Ace-Garageguy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 In case some of you guys don't know who Pico is, or why it's particularly exciting that he is doing a Goose, he's the guy who did this one... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitchdup Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 this might help, http://carblueprints.info/eng/prints/de_tomaso/marcos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurfalien Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Nice a$$; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Pico said: This is a copy of the Polish plans that I consider to be inaccurate. Sorry I posted. Just trying to be helpful, I'll try to remember not to do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 57 minutes ago, stitchdup said: this might help, http://carblueprints.info/eng/prints/de_tomaso/marcos Ooooh! Thanks for that link! I see some other VERY interesting things there! DEFINITELY bookmarked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitchdup Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, MrObsessive said: Ooooh! Thanks for that link! I see some other VERY interesting things there! DEFINITELY bookmarked! its a handy site but uses a little artistic licence on some of the images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Can-Con said: Sorry I posted. Just trying to be helpful, I'll try to remember not to do it again. Don't get your feelings hurt. Trying to be helpful is fine. So is saying the information is bad. Which it is. Truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 In regards to that blueprints link...........for us 'rivet counters' out there, this is GREAT for printing out a body shape for example, scale it to 1/25 and do any tweaks or changes that may not be quite right. I'm looking over several cars (Corvettes for instance) and a couple side profiles are well............not quite to my liking. STILL a great site! 2 minutes ago, stitchdup said: its a handy site but uses a little artistic licence on some of the images Yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) This is far FAR better than the earlier drawing. I know these cars very well, and this actually looks like a Mangusta. Edited January 25, 2019 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Don't get your feelings hurt. Trying to be helpful is fine. So is saying the information is bad. Which it is. Truth. That's fine. I suspect he could have said it in a better way like you did Bill. But, anyway, as they say "Live and learn". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pico Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Well, I'll be darned. I assumed that the drawing was redrawn from the Polish one and was the same, but it's not. There are slight differences, I'll compare it to photos and known dimensions. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pico said: Well, I'll be darned. I assumed that the drawing was redrawn from the Polish one and was the same, but it's not. There are slight differences, I'll compare it to photos and known dimensions. Yessir. The upper drawing above is from the first page of this thread, and is, I believe, from the "Polish" source. The lower drawing, which looks pretty right much better to me, is from the carbluprints.info site. Very different proportions, lines, and details. Compare the carblueprints drawing to this...much closer to right with the exception of some subtle differences, including the top of the "vent" window, the base of the windshield, and the forward roofline. The rear roofline isn't quite right either. It's actually several gently blended curves, not the continuous curve that's usually portrayed in drawings. And the real Goose windshield has a little more curvature at the bottom than at the top...visible in the photo (as the base of the windshield is forward of the pillar bases). I once had one of these in my shop that had been punched in the LF corner hard enough to displace the base of the pillar rearward (some "restoration" chimps had glued the windshield in with several tubes of silicone, because the fit was so terrible...and shortened the front of the door-shell too; pretty impressive workmanship) and I became VERY familiar with what's going on shapewise with these cars as a result. "Correct" Mangustas do, unfortunately, exhibit a very slight nose-up attitude, like the blue car below. And like Panteras, they are NOT symmetrical side-to-side. Edited January 25, 2019 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Actually Bill, those "wrong" drawings are from the carblueprints site also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Can-Con said: Actually Bill, those "wrong" drawings are from the carblueprints site also. Hmmmmm...that's interesting. And that's why I was griping earlier about people putting up stuff on the web that's supposed to be "reference" material that is in actuality gooey, smelly, brown stuff. I don't mean you. You reasonably assumed published "reference" material would be correct, and tried to help. Which is admirable. Unfortunately, NEITHER drawing is 100% accurate, though the lower one (above) is better, and both are close enough to be instantly recognizable as "Mangusta" (but the front and rear views are awful...not really very close at all). A more correct rendition of the car would use elements from BOTH drawings...which is pretty weird. We went through something like this about Porsche 904s not too long ago as well, and the published "reference" drawings were off by a mile...which I pointed out and made a few people mad in the process. This garbage data obviously creeps into kit design too, where there's not an anal-retentive design consultant available (or thought to be not necessary) and the kit designers, not really "car guys" to the extent that some of us are, just assume too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitchdup Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Unfortunately, NEITHER drawing is 100% accurate, though the lower one (above) is better, and both are close enough to be instantly recognizable as "Mangusta" (but the front and rear views are awful...not really very close at all). you dont want to see how bad the third version on the car blueprints site is, it could be anything with a similar shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Saw this picture with the back open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahshu Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) Just found out that Mangusta means Mongoose. Mongoose's kill cobras. Edited February 2, 2019 by Yahshu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959scudetto Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 30.1.2019 at 11:31 PM, vamach1 said: Saw this picture with the back open. Looks like the factory prototype: open Weber carbs, glass roof insert, missing rear hood vents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 From a book I bought in the 1980’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 1/18/2019 at 2:22 PM, john sharisky said: Man, I've been looking for the SMP24 Mangusta everywhere. John This one might cost a small fortune but it’s the real thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark10 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 https://www.carandclassic.com/classic_cars.php?keyword=mangusta&make=2168&sort_1=latest&year_from=1965&year_to=1975&search you can find a lot of usefull Mangusta pictures in those auctions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959scudetto Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) a cheap solution: reworked/refined Politoys 1/25 die-cast Mangusta with Fujimi wheel/tire- combination mimicking the original Campagnolo wheels: Edited June 21, 2023 by 1959scudetto 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeRS Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Come on Fujimi, Hasegawa, Tamiya or Aoshima. Please do us a 1/24 kit of these. We already have plenty of Panteras, Miuras and 512BBs so why not a Mangusta? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Porter Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 10 hours ago, beeRS said: Come on Fujimi, Hasegawa, Tamiya or Aoshima. Please do us a 1/24 kit of these. We already have plenty of Panteras, Miuras and 512BBs so why not a Mangusta? At the moment, De Tomaso is owned by the Hong Kong based venture capital firm Ideal Team Ventures. They also own Apollo Automobil, the former Gumpert company. I would imagine that because of this the current owners might not be as easy to work with in terms of licensing as previous holders of the De Tomaso name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_3D_Customs Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 If anyone has an smp kit, I have a scanner, I am sure that I can work something out with somebody who wants to print bodies and sell them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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