Mini Lathe suggestions

[58 Impala]

I have been thinking about purchasing a mini lathe to make model car parts. I've never used one, so any suggestions on a good lathe for a beginner. 

And also not too expensive the would require selling a kidney. Thanks.

[peteski]

Price and quality go together.  Sherline to me  is a prefect balance of good quality and reasonable price.

Also, if you were to search the forum ,there are multiple threads with your type of question. Here are couple. I suggest reading the info already posted to reduce duplicity.

 

[Ace-Garageguy]

42 minutes ago, peteski said:

Price and quality go together...

Truer words were never spoken.

Which means stay away from the really cheap plastic Chinese junk.

Most of them are toys, and are incapable of delivering any kind of consistent accuracy.

I'd owned a full-size lathe and mill for my business since 1995, but when I decided to get into miniature machining I started with a used but excellent late '60s Unimat, and in early 2024 added a used Sherline that came with a bunch of tooling for an incredible price, though the machine does seem to have been used by a chimp at one point.

Deals are out there on excellent used equipment if you have patience, but be prepared to spend at least $500 and up today to get something you can actually make parts with.

If you're not already familiar with machine work terms and procedures, you'd be ahead of the game if you did some reading on machine work in general and miniature machine work in particular, so you'll have an idea of what the various machining operations entail and what additional parts and tooling you'll need besides just the basic machine.

Edited Saturday at 03:46 AM by Ace-Garageguy

[Bugatti Fan]

Sher!ine comes to mind as being a really well built miniature lathe, currently in production and with a good range of accessories. American manufactured.

Proxxon also makes a very high quality miniature lathe and accessories also currently in production. They also make many other miniature power tools for model making. Austrian manufactured.

Unimat. Sadly stopped production of their excellent little machines and huge range of accessories for the.a few years back. At one time regarded as a benchmark miniature machine tool, made in Austria. Not known why they ceased production, but not too difficult to obtain their machines and accessories on the second hand market. I have a Unimat 4 that I bought new some time ago and can attest that it is a fine little machine.

Cowells.  A British made miniature machine that is regarded as the Rolls Royce of miniature machines by many with a price to reflect the very high quality.

There are a number of other miniature lathes from less we!l known that have been available over the years that crop up second hand now and again. Peatol and Toyo are two names that I can remember having seen in the past.

Important.  One has to remember that lathes are generally sold as a basic machine and one needs to buy accessories on as well as the machine to do certain different things on it. So one will have to consider what it will be used for and if any accessories at extra cost needs to be considered.

Edited Saturday at 07:04 AM by Bugatti Fan

[Bainford]

Have a look at Taig lathes, too. Often cheaper than the Sherlines and Unimats, but a full range of accessories available, including milling attachments, and they are more than capable of the work done in scale modelling. They are US made, and there is good online community support, as well. 

[Straightliner59]

I have a Sherine lathe and one of their milling machines. They're more than suited for what I do, and there are members of this forum who do amazing work, on them. 

[Bugatti Fan]

Not heard of the Taig brand over here in England Trevor.   

Will have to look at their website as it sounds like another capable little machine.

[bobss396]

I have looked into lathes, agree that Sherline would be best for me.

I'm holding off on buying one...it would engulf my summer quite easily. 

[Bugatti Fan]

Looked up the Taig machines and discovered that they were (are) sold as Peatol in the UK, in which case I have heard of them. I believe that they were marketed as quite basic machines without a motor that needed to be sourced elsewhere. In fact I think that I did see them at the Model Engineering Exhibition a number of years back, so they have been around for quite some time now.

[Bainford]

6 hours ago, Bugatti Fan said:

Looked up the Taig machines and discovered that they were (are) sold as Peatol in the UK, in which case I have heard of them. I believe that they were marketed as quite basic machines without a motor that needed to be sourced elsewhere. In fact I think that I did see them at the Model Engineering Exhibition a number of years back, so they have been around for quite some time now.

Interesting about the Peatol brand.

Unfortunately the Taig website, which looks good and is well stocked with accessories, is difficult to discern the differences between the various lathe kits. There are many different 'kit' options, and is a bit weak on descriptions, making decisions difficult, but they do sell complete kits that include chucks and a motor. When I started writing this reply, I was going to tell you to refer to the website of the Canadian distributor, Lee Valley Tools, but I see they no longer deal in Taigs. This is a shame, as their website laid out the various options and accessories in a non-ambiguous way. I plan on buying a lathe myself in the next couple years, as soon as I sell enough of my stash to fund the purchase, and spent the last hour on the Taig site, but I came away with more questions than answers.

[Bugatti Fan]

Trevor, not knowing if you will be new to machining or not when ready to go ahead, I would suggest that you obtain a copy of Joe Martin's book about miniature machining. It will be on the Sherline website.

Having been in engineering all my life I still found the book to be fascinating, showing many examples of miniature engineering work.

[Bainford]

Cheers Noel. I have worked in and around machine shops all my life, though my actual operating experience is limited to very basic turning or mill work (my trade is Mechanical Fitter, currently employed as a Mechanical Technologist with the Canadian branch of a UK engineering firm). Thanks much for the recommendation on the book. I will look into that, for sure.

Edited 20 hours ago by Bainford

[bill-e-boy]

I have a Emco Unimat 3 that I got second hand a while ago. It was used but came as a kit with the drill/mill attachment and a whole heap of additional stuff that made the deal worthwhile. I di spend some time cleaning it up and fitting new headstock bearings and setting up a new workstation for it.

I am real happy with it and in reality I think it is a step up from the Proxon and may even nudge ahead of the Sherline but unfortunately the Emco brand is no longer so you can only get second hand. A lot of the DNA from Unimat 3 can be found in the likes of the small Sieg lathes (and copies) which are another avenue to look at

 

[Bugatti Fan]

It would be interesting to find out why the Unimats stopped production. 

At one time they appeared to be the go to miniature machines here in England, and had links with the late Gerald Wingrove. He wrote a book named Unimat Lathe Projects. I used the drawings in it to make a four way tool post for my machine that saves me a lot of time whilst using it.

My particular machine is a Unimat 4, pretty much identical to the Unimat 3 as far as I can see, but there may be subtle changes that I am not aware of. The 4 I believe was made in Taiwan whereas the 3 is probably the last of the Austrian built machines. Maybe the 4 is simply a designation number for the machines that were built in Taiwan?

If I were looking for a miniature machine tool setup new today, I would probably be leaning towards the Sherline that has a UK agent/sales outlet. Relying on memory the name Millhill Supplies comes to mind as the name of the supplier. Besides Joe Martin's book Table top Machining that I mentioned in an earlier post, having looked on Millhill's site there is a download for the building, setting up and using of the Sherline Lathe and Milling machines. It is very comprehensive. So if anyone is looking to invest in the Sherline machines this free download will be well worth obtaining. Having looked through it I noticed a link for a video within it too.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Bugatti Fan