RANDY AYERS NASCAR MODELING FORUMS......

[Volzfan59]

  On 6/26/2024 at 4:52 PM, James2 said:

How did we go from Randy's forum shutting down to all the conspiracy theories? 

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Not sure, but I'm glad that we did. Randy's forum is yesterday's news, I'm learning some stuff.

@Bugatti Fan, what is the name of the show? It sounds interesting.

Edited June 26, 2024 by Volzfan59

[Rob Hall]

  On 6/26/2024 at 4:52 PM, James2 said:

How did we go from Randy's forum shutting down to all the conspiracy theories? 

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As with anything on the internet, many conversations devolve into paranoid conspiracy theories.  Too many bored people I guess. 

Edited June 26, 2024 by Rob Hall

[dwc43]

  On 6/26/2024 at 5:06 PM, Volzfan59 said:

In addition to farcebook, don't have tic tok either. We have a smart TV, but it's not hooked up to the net. I'll tell my wife about the microphone thing. Thank you 

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Welcome anytime. WE noticed it at work on day. Me and friend of mine was talking and his phone kept going off. It was listening to everythng we said and was sending him ads to buy things we were talking about.  OMG moment. RIght. 

[dwc43]

  On 6/26/2024 at 5:15 PM, Rob Hall said:

As with anything on the internet, many conversations devolve into paranoid conspiracy theories.  Too many bored people I guess. 

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It's china listening in to our brain waves and reprograming them and making us buy their cheap junk. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dave Van]

  On 6/26/2024 at 4:52 PM, James2 said:

How did we go from Randy's forum shutting down to all the conspiracy theories? 

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While I am the proud owner of a XL tin foil hat...........

This is NOT copiracy theory. Publshed in all kinds of media, Meta admitted to USING, NOT SELLING, your personal data. They figures that was OK as they were following the letter of the law. They also gave info on how to OPT OUT of the data mining IN THE FUTURE......but your info that is out there is there. 

This was provided to inform.....not scare!!! ALL need to be informed in this age.

Thanks 

[Volzfan59]

Thank you @Dave Van for your insight. The more I have thought about it, the more I realize that this is not a "paranoid conspiracy theory" at all. It's actually timely as the powers that be (or were) at the old Ayer's site seem to have taken great pleasure at herding the sheep to meta/farcebook. My question surrounded actions that are really taking place for farcebook users. Nothing paranoid, definitely not a conspiracy theory as it is actually happening. 

Edited June 26, 2024 by Volzfan59

[James2]

  On 6/26/2024 at 10:54 PM, Dave Van said:

While I am the proud owner of a XL tin foil hat...........

This is NOT copiracy theory. Publshed in all kinds of media, Meta admitted to USING, NOT SELLING, your personal data. They figures that was OK as they were following the letter of the law. They also gave info on how to OPT OUT of the data mining IN THE FUTURE......but your info that is out there is there. 

This was provided to inform.....not scare!!! ALL need to be informed in this age.

Thanks 

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And yet here we are discussing endX in a thread about a model car forums instead of supporting the industry. My point is how easily distracted we are…But I’m sure you haters will find something else to complain about. 

[Johnny Canuck]

  On 6/26/2024 at 10:54 PM, Dave Van said:

While I am the proud owner of a XL tin foil hat...........

This is NOT copiracy theory. Publshed in all kinds of media, Meta admitted to USING, NOT SELLING, your personal data. They figures that was OK as they were following the letter of the law. They also gave info on how to OPT OUT of the data mining IN THE FUTURE......but your info that is out there is there. 

This was provided to inform.....not scare!!! ALL need to be informed in this age.

Thanks 

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Klaatu barada nikto. 

[dwc43]

  On 6/27/2024 at 12:32 AM, James2 said:

And yet here we are discussing endX in a thread about a model car forums instead of supporting the industry. My point is how easily distracted we are…But I’m sure you haters will find something else to complain about. 

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Well, I hated my breakfast burrito this morning. It had too many soggy potatoes at the bottom of it and not enough cheese, but the bacon ratio was pretty good, so not all was lost. 

[James2]

This boring, I’m going outside…

[bobss396]

  On 6/26/2024 at 2:04 PM, dwc43 said:

You have to turn the microphone off on the phone. That's what I did, but it limits other things your phone can do too. Your phone spys on you and so do the new smart tv's. Never hook those things up to the net. They also have a built-in camera in the tv too. There's a lot of stuff spying on us these days and most don't even know it. One more reason they want to get rid of china owned tik tok. You don't think they would spy on us do ya?

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I use a Faraday bag now and then. I give them out to friends too. If I go to the shooting range or gun shops... the phone goes into the bag. If we are talking while out eating and don't have bags handy, we park our phones under a thigh while we talk.

[Chuck Most]

I don't know who's paying attention to what I'm searching for online but man these ads are just hitting too close for me....

Edited June 27, 2024 by Chuck Most

[mikemodeler]

  On 6/26/2024 at 2:04 PM, dwc43 said:

You have to turn the microphone off on the phone. That's what I did, but it limits other things your phone can do too. Your phone spys on you and so do the new smart tv's. Never hook those things up to the net. They also have a built-in camera in the tv too. There's a lot of stuff spying on us these days and most don't even know it. One more reason they want to get rid of china owned tik tok. You don't think they would spy on us do ya?

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Help me out here. You say you have disabled your smart phone and smart TV so they can't spy on you, but you go online to chat in forums and aren't worried about being tracked? Do you surf the internet for hobby related items on your computer? Do you have a rewards card at the grocery store? Gas station? drug store? If you do your buying habits and searches are being recorded for marketing purposes.

[dwc43]

  On 6/27/2024 at 2:31 PM, mikemodeler said:

Help me out here. You say you have disabled your smart phone and smart TV so they can't spy on you, but you go online to chat in forums and aren't worried about being tracked? Do you surf the internet for hobby related items on your computer? Do you have a rewards card at the grocery store? Gas station? drug store? If you do your buying habits and searches are being recorded for marketing purposes.

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No internet on my tv. Nope, can't track a fictious name or place or anything else like that. No rewards at my store that I know of. Even if they did hack it, they would only know someone enjoys building models as a hobby. And if you buy online, use a pre-paid debit card. Not attached to anything, so if they did hack that, they can't get anything and those don't require you name either, or a real name if you want to put one on it. There's always a way to get around the man if you want to. Just ask the serious one that get off the grid and stay off of it. Oh, and never give out your ssn either. No one needs to know that unless it's attached to taxes. If they insist, just make one up. If they don't catch that it's fake, that means it was never entered in any official way, so it was not tracked either.

[Jonathan]

A little back to the discussion about the Ayer's site, and it applies to all of the sites that we frequent, it costs money and time to run and manage a site.  Domain name registration, hosting, storage, maintenance, etc. all requires some time and money.  And it's not once-and-done, really.

I've managed a site for a local church for years as a volunteer.  It takes a little time each week to do the routine stuff - calendar updates, links for the upcoming services, etc.  But, there is also the constant upgrade and maintenance cycle, and the continual need to make sure the site is secure.  And, oh if you make a change to the appearance of the site; then you have to educate the (few) users who my complain that "it's not like it was!".   

It's kind of a hassle, really; but I do it because it helps the church and I find some satisfaction in knowing that I've contributed.  Plus, I do like most of the people there.   

That said, it does take time that I could be using to do something else. 

I can only imagine the headache of running a site where people are allowed to interact with each other - that requires constant monitoring, and there is a lot of helping people actually use the site ("Why won't my image post?", "I don't like the multifactor authentication", etc. sort of things).

So yeah, I hate it, but I can see where a small site dedicated to a portion of a hobby might just throw in the towel and hand it off to facebook.       

[Volzfan59]

  On 6/27/2024 at 2:52 PM, Jonathan said:

A little back to the discussion about the Ayer's site, and it applies to all of the sites that we frequent, it costs money and time to run and manage a site.  Domain name registration, hosting, storage, maintenance, etc. all requires some time and money.  And it's not once-and-done, really.

I've managed a site for a local church for years as a volunteer.  It takes a little time each week to do the routine stuff - calendar updates, links for the upcoming services, etc.  But, there is also the constant upgrade and maintenance cycle, and the continual need to make sure the site is secure.  And, oh if you make a change to the appearance of the site; then you have to educate the (few) users who my complain that "it's not like it was!".   

It's kind of a hassle, really; but I do it because it helps the church and I find some satisfaction in knowing that I've contributed.  Plus, I do like most of the people there.   

That said, it does take time that I could be using to do something else. 

I can only imagine the headache of running a site where people are allowed to interact with each other - that requires constant monitoring, and there is a lot of helping people actually use the site ("Why won't my image post?", "I don't like the multifactor authentication", etc. sort of things).

So yeah, I hate it, but I can see where a small site dedicated to a portion of a hobby might just throw in the towel and hand it off to facebook.       

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I agree with you, it does take time and I can understand wanting out. With Ayer's, there were people that posted inquiries to take it over so as not to lose the valuable information contained and to keep the forum up and running. The administrator chose to take his ball and go home. Totally within his right to do so. They would rather heard their sheep to farcebook.

Well done managing your church's website. If had those kind of skills I would help with ours.

[Tom Geiger]

  On 6/27/2024 at 3:27 PM, Volzfan59 said:

I agree with you, it does take time and I can understand wanting out. With Ayer's, there were people that posted inquiries to take it over so as not to lose the valuable information contained and to keep the forum up and running. The administrator chose to take his ball and go home. Totally within his right to do so. They would rather heard their sheep to farcebook.

Well done managing your church's website. If had those kind of skills I would help with ours.

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In the stamp hobby there is a current effort to capture and archive all the web articles and such so they are not lost when a site goes away. Sadly sites often go dark after the owner dies, or simply has had enough of dealing with people

Edited June 27, 2024 by Tom Geiger

[Dave Van]

Per the powers that be, the ending of the site was not a money thing. It was even offered that we, members,  pay the bill for hosting. Nope. Then the suggestion was brought up that the database be turned over to a new care taker. Someone stepped up and offered to take over the database and maintain for free. Nope. 

So in the end it looks like they just want us all on Facebook or nothing. I do say Thanks to those who offered to save the site, for free, but were turned dow. 

And so it ia model related post....a model!!!!!

 

[MarkJ]

Beautiful build, Dave. I don't remember seeing it at Randy's. Can't quite make out the name. Who drove this car?  And thanks for giving us a build to look at. I keep trying to put Randy's in my rear-view mirror, but I keep getting pulled back like Pacino said in Godfather part 2 or maybe it was 3. I can't remember.

[Dave Van]

  On 6/27/2024 at 4:42 PM, MarkJ said:

Beautiful build, Dave. I don't remember seeing it at Randy's. Can't quite make out the name. Who drove this car?  And thanks for giving us a build to look at. I keep trying to put Randy's in my rear-view mirror, but I keep getting pulled back like Pacino said in Godfather part 2 or maybe it was 3. I can't remember.

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Alan Kulwicki.......

My goal is to build every Cup car he drove. When I was doing some work for Revell and needed current Cup car photos Alan always permitted me in the shop to do as I needed. Great guy.

 

[Jonathan]

I always liked the Hardee's schemes

  On 6/27/2024 at 3:27 PM, Volzfan59 said:

I agree with you, it does take time and I can understand wanting out. With Ayer's, there were people that posted inquiries to take it over so as not to lose the valuable information contained and to keep the forum up and running. The administrator chose to take his ball and go home. Totally within his right to do so. They would rather heard their sheep to farcebook.

Well done managing your church's website. If had those kind of skills I would help with ours.

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I appreciate the compliment - I can't take credit for making it a great website at all, it is very basic

Didn't know about the history with Ayer's - I tended to visit in spurts.  Hate to see any website of valuable historical "how to's" and such go away

 

[Jonathan]

I'll start a separate WIP for this one, eventually.  I had started a thread on the Ayer's board, but it had been a long time since I updated that.  I really need to get back to this build - we've been working on the house lately and just life stuff, but maybe this will motivate me since we're talking vintage racers.   I'm a slow builder sometimes. 

I'm hoping to replicate Fireball Roberts' 1957 Chevy that won the 1958 Darlington race.  My dad was there as a boy and he talks about what it was like back then.

AMT "Proshop" kit, Tamiya paints. 

Edited June 27, 2024 by Jonathan

[MarkJ]

  On 6/27/2024 at 5:09 PM, Dave Van said:

Alan Kulwicki.......

My goal is to build every Cup car he drove. When I was doing some work for Revell and needed current Cup car photos Alan always permitted me in the shop to do as I needed. Great guy.

 

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Awesome that you got to work in his shop and speak with him. That t-bird looks great too.