Bob Ellis Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 With a 70% reduction of Chinese industry until February10, some kits may not arrive until much later than expected. Human suffering is something not to be ignored, so the kits are less important than people.
HomerS Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Agreed. It's reaching areas one wouldn't expect. Watching the Buffalo Sabres game last night the announcer was commenting about concerns for hockey sticks being made in China.
slusher Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 With the sickness in China I am surprised shipments from China has not been halted until it gets better...
Bucky Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, slusher said: With the sickness in China I am surprised shipments from China has not been halted until it gets better... While not related to model car kits, a merchant in my town has cancelled a couple meetings with Chinese vendors, which has caused his inventory to be a little thin. That could very well happen to model kit vendors and manufacturers, as well.
Exotics_Builder Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 Well, the Hobby Design/Alpha Models folks are in that Province. They posted that all are well but things appear closed for a couple of weeks as this runs its course.
1930fordpickup Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) No need to spread what does not need to be spread, for plastic. I have plenty here for now. Edited February 9, 2020 by 1930fordpickup
slusher Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, 1930fordpickup said: No need to spread what does not need to be spread, for plastic. I have plenty here for now. I totally agree.
Classicgas Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 6 hours ago, slusher said: I totally agree. Same here. Unfortunatly I ordered a chin strap before the outbreak that is coming from China. That thing is getting a liberal dose of Lysol when it gets here.
hpiguy Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) The Coronavirus cannot survive weeks on a ship stuck to a hockey stick or a chin strap or in bubble wrap. This is all ignorant fear mongering by those that never paid attention in science class. https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/infections/how-long-do-bacteria-and-viruses-live-outside-the-body/ The issue with kit shipments may happen, but the rest is simply not going to happen. Edited February 9, 2020 by hpiguy
hpiguy Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Classicgas said: Well the ships are run by what??? People. You cannot catch a virus because some Chinese guy packed a trailer and stuck it on a boat. IF (big if) you ordered an overnight package from China and a sick guy coughed phlegm inside the package, sealed it, and kept it near body temp for the entire trip and you opened it and licked it, maybe. And the risk of that is so low it's not even worth considering.
slusher Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 3 hours ago, hpiguy said: The Coronavirus cannot survive weeks on a ship stuck to a hockey stick or a chin strap or in bubble wrap. This is all ignorant fear mongering by those that never paid attention in science class. https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/infections/how-long-do-bacteria-and-viruses-live-outside-the-body/ The issue with kit shipments may happen, but the rest is simply not going to happen. There is nothing with anyone being careful about a deadly illness. Your a rude guy.
hpiguy Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, slusher said: There is nothing with anyone being careful about a deadly illness. Your a rude guy. Facts and science do matter. This is the third time you've gone out of your way to insult me just because you don't know something and you take people using facts and science as an insult to you personally.. Maybe it would be better if you just used the ignore button on my profile if facts and real science upset you that much. Ok? Thanks.
keyser Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, slusher said: There is nothing with anyone being careful about a deadly illness. Your a rude guy. He's not rude. He's trying to calm hysteria. Viruses DON'T work that way. EVER. I've been a pulmonary/critical care doc for 30yrs. Humans get it from each other, initial cases like SARS and MERS were animal to human. There are tons of coronaviruses out there. Few are evil. This strain is evil, but it's people spreading it. It kills, but flu kills more each year. No shot yet, but rapid test developing, deployed in few places so far. Getting a flu shot (dead virus particles so you won't become sick from it) more important than this. I don't have immune system, and I fly to NIH is Bethesda and Johns Hopkins in Baltimore. I am concerned, but I still fly. You're not getting anything from a package/kit/guy who packed whatever.
Richard Bartrop Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) Really, if you live in North America, you're more at risk from flu. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm If you really want to worry about something, maybe think about how many Amazon/UPS/Fedex employees, or for that matter anyone you've come in contact with, have decided that they didn't need to take off a sick day. Edited February 9, 2020 by Richard Bartrop
Classicgas Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 There isn't a freaking thing wrong with using a little common sense.
slusher Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, hpiguy said: Facts and science do matter. This is the third time you've gone out of your way to insult me just because you don't know something and you take people using facts and science as an insult to you personally.. Maybe it would be better if you just used the ignore button on my profile if facts and real science upset you that much. Ok? Thanks. I have no problem with science. Your a rude guy and your really a jerk and you enjoy it. So this is as far I am going with it.
Classicgas Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, hpiguy said: Facts and science do matter. This is the third time you've gone out of your way to insult me just because you don't know something and you take people using facts and science as an insult to you personally.. Maybe it would be better if you just used the ignore button on my profile if facts and real science upset you that much. Ok? Thanks. For what it's worth, you are being rude to those of us that aren't doing a darn thing wrong. Maybe you should take a hike yourself.
Classicgas Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, keyser said: He's not rude. He's trying to calm hysteria. Viruses DON'T work that way. EVER. I've been a pulmonary/critical care doc for 30yrs. Humans get it from each other, initial cases like SARS and MERS were animal to human. There are tons of coronaviruses out there. Few are evil. This strain is evil, but it's people spreading it. It kills, but flu kills more each year. No shot yet, but rapid test developing, deployed in few places so far. Getting a flu shot (dead virus particles so you won't become sick from it) more important than this. I don't have immune system, and I fly to NIH is Bethesda and Johns Hopkins in Baltimore. I am concerned, but I still fly. You're not getting anything from a package/kit/guy who packed whatever. So now you're a doctor. Let's see some credentials.
Richard Bartrop Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Classicgas said: There isn't a freaking thing wrong with using a little common sense. Which I believe was hpiguy's point.
Rob Hall Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, hpiguy said: Facts and science do matter. This is the third time you've gone out of your way to insult me just because you don't know something and you take people using facts and science as an insult to you personally.. Maybe it would be better if you just used the ignore button on my profile if facts and real science upset you that much. Ok? Thanks. Exactly...the problem is a lot of people today are deeply ignorant, have no comprehension of science, and are resistant to facts...
Classicgas Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, Richard Bartrop said: Which I believe was hpiguy's point. No. His point is we are stupid for doing some things just to cover ourselves. Sorry but science and medicine is not the end of knowledge. Things happen all the time that confound both. That'd is no crime in using things like masks, Lysol or other things in the face of so called science.
slusher Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: Exactly...the problem is a lot of people today are deeply ignorant, have no comprehension of science, and are resistant to facts... Rob, we was also implying the people working over there. Nothing was wrong with science but he was being rude and a jerk. I already have one unpleasant conversation with him. I have always been nice on this forum. Do I deserve to be talked down to...
slusher Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 This is a new disease and everything is not known about it yet. It started in a Walmart in an open air market with meat...
hpiguy Posted February 9, 2020 Posted February 9, 2020 I never called anyone stupid. Do you know the difference between ignorance and stupidity? Being ignorant of a subject does not mean you are stupid. People talk about facts and science and you instantly think they are implying you are stupid out of nowhere.... A really odd reaction. ig·no·rant lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about a particular thing. stu·pid having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.
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