afx Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Looking for help identifying these wheels, kit origin and/or 1:1 manufacturer and style. #1-can't make out the marking on the grease cap #2 #3 - marked "AAE" on the grease cap #4 #5 - appears just to be a molding mark on the grease cap.
Casey Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, afx said: #2 - Revell '69 Yenko 427 Camaro #3 - Ansen Apollo: #4 - Are these four lug wheels? 14" and 13"? They look like MPC Pinto or Mustang II wheels.
pack rat Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 #1-MPC '73 Duster (maybe others too) #3-AMT 67/68 Impala annual #5-AMT 64 or 65 Imperial (all guesses based on memory)
Snake45 Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 #1 look quite a bit like ET drag wheels, but not an exact match. Close enough that I'd use 'em on the rear of something, though.
afx Posted January 5, 2019 Author Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Casey said: #4 - The outside diameter is 16.8 mm which would work out to around a 15" wheel. They are 4-lug.
afx Posted January 5, 2019 Author Posted January 5, 2019 Looks like Scenes Unlimited offers #3 - Ansen Apollos
Oldcarfan27 Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 #1 - looks like the back wheels from the MPC Street rods of the 70s. #2 - looks like the Revell 69 Yenko Camaro or 32 Ford street rod wheels. #4 - I'd say MPC Pinto, however they look like they have 8 lugs. But if you say they're 4 lug then I'll take your word for it. #5 - looks like the caps from the Johan 63 Fury, but that's just a guess.
Bucky Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) #5 looks very much like these: 1964 Imperial The center section of these wheel covers were painted in body color. Edited January 7, 2019 by Bucky
Bucky Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 I zoomed your pic of the #5 wheels. The center cap looks like the Imperial eagle emblem. I checked my '64 Imperial kit, and they look identical to what's in the box.
Casey Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) JC, what does the backside of wheel #2 look like? I took a pic of the wheel I have which I *think* is from the 1/25 Revell '69 Yenko 427 Camaro kit, but the plastic underneath appears to be a much brighter yellow than I recall the original issue being molded in. I still think that's the source, but not as confident now. I also found a wheel identical to the five-slot, four-lug you posted, along with the (I think) Pinto and/or Mustang II AMT or MPC 14" or 13" wheel I was thinking of (third from left, below), so I can't help much on the I.D.: Edited January 11, 2019 by Casey
Mark Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 #4 are from the MPC "Convoy Chaser" '76 Dart. Don't ask me why they are eight lug. #3 are from the AMT '67 (original annual) Impala kits (hardtop and convertible), and the "for '68" "Chevrolet SS 427" which was the '67 Impala with the stock parts deleted and the rear window opening filled in (!).
afx Posted January 11, 2019 Author Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Casey said: JC, what does the backside of wheel #2 look like? I took a pic of the wheel I have which I *think* is from the 1/25 Revell '69 Yenko 427 Camaro kit, but the plastic underneath appears to be a much brighter yellow than I recall the original issue being molded in. I still think that's the source, but not as confident now. I also found a wheel identical to the five-slot, four-lug you posted, along with the (I think) Pinto and/or Mustang II AMT or MPC 14" or 13" wheel I was thinking of (third from left, below), so I can't help much on the I.D.: Casey, #2 looks like the far right wheel in your top photo and the backside looks like what you posted above. #4 looks like the far left wheel in your top photo. It has 4-lugs along with 4 exposed bolts holding on the grease cap.
jaftygas Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 On 1/5/2019 at 11:03 AM, afx said: #4 - The outside diameter is 16.8 mm which would work out to around a 15" wheel. They are 4-lug. Actually there is .040 of an inch to a mm and .040 of an inch per inch in 1:25 scale. So it’s more like 17” rim.?
afx Posted September 3, 2023 Author Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, jaftygas said: Actually there is .040 of an inch to a mm and .040 of an inch per inch in 1:25 scale. So it’s more like 17” rim.? The outer bead of the rim typical adds 1.5" to the wheel diameter. You can confirm this on your 1:1 car.
jaftygas Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, afx said: The outer bead of the rim typical adds 1.5" to the wheel diameter. You can confirm this on your 1:1 car. I see what you’re saying. It’s just when you get to being 25 times smaller on anything it starts getting lost in translation. I would never measure a wheel by the outer lip.
afx Posted September 3, 2023 Author Posted September 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, jaftygas said: I see what you’re saying. It’s just when you get to being 25 times smaller on anything it starts getting lost in translation. I would never measure a wheel by the outer lip. 1mm is approximately 1" scale inch, that is significant to my eye particularly in wheel diameter.
jaftygas Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) True. There is exactly.03937 thou to a millimeter so rounding to .040 is more than accurate. I guess what I’m trying to say is if the wheel is measured by the very outer rim at 16.8, then minus 1.5, would equal 15.3, and yes it would be a 15 inch rim in scale, and I was just not reading where they measured the rim. I’m agreeing with you. 16 minutes ago, afx said: 1mm is approximately 1" scale inch, that is significant to my eye particularly in wheel diameter. 16 minutes ago, afx said: 1mm is approximately 1" scale inch, that is significant to my eye particularly in wheel diameter. Edited September 3, 2023 by jaftygas
peteski Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 7 hours ago, jaftygas said: I see what you’re saying. It’s just when you get to being 25 times smaller on anything it starts getting lost in translation. I would never measure a wheel by the outer lip. But that is the visible diameter of the 1:1 rims. Rims of majority of the models are not accurate replicas of the 1:1 tire and rim. Model rims do not have lip. So visual diameter is what we use for models. The diagram afx posted is correct. If you were to use the diameter of the 1:1 tire bead, your model would not have accurately scaled wheels..
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