Trends

[1972coronet]

11 hours ago, imarriedawitch said:

Neighbor had his Mercedes wrapped with a satin finish and it looks amazing.

I've seen that as well. Like anything else, it comes down to:
- Quality of product
- Proper prep
- Skills of the folks applying the wrap
- Permitting the folks who're applying the wrap the necessary time to do it properly
- Vehicle owner/operator maintenance 

In the climates (yes, plural) of the southwest U.S., the wraps can become compromised in short order: fading, cracking, peeling are most common. However, most of the wear is on commercial vehicles, so I can't comment on personal vehicles' wrap durability.

Thank you for presenting this perspective.

[imarriedawitch]

5 hours ago, Sandboarder said:

Clear coated primer? You mean this colour??

 

 

I can get around most trends when they are built well and understand the trend/influence. 

A few years back the Dodge forums were loaded with guys regretting their recent purchases when they learned that "Destroyer Grey" was coming. Many said they would have waited if they had known.

[Rob Hall]

Just now, imarriedawitch said:

A few years back the Dodge forums were loaded with guys regretting their recent purchases when they learned that "Destroyer Grey" was coming. Many said they would have waited if they had known.

I hate those ugly gray colors...they seem to be everywhere currently...

[iamsuperdan]

There is an inherit problem with the satin finish paints jobs. They're much harder to care for.

A good friend of mine is a manager with the local Mercedes dealer. They have a satin metallic grey that is beautiful to look at. Costs over $10k CDN. 

But, it stains. You get bug guts on it, and it will stain. And if you try to scrubs the bugs off, you'll get a small polished spot where the bug used to be. You cannot polish or rub the paint too much. And good luck matching it should you need to do any repainting. And forget about applying that clear stoneguard film to it. The surface is not smooth, so it won't stick properly, plus it's a totally different texture.

 

 

As for paint colours, that has always been a trend. 

In the 60s there were pastels and non-metallic colours. Coral Red, Mint Green, etc.

In the 70s were metallics. greens, yellows, lots of brown. Plus matching interiors.

In the 80s, it was colour matching everything and loud neon graphics.

In the 90s, it was purples, teals

In the early 00s, silvers and greys took over

Now, non-metallics are back. Plus with the ease of wrapping a vehicle, anything goes now.

Give it time, something new or recycled will come along. And the old men will yell at the clouds again. And the cycle continues.

 

 

As for those lamenting the primer grey that is popular now. Along with the other non-metallic boring colours.

What's old is new again. 

 

Still ugly colours?

[Ace-Garageguy]

13 minutes ago, iamsuperdan said:

There is an inherit problem with the satin finish paints jobs. They're much harder to care for.

A good friend of mine is a manager with the local Mercedes dealer. They have a satin metallic grey that is beautiful to look at. Costs over $10k CDN. 

But, it stains. You get bug guts on it, and it will stain. And if you try to scrubs the bugs off, you'll get a small polished spot where the bug used to be. You cannot polish or rub the paint too much. And good luck matching it should you need to do any repainting. And forget about applying that clear stoneguard film to it. The surface is not smooth, so it won't stick properly, plus it's a totally different texture.

All 100% correct, and apparently never considered by anyone from the design department through to the end purchaser.

[espo]

52 minutes ago, iamsuperdan said:

There is an inherit problem with the satin finish paints jobs. They're much harder to care for.

A good friend of mine is a manager with the local Mercedes dealer. They have a satin metallic grey that is beautiful to look at. Costs over $10k CDN. 

But, it stains. You get bug guts on it, and it will stain. And if you try to scrubs the bugs off, you'll get a small polished spot where the bug used to be. You cannot polish or rub the paint too much. And good luck matching it should you need to do any repainting. And forget about applying that clear stoneguard film to it. The surface is not smooth, so it won't stick properly, plus it's a totally different texture.

 

 

As for paint colours, that has always been a trend. 

In the 60s there were pastels and non-metallic colours. Coral Red, Mint Green, etc.

In the 70s were metallics. greens, yellows, lots of brown. Plus matching interiors.

In the 80s, it was colour matching everything and loud neon graphics.

In the 90s, it was purples, teals

In the early 00s, silvers and greys took over

Now, non-metallics are back. Plus with the ease of wrapping a vehicle, anything goes now.

Give it time, something new or recycled will come along. And the old men will yell at the clouds again. And the cycle continues.

 

 

As for those lamenting the primer grey that is popular now. Along with the other non-metallic boring colours.

What's old is new again. 

 

Still ugly colours?

Your "Old Men Yelling at the clouds" made me laugh, and that describes me, I guess. You mentikon the shops that do the wraps on cars. The local tint shop that I have used for years has all their work trucks wrapped in different colors. The one I like is a late model Ford with a wrap that looks like a blue chromes finish. 

[Mike C.]

I honestly thought that whole "Donk" thing would be over by now. Whenever I would see one of these cars, I was embarrassed for both of us. They usally had very bad music blasting out of them too. ?

[StevenGuthmiller]

4 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Just look at their work. Soulless me-too me-too lookalike trash, most of it, obviously committee-generated overwrought trash.

EDIT: But hey...at least this mess is marginally better than its predecessor.

We used to call this "trying to put lip stick on a pig".

 

 

 

Steve

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, iamsuperdan said:

There is an inherit problem with the satin finish paints jobs. They're much harder to care for.

A good friend of mine is a manager with the local Mercedes dealer. They have a satin metallic grey that is beautiful to look at. Costs over $10k CDN. 

But, it stains. You get bug guts on it, and it will stain. And if you try to scrubs the bugs off, you'll get a small polished spot where the bug used to be. You cannot polish or rub the paint too much. And good luck matching it should you need to do any repainting. And forget about applying that clear stoneguard film to it. The surface is not smooth, so it won't stick properly, plus it's a totally different texture.

 

 

As for paint colours, that has always been a trend. 

In the 60s there were pastels and non-metallic colours. Coral Red, Mint Green, etc.

In the 70s were metallics. greens, yellows, lots of brown. Plus matching interiors.

In the 80s, it was colour matching everything and loud neon graphics.

In the 90s, it was purples, teals

In the early 00s, silvers and greys took over

Now, non-metallics are back. Plus with the ease of wrapping a vehicle, anything goes now.

Give it time, something new or recycled will come along. And the old men will yell at the clouds again. And the cycle continues.

 

 

As for those lamenting the primer grey that is popular now. Along with the other non-metallic boring colours.

What's old is new again. 

 

Still ugly colours?

There's a lot to be said about what you're putting the color on, isn't there.

Put lip stick on a pig, and you just wind up with a pig with lip stick on it.

 

 

 

Steve

[Earl Marischal]

The colour I can't abide is silver metallic. To me, it makes the vehicle look cheap somehow.

A real metallic steel grey is fine and looks classy when done right.

steve

[Mr. Metallic]

14 hours ago, Daddyfink said:

Hey! It's another "Get Off My Lawn" thread! 

Thank you for saying it. I clicked in thinking this would be an interesting topic, but should have known better by now. Seems like every couple of months one of these gets going 

[Ace-Garageguy]

6 hours ago, iamsuperdan said:

...Give it time, something new or recycled will come along. And the old men will yell at the clouds again. And the cycle continues.

 

1 hour ago, Mr. Metallic said:

Thank you for saying it. I clicked in thinking this would be an interesting topic, but should have known better by now. Seems like every couple of months one of these gets going    

Re: "get off my lawn", etc.

Somebody want to explain to me why every thread where anyone voices their opinion that an ugly copycat design trend or some stupid modification based on technical ignorance (like the idiotic donk thing that destroys a vehicles handling and ride characteristics, or the equally stupid extreme camber that also ruins a cars handling and destroys tires rapidly to boot) ALWAYS devolves into bashing old guys?

If it wasn't for old guys, this hobby wouldn't still exist. We're the primary target demographic that model car manufacturers aim for in the US. We spend the most money supporting the hobby. And some of us have forgotten more than most of the "youngsters" will ever know.

So WHY does somebody invariably start in with the snide remarks about age? What's the deal? I'd really like to know.

Edited August 11, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy
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[Rob Hall]

35 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

 

So WHY does somebody invariably start in with the snide remarks about age? What's the deal? I'd really like to know.

Because the older guys are always whining about how anything and everything isn't the same as it was in their warm fuzzy memories of 50-60 years ago or whatever point in the past they long for...gets really old...time passes, the only constant is change, this is 2022...not 1972..can't live in the past. 

[Ace-Garageguy]

2 minutes ago, Rob Hall said:

Because the older guys are always whining about how anything and everything isn't the same as it was in their warm fuzzy memories of 50-60 years ago or whatever point in the past they long for...gets really old...time passes, the only constant is change, this is 2022...not 1972..can't live in the past. 

You know something, Rob? There was just as much stupid and wrong in the world in 1972 as there is now. And I, for one, was somebody who railed against it.

But stupid and tasteless and ignorant know no bounds, and don't care whether it's 2022 or 1922.

 

[keyser]

I used get off my lawn because of the rancor about stuff. I may not like all of it, but its a hobby. Everyone seems xenophobic. Not about old guys. 

People don't like same music, but doesn't make them stupid, or lesser. World full of haters, agree or you're cr@p. 

Lie, say alternative facts. Refusing to consider other views. Opened thread hopeful. Like opening my news feed. 

[imarriedawitch]

30 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

You know something, Rob? There was just as much stupid and wrong in the world in 1972 as there is now. And I, for one, was somebody who railed against it.

But stupid and tasteless and ignorant know no bounds, and don't care whether it's 2022 or 1922.

 

I think you've mentioned it once or twice.

[StevenGuthmiller]

2 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

 

Re: "get off my lawn", etc.

Somebody want to explain to me why every thread where anyone voices their opinion that an ugly copycat design trend or some stupid modification based on technical ignorance (like the idiotic donk thing that destroys a vehicles handling and ride characteristics, or the equally stupid extreme camber that also ruins a cars handling and destroys tires rapidly to boot) ALWAYS devolves into bashing old guys?

If it wasn't for old guys, this hobby wouldn't still exist. We're the primary target demographic that model car manufacturers aim for in the US. We spend the most money supporting the hobby. And some of us have forgotten more than most of the "youngsters" will ever know.

So WHY does somebody invariably start in with the snide remarks about age? What's the deal? I'd really like to know.

And invariably, every time a discussion such as this arises, you always get people who don't want to participate in the conversation, piping up to slam the thread and make sure that everybody knows how stupid they think it is.

For the life of me, I can't understand why, if the discussion is such a turn off, why get involved?

I pass by conversations that I think are stupid or pointless all of the time because I don't find them particularly useful and I have no point of view to add.

If your point of view is that you think the conversation is dumb, there's really no point in participating.

It's not really all that hard.

 

 

 

Steve

[Plowboy]

Old people think new trends are stupid. Young people think old trends are stupid. Life goes on.

[keyser]

Thread is "TRENDS" I didn't click on it expecting negativity. Maybe I'd see something new?

You only like oem. Fine. But that isn't a TREND. So, guess you're guilty as well? 

LOL. 

[Daddyfink]

This thread needs to end the way most threads end around here regardless of the topic , with the discussion about some MOPAR kit they need to make again and how wrong the hub caps are! 

[StevenGuthmiller]

And the OP’s original intent was to analyze new trends and to discuss our likes and dislikes of them.

It appears that the true “get off of my lawn” curmudgeons are those that think the discussion isn’t pertinent, or to their liking, and therefore should be quashed.

apparently “their lawn” is the entire board. ?

 

 

Steve

Edited August 12, 2022 by StevenGuthmiller

[Plowboy]

45 minutes ago, Daddyfink said:

This thread needs to end the way most threads end around here regardless of the topic , with the discussion about some MOPAR kit they need to make again and how wrong the hub caps are! 

Please! Let's not get that topic going! I'd rather read the curmudgeon's hating on anything past 1970. 

[iamsuperdan]

5 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

 

Re: "get off my lawn", etc.

Somebody want to explain to me why every thread where anyone voices their opinion that an ugly copycat design trend or some stupid modification based on technical ignorance (like the idiotic donk thing that destroys a vehicles handling and ride characteristics, or the equally stupid extreme camber that also ruins a cars handling and destroys tires rapidly to boot) ALWAYS devolves into bashing old guys?

If it wasn't for old guys, this hobby wouldn't still exist. We're the primary target demographic that model car manufacturers aim for in the US. We spend the most money supporting the hobby. And some of us have forgotten more than most of the "youngsters" will ever know.

So WHY does somebody invariably start in with the snide remarks about age? What's the deal? I'd really like to know.

 

 

I think what it comes down to is that at the end of the day, we're all complaining about trivial things. We're pretty lucky in that regard.

It's just that old stereotype rearing its head. That the older generations always complain about the younger generations. I'm sure my grandparents did it when my parents were young, my parents did it to me, I'm complaining about kids today.

And really, none of it matters. Car colours, trends, footprints on the lawn, it's all trivial.

 

I can't speak for others, but for myself, my yelling at clouds comments are a Simpsons reference and ALWAYS done in jest and humour. 

 

[Tabbysdaddy]

Today I yelled at some stupid old guy for like 20 minutes before I realized it was a mirror. 

[keyser]

Were you yelling “Mow my lawn?” ???

Steve, as I said repeatedly, I opened thread hoping to learn, enjoy it.  OP had reasonable idea. I complained about rancor. Dave and others have made thread less a bltchfest with the 27 8x10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one…. ???

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by keyser
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