New Product News at the 2024 NNL Motor City DAAM Show 11-24 (UPDATED 11-11-24 & 11-12-24 5:15pm EST)

[Rob Hall]

8 minutes ago, Reegs said:

But why a curbside? Why not a complete kit to begin with? Just wonderin'.

To keep costs down, I'd assume. 

[chryslerjunkandstuff]

Well, Round2 has done it again!

There will be a pair of '72 Dusters, a pair of '60 Nomads, and I'm guessing at least a quartet of '64 1/2 Barracudas heading my way when they get released!

In my opinion, Round2 is light years ahead of everyone else in the game..

Keep up the good works!

[Ulf]

Well done Round2 ! Curbside or not, I will build both the Barracuda and the Nomad.

[mk11]

Life's good for mopar fans all around with the kits and fewspruesloose creating these...

[RancheroSteve]

On 11/12/2024 at 5:20 PM, tim boyd said:

Surprised no one (that I now of) has picked up on this....one of the very first Barracuda Drag Cars was the 1965 Tom McEwen Plymouth Dealers Association car.   If you have any of the AMT Barracuda Funny Car kits (Hemi Under Glass, Hemi Hunter et al), the actual chassis/suspension/engine/interior is an exact (to my eyes) copy of this car, not the 1/1 Hemi Under Glass.   

So....now that we have a factory stock 1965 Barracuda on the way, that body plus the AMT Barracuda Funny Car underpinnings and aftermarket decals (I think Slixx has offered this in the past) = completely accurate replica of yet another landmark 1/1 drag car.

That was actually my first thought! I already have the decals and the HUG (Model King issue). One of the things that's been holding me back from building it was the body not being the right year.

[boss 302 mustang]

The McEwen/Goeske car ran a 426 hemi, not the 392 that is in the kit.

[boss 302 mustang]

Just now, boss 302 mustang said:

The McEwen/Goeske car ran a 426 hemi, not the 392 that is in the kit.  Otherwise, a pretty close example of the real car.  

Maybe Round 2 will come out with one of the MPC Hemi Under Glass kits in the future.

 

[tim boyd]

1 hour ago, boss 302 mustang said:

The McEwen/Goeske car ran a 426 hemi, not the 392 that is in the kit.

The basis for my conclusion on this subject is the December, 1965 issue of Rod and Custom, pgs. 14-19.  If you've ever built the AMT 'cuda funny car kit, you'll clearly see the design linkage to the 1/1 McEwen car.  

Nevertheless, I just looked up the subject issue, and sure enough as Mr. Fisher says above, the engine pictured is a 426 Hemi, not the 392 in the AMT kit. 

I can only speculate that when AMT scaled the 1/1, it may have been initially setup with the 392.  I say this because for an article published in Dec 1965, and given the delays in producing and publishing back then, the car was probably photographed for the article around June or July, 1965 at the latest.  At that point, the 426 Hemi in blown drag racing form was just beginning to be used.  Further given that the 1/1 was probably constructed during the first half of 1965, maybe they did the early work with a 392 and then switched to the 426 as it became available toward the completion of the 1/1. 

This is all speculation on my part, but the fact remains that the 1/1 was pictured in this article with the 426 Hemi as Mr. Fisher correctly notes....TIM  

[ChrisBcritter]

Hmm.

Slant 6 plug, but with that emblem it looks like there may be a V8 in the future?

[Mark]

The annual kit also had V8 emblems on the body, and had a slant six engine under the hood.  I believe the MPC '68 repeated the error, with "340" hood inserts and a slant six.

[Mark C.]

12 hours ago, ChrisBcritter said:

Hmm.

Slant 6 plug, but with that emblem it looks like there may be a V8 in the future?

It gives the builder the option of either.  Put in a “273”, keep the emblem.  Put in a slant, sand off the emblem.  IIRC, the slant 6 cars didn’t have engine identification on the body.

[Sledsel]

I was gonna get the current Barracuda and kit bash, guess I'll wait. The Wagon is cool, prolly end up with a few.

[boss 302 mustang]

16 hours ago, tim boyd said:

The basis for my conclusion on this subject is the December, 1965 issue of Rod and Custom, pgs. 14-19.  If you've ever built the AMT 'cuda funny car kit, you'll clearly see the design linkage to the 1/1 McEwen car.  

Nevertheless, I just looked up the subject issue, and sure enough as Mr. Fisher says above, the engine pictured is a 426 Hemi, not the 392 in the AMT kit. 

I can only speculate that when AMT scaled the 1/1, it may have been initially setup with the 392.  I say this because for an article published in Dec 1965, and given the delays in producing and publishing back then, the car was probably photographed for the article around June or July, 1965 at the latest.  At that point, the 426 Hemi in blown drag racing form was just beginning to be used.  Further given that the 1/1 was probably constructed during the first half of 1965, maybe they did the early work with a 392 and then switched to the 426 as it became available toward the completion of the 1/1. 

This is all speculation on my part, but the fact remains that the 1/1 was pictured in this article with the 426 Hemi as Mr. Fisher correctly notes....TIM  

Tim, no criticism intended.....was just trying to clarify for those who did not know and may want to build.  

[tim boyd]

12 minutes ago, boss 302 mustang said:

Tim, no criticism intended.....was just trying to clarify for those who did not know and may want to build.  

That's exactly the way I interpreted your post.  There's always "new news" to be learned and anyone who posts should hope for feedback, and if needed, corrections or update to the material that is posted.  Thanks again for bringing this to my attention....TIM 

[dragsterguy]

The HUG motor isn't a 392, it's a 426 Hemi with the magneto in the wrong place. The 426 is on the r=passenger side front, the 392 rear of the intake manifold.

It isn't really very difficult to fix. There are some differences between the Hemi Cuda and the HUG kit.

 

[Daddyfink]

21 hours ago, boss 302 mustang said:

 

The HUG has a 426, but the mag is in the wrong spot! A simple fix. 

[tim boyd]

1 hour ago, dragsterguy said:

There are some differences between the Hemi Cuda and the HUG kit.

 

 

 

Beyond the engine info described above and the different graphics/livery, can you describe those differences in any more detail?  I presume you are referring to and comparing the 1/1 scale Tom McEwen car and the AMT HUG/Hemi Hunter kit? 

Always anxious to learn more...thanks in advance...TB   

[tim boyd]

26 minutes ago, Daddyfink said:

The HUG has a 426, but the mag is in the wrong spot! A simple fix. 

Sounds like that calls for someone to build a comparo  - the two engines (the Hemi Hunter/Hemmi Under Glass kit engine and a blown 426 Hemi from a trusted kit source) side by side and confirm...beyond the distributor location; presumably there should still be some visible differences between a first gen 392 engine and an 2nd gen 426....even in 1/25th scale. 

Presuming Jesse is correct and the AMT kit is indeed a 426 Heim with the distributor in the prior gen location, this could make building a scale replica of the 1/1 McEwen car an easier project...(and simplifies the process if Round 2 ever decides to do the McEwen car as a derivative of the new Barracuda tool...) 

 TB

[jjsipes]

My thought with the Barracuda went immediately to this.

 

[boss 302 mustang]

1 hour ago, Daddyfink said:

The HUG has a 426, but the mag is in the wrong spot! A simple fix. 

I can't readily find my kit, but doesn't it have Donovan 392 rocker covers?  And a 392 front cover.   Looking at the instructions on the Drastic Plastics site, it kinda looks like a mish-mash of parts.  Personally, I am going to do the McEwen car as I have the Slixx decals but using a 426 from the Too Much dragster.

Edited November 15, 2024 by boss 302 mustang
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[dragsterguy]

3 hours ago, boss 302 mustang said:

I can't readily find my kit, but doesn't it have Donovan 392 rocker covers?  And a 392 front cover.   Looking at the instructions on the Drastic Plastics site, it kinda looks like a mish-mash of parts.  Personally, I am going to do the McEwen car as I have the Slixx decals but using a 426 from the Too Much dragster.

The Donovan was just ( to put it simply ) an aluminum block 392. There really isn't a "392" front cover, but the blocks are different. Some casters make accurate 426 blocks They HUG covers are similar to the M/T 426 covers, but no name. I can't remember who made them, The headers are totally different, the Cuda had 8 pipes going out the rear, no collector. The car was amazingly stock inside, when it flipped at LIONS the headliner caught fire from the roof dragging on the pavement. McEwen said was pretty stock other than the obvious. There are many pics of the car online. One of the many 70's FC Revell FC motors would work. Remember Plymouth sponsored the car, the motor was a 65 Plymouth Hemi. Plymouth never made a hemi in the 50's, no 392. They sponsored it to sell cars.

One of the best features of the HH/HUG kit is the transmission. it's the ONLY B&M Torkmaster dragster trans ever kitted. This was an early to mid-later dragster "automatic" trans that was pretty much standard on that era fuel cars. I've bough several HUG kits just for that reason. GOOGLE sucks on this kind of stuff.

EVERYBODY in AA/FD ran one...like The Snake. Lookie here! It was a fluid coupling as opposed to just a dry clutch. for slippage -1966

Look at the Cuda fender, B&M Torkmaster

Edited November 15, 2024 by dragsterguy
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[dragsterguy]

Mikes decal has some Slixx sets. Two versions of the Cuda, high front end (flew) then lower AND it became Fred Goeske's after Tom. Fred drove it for years without incident. Write to SLIXX and ask for them, it never hurts.

[dragsterguy]

1 hour ago, jjsipes said:

My thought with the Barracuda went immediately to this.

 

HRM had a detailed construction feature on this ill fated car. Worth finding it.

[dragsterguy]

2 hours ago, tim boyd said:

Beyond the engine info described above and the different graphics/livery, can you describe those differences in any more detail?  I presume you are referring to and comparing the 1/1 scale Tom McEwen car and the AMT HUG/Hemi Hunter kit? 

Always anxious to learn more...thanks in advance...TB   

Tim, this depends on how accurate you want to get, as I said above the Revell 70's 426's are good. Speed City casting makes great 426 block, but Scott is usually out of stock. Check his site. I'd say the HUG is 90% accurate, save the body and exhaust and under front hood detail. I'm relying on memory here!

[Chris V]

While on the subject of the HUG Cuda, the exact same chassis and driveline can be found in the AMT's "CheZoom" '69 Corvair Funnycar reissued about ten years ago.

Another thing worth noting is that the upcoming AMT '64 Olds AWB appears to have the same new rubber front tires, that were tooled up for the reissue of the '65 Chevelle AWB kit - A vast improvement over the plastic front tires in most of the repurposed AMT Altered Wheelbase kits! I really hope we'll see these, as well as the trailer tires from both AMT's '60 Ford Pickup and MPC's '68 Dodge Coronets, in other future Round2 releases. 

Edited November 15, 2024 by Chris V