefore has a factory lift. The standard GM half tons are significantly lower. In fact, the half tons from all manufacturers are quite low, with very little wheel well gap visible. The HD trucks are a different story all together. Sorry Dan, but I still disagree. 2-wheel drive and 4-wheel drive versions of trucks have bodies that are unnecessarily too high (typically 6-8"). The only trucks that should have bodies high off of the tires are empty 1-ton, 4-wheel drive, and that is only so a heavy load will compress the HD springs to provide a correct load height. The standard GM trucks are not significantly lower - not the Colorado, not the larger Chevy or GMC. It's the same with the other brands I was considering buying a Colorado, but the body is ridiculously high in all configurations. Look at a 2-wheel drive GM truck prior to 1973 and you will see what I'm talking about. ACE had it right about compensating for something. It's supposed to look bad-ass and aggressive, but like I said, who wants to look at the fuel and brake lines, inner wheelhouse, and other stuff that shouldn't be seen unless you are under a truck or have it on a hoist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, martinfan5 said: 17 inch rim, yes, that would be a good size to stick with, darn, 32" tall, wow, I was not thinking they would be that tall. I know, the 235/75R15's on my XJ are around 28", but food for thought, the 235/50ZR18 BFG's I have on my 200 are around 27" tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsuperdan Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Joe Handley said: You know, there is supposedly a pickup version of the new JL Wrangler, if somebody offers that NuKaiser style nose for it, you could probably do the conversion on it youself with minimal issues! You could even buy a used 4dr JK and make it a Scrambler style Jeep Truck, then that pic is probably something UAV put together, they offer a more traditional style pickup conversion for TJ and JK Wranglers. 5 hours ago, martinfan5 said: 2019 is suppose to be the model year and will debut in 2018 sometime. The JL Jeep Wrangler goes into production early in 2018 as a 2018 model. The JL truck goes into production in fall as a 2019, should be here in about a year. It will look more like the AEV Brute than the NuKizer concept. https://www.aev-conversions.com/vehicles/brute-double-cab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, iamsuperdan said: The JL Jeep Wrangler goes into production early in 2018 as a 2018 model. The JL truck goes into production in fall as a 2019, should be here in about a year. It will look more like the AEV Brute than the NuKizer concept. https://www.aev-conversions.com/vehicles/brute-double-cab That's what I said, I just didnt say "truck" but I thought it was clear that is what I was talking about Edited December 20, 2017 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsuperdan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 So it was a big day around here yesterday. The Detroit auto show is in full swing, and the 2019 Silverado made it's full debut yesterday. I like the specs, I like the tech, I'm on the fence about that front end. I think the Trail Boss trim level works for me, but the other trim levels? Umm... https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1114795_2019-chevrolet-silverado-video-preview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I'll have to wait until I can go to the Chicago Auto Show next month, But I'm not liking the nose on the new Silverados so far and I'm on the fence with the new Ram and refreshed KL Cherokee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan White Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 6 hours ago, iamsuperdan said: So it was a big day around here yesterday. The Detroit auto show is in full swing, and the 2019 Silverado made it's full debut yesterday. I like the specs, I like the tech, I'm on the fence about that front end. I think the Trail Boss trim level works for me, but the other trim levels? Umm... https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1114795_2019-chevrolet-silverado-video-preview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spex84 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'm kind of amazed at how both Toyota and Chevy have now both adopted the same "tech" styling that Ford was doing in 2010 and earlier. RAM still stands apart in their form language, for better or worse. So here's my annual sneak peek doodle of what these trucks will look like in another couple years: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I've been drivin' Chevy trucks for almost 40 years and needed a change. Glad I picked up a new FORD in 2016, as I'm really likin' it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldawg142 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) ..... Edited May 9, 2018 by dieseldawg142 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 GM is still making trucks for the masses, no matter how ugly. Even under Fiat, RAM just gets design and isn't afraid to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspective Customs Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 12/18/2017 at 7:12 AM, ranma said: GM 's Idea makes the truck look like Ford's. Pontiac basically made a reboot of the Edsel Which actually looked better than the fore mentioned Edsel. Chevrolet fails with the '19 pickup though! Oh snap! I never noticed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspective Customs Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I'm not liking this along with some of Chevy's other designs like the Equinox. Too many pointless creases along the body. Certainly not for aerodynamics. Same for the Malibu and to some extent, the Impala. They're just looking more and more like appliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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