JollySipper Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 I've been kinda reading around online about this. The theory that we are living in an elaborate simulation, like a computer program. Here's the wiki about it.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis One thing that could be proof of this, is that there is a 'speed limit' in space (the speed of light). The program needs time to 'load', thus the speed limit...... Also, it's said that anything we aren't looking at and can see directly isn't really there at all, which would save on memory. What do you guys think of this?
Fat Brian Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 I think quantum entanglement puts that theory to rest. Linking particles and having the movement of one affect another seems like it would eat a ton of memory in a simulation. 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) On 4/22/2022 at 2:55 AM, Fat Brian said: I think quantum entanglement puts that theory to rest. Linking particles and having the movement of one affect another seems like it would eat a ton of memory in a simulation. Expand Assuming, of course, that quantum entanglement is a "real" phenomenon, and not just the appearance of something "real" happening. Consider the number of particles involved in displaying a moving picture on a 2-dimensional screen, compared to the number of particles involved in the "real" 3-dimensional environment the 2D display represents. Not a very precise or particularly apt analogy, but you probably get my drift. PS: My cat's middle name is Schrödinger. Edited April 22, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy 1
Fat Brian Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 3:32 AM, Ace-Garageguy said: Assuming, of course, that quantum entanglement is a "real" phenomenon, and not just the appearance of something "real" happening. Consider the number of particles involved in displaying a moving picture on a 2-dimensional screen, compared to the number of particles involved in the "real" 3-dimensional environment the 2D display represents. Not a very precise or particularly apt analogy, but you probably get my drift. PS: My cat's middle name is Schrödinger. Expand That is true. I mean, how many subatomic particles are we actually trying to measure at any one time. Faking something like that wouldn't take much.
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) Then there's another way to look at it. A sufficiently powerful "simulation" machine could well take an infinite amount of "memory" and computing power. Think of the reflection of a mirror in a mirror as the "simulation", and reflections that go on to infinity... Again not a very good analogy, but...hmmmmm. Edited April 22, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy
Fat Brian Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 3:52 AM, Ace-Garageguy said: Then there's another way to look at it. A sufficiently powerful "simulation" machine could well take an infinite amount of "memory" and computing power. Think of the reflection of a mirror in a mirror as the "simulation", and reflections that go on to infinity... Again not a very good analogy, but...hmmmmm. Expand Yeah, I honestly try not to think about stuff like this. I have enough real life problems without causing myself undue existential dread.
Oldcarfan27 Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) On 4/22/2022 at 1:45 AM, JollySipper said: What do you guys think of this? Expand I think you need to lay off the corn jug for a while. Jolly Sipper!!! Edited April 22, 2022 by Oldcarfan27
Matt Bacon Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 Take the blue pill, dude. You don't want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes... best, M.
JollySipper Posted April 22, 2022 Author Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 3:32 AM, Ace-Garageguy said: a moving picture on a 2-dimensional screen Expand I believe that's how whoever created this is seeing us, as 2D. On 4/22/2022 at 6:14 AM, Oldcarfan27 said: I think you need to lay off the corn jug for a while. Expand It WAS just 4/20 Wednesday........
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) On 4/22/2022 at 4:09 AM, Fat Brian said: Yeah, I honestly try not to think about stuff like this. I have enough real life problems without causing myself undue existential dread. Expand Depending on whose version of the "truth" you subscribe to, everything that defines 21st century civilization is subject to the constant fear-mongering "existential threat" bleating. But I always tend to consider the source when I see hysterical headless chickens running in circles, waving "the sky is falling" flags. Still, perception is everything. On a quantum level, there is no reality that can be easily grasped by our tiny little minds anyway, so take the sage's advice: "Don't Worry; Be Happy". "Don't Panic" is also good advice. And always know where your towel is. Finally, remember that the answer to everything is 42. Or not. Edited April 22, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) On 4/22/2022 at 1:38 PM, JollySipper said: I believe that's how whoever created this is seeing us, as 2D. Expand I sometimes have a hard time believing that an entity capable of creating this would have intentionally created so much stupid, but maybe that's just part of the Cosmic Joke. Edited April 22, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy TYPO 1
afx Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 Regardless of who is creating our reality there are people on earth trying to manipulate what we each perceive to be reality. 2
1972coronet Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 1-2-3-4, More, More, More, More by Don Landis.
Little Timmy Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 So you are all just figmants of my imagination .... Or ... did I program you all wrong .... Now my brain hurts ...
Mike C. Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 1:38 PM, JollySipper said: I believe that's how whoever created this is seeing us, as 2D. It WAS just 4/20 Wednesday........ Expand ?
restoman Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 In all my years of inhaling polyester filler dust, paint fumes, and the spring-like pure air of Sarnia's Chemical Valley, there are two universal truths that I've arrived at: No one will ever solve the mystery of how they get the soft-flowing caramel inside the Caramilk Bar, and the only Absolute is that nothing is Absolute. So, let's have a Fresca. 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 12:17 PM, restoman said: ...the only Absolute is that nothing is Absolute. Expand Except for stupid, and the absolute certainty that it can't be fixed. 1
Lunajammer Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 2:32 PM, Ace-Garageguy said: On a quantum level, there is no reality that can be easily grasped by our tiny little minds anyway, Expand Which is what makes the lottery possible. I've always maintained that if people could actually, mentally comprehend the odds of winning a national lottery, it would cease to exist. 1
peteski Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 The question is "why?" Why would someone "out there" create such an elaborate simulation? What would be the purpose? Is Earth really spherical or flat? Is universe really infinite? The problem with advancing knowledge and science is that humans now come up with such strange thoughts. Wouldn't' it be better to live in dark ages where our minds wouldn't ponder such unusual theories?
Oldcarfan27 Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 2:43 AM, peteski said: The problem with advancing knowledge and science is that humans now come up with such strange thoughts. Wouldn't' it be better to live in dark ages where our minds wouldn't ponder such unusual theories? Expand Oh they pondered them, they just didn't have the means to make them reality. Now we've been to space, took pictures of the earth and there are people who still believe it's flat!
peteski Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 4:54 AM, Oldcarfan27 said: Oh they pondered them, they just didn't have the means to make them reality. Now we've been to space, took pictures of the earth and there are people who still believe it's flat! Expand I doubt anybody even understood what a "simulation" is back in the middle ages. As for Flat Earthers, that just goes to show us hoe messed up Homo Sapiens species is.
JollySipper Posted April 25, 2022 Author Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 2:43 AM, peteski said: Is universe really infinite? Expand The Universe isn't infinite....... and Ours isn't the only one. It is, however, expanding outwards from the center faster than light speed.
peteski Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 3:33 PM, JollySipper said: The Universe isn't infinite....... and Ours isn't the only one. It is, however, expanding outwards from the center faster than light speed. Expand And this info came from a very reliable source, and it has been verified.
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