Kit of the decade

[meaneyme]

The newly tooled 'Cuda from Revell!!!

I swear to you, I was drinking coffee and after seeing this, with the outburst, it just came right out through my nose.

[george 53]

The newly tooled 'Cuda from Revell!!!

Man, Marcos, if they DON'T get it right THIS time, I'll get FREAKIER than I ALREADY am!!!!!

[Harry P.]

A decade is 10 years.

The first decade of the 21st century was January 1, 2000 through Dec. 31, 2009.

The second decade will be Jan. 1, 2010 through Dec. 31, 2019, and so on.

If you consider the year 2010 to be part of the first decade, that would make the "decade" 11 years long (Jan. 1, 2000 through Dec. 31, 2010). And a decade isn't 11 years long, regardless of when (or if) Jesus was born!

[george 53]

Welp, that doos it, I guess Revell's gonna blow THIS version of the next Cuda kit too, an I'm jus gonna get FREAKIER!!

[beefheart22]

A decade is 10 years.

The first decade of the 21st century was January 1, 2000 through Dec. 31, 2009.

The second decade will be Jan. 1, 2010 through Dec. 31, 2019, and so on.

If you consider the year 2010 to be part of the first decade, that would make the "decade" 11 years long (Jan. 1, 2000 through Dec. 31, 2010). And a decade isn't 11 years long, regardless of when (or if) Jesus was born!

Just some more fodder for the decade debate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%932009

Not that Wikipedia is the final word of truth by any means.

The best kit of the decade for me is the one that got me back into building model cars... but I'm going to keep that under my hat.

[Nick Winter]

Dukefan69', don't waste my mailbox space with garbage like this,

posting that a kit that is 30 years old and a re-issue that's been around the block too many times should be considered the "kit of the decade" is entertaining, almost hilarious what decade were you thinking of?

Dave

I have so many choice words that I could use but I'm not gonna bring myself to your level Dave.

Nick

[Terry Jessee]

A decade is 10 years.

The first decade of the 21st century was January 1, 2000 through Dec. 31, 2009.

The second decade will be Jan. 1, 2010 through Dec. 31, 2019, and so on.

If you consider the year 2010 to be part of the first decade, that would make the "decade" 11 years long (Jan. 1, 2000 through Dec. 31, 2010). And a decade isn't 11 years long, regardless of when (or if) Jesus was born!

Sorry, but that's incorrect. The first century was AD 1 (Anno Domini--"in the year of our Lord") to AD 100. 101-200, 201-300, 1601-1700, and so on.

Jesus wasn't a year old when he was born. Our current system was essentially established by the Catholic church, since they were kind of in charge of that as the convention developed over the centuries. The concept of "zero" was not widely understood at the time, except (oddly enough) by the Arab culture. So in the Christian tradition there is "before Christ" or B.C. and "Anno Domini" or A.D. Historians often refer to a newer method of measurement, B.C.E. ("before Christian era") and C.E. ("Christian era"). And again, there is no zero. The first year that Christ lived is 1 AD or 1 CE.

So, silly American "conventions" aside, the decade won't be over until December 31, 2010. The 20th century did not end until December 31, 2000. As above, it consisted of the years 1901 to 2000.

And yes, I'm right.

Terry

[Harry P.]

Sorry, but that's incorrect. The first century was AD 1 (Anno Domini--"in the year of our Lord") to AD 100. 101-200, 201-300, 1601-1700, and so on.

Jesus wasn't a year old when he was born. Our current system was essentially established by the Catholic church, since they were kind of in charge of that as the convention developed over the centuries. The concept of "zero" was not widely understood at the time, except (oddly enough) by the Arab culture. So in the Christian tradition there is "before Christ" or B.C. and "Anno Domini" or A.D. Historians often refer to a newer method of measurement, B.C.E. ("before Christian era") and C.E. ("Christian era"). And again, there is no zero. The first year that Christ lived is 1 AD or 1 CE.

So, silly American "conventions" aside, the decade won't be over until December 31, 2010. The 20th century did not end until December 31, 2000. As above, it consisted of the years 1901 to 2000.

And yes, I'm right.

Terry

"On further revue"... yes, you're right.

[RodneyBad]

Ok Bill, I read it, so does that mean Jesus was a year old ALREADY when he was born??? I 'll stay with my way, it makes sense to me, and I like it better!

I'm gonna have to go with George53 on this one

He was there, he should know

For kit of the decade,

(when it gets here)

I'm still waiting on one that Really tickles my fancy.

[Rob Hall]

Sorry, but that's incorrect. The first century was AD 1 (Anno Domini--"in the year of our Lord") to AD 100. 101-200, 201-300, 1601-1700, and so on.

Jesus wasn't a year old when he was born. Our current system was essentially established by the Catholic church, since they were kind of in charge of that as the convention developed over the centuries. The concept of "zero" was not widely understood at the time, except (oddly enough) by the Arab culture. So in the Christian tradition there is "before Christ" or B.C. and "Anno Domini" or A.D. Historians often refer to a newer method of measurement, B.C.E. ("before Christian era") and C.E. ("Christian era"). And again, there is no zero. The first year that Christ lived is 1 AD or 1 CE.

So, silly American "conventions" aside, the decade won't be over until December 31, 2010. The 20th century did not end until December 31, 2000. As above, it consisted of the years 1901 to 2000.

And yes, I'm right.

Terry

Whatever...why are you bringing religion into it? It's a banned topic on these forums. Believe what you want to believe. In normal convention, the current decade ends December 31, 2009. The '10s start January, 1, 2010.

You guys wouldn't consider a '60 Falcon as a '50s car, or a '70 Cuda a '60s car, right? i.e. 1950-1959, 1960-1969, etc. Keep it simple and clear...

Edited November 24, 2009 by Rob Hall

[Terry Jessee]

Whatever...why are you bringing religion into it? It's a banned topic on these forums. Believe what you want to believe. In normal convention, the current decade ends December 31, 2009. The '10s start January, 1, 2010.

You guys wouldn't consider a '60 Falcon as a '50s car, or a '70 Cuda a '60s car, right? i.e. 1950-1959, 1960-1969, etc. Keep it simple and clear...

In order to understand the convention, you have to understand the history behind it. Again, it has nothing to do with religion or with American conventions which don't understand the history.

History is a guide to navigation in perilous times. History is who we are and why we are the way we are.

David McCulloch

Terry

[Peter Lombardo]

What just happened here? Gasman posts an innocent posting asking the question, "what is your favorite kit of the last ten years", granted, he didn't ask the question with those exact words, but that was the substance of the question. In reviewing the postings, there was far more controversy of the dates than the kits. Have we all become so "Politically Correct" that we can't just accept the point of the post and state our favorite kit or kits? Maybe it's me...I am willing to accept that, but I think this has been blown out of proportion here.

Anyway, the post made me think about the fact that not too many kits jump out at me as to being special. Sure, I like the Revell 49 Mercury, I picked up 3 of them, but have yet to do more than open the doors on one of them. I have all of the variations of the 32 Ford family by Revell, but none, for all intents and purposes built. I like the Revell 58 Chevy coupe or the 69 Nova, bought one each, but no burning desire to start them. It is interesting to me that these are all "retreads" in one form or another of kits that have gone before. Sure I have the Tamiya Enzo, and just about all of the Ferrari kits they make, along with the Porsche kits Tamiya makes and yes, the quality is spectacular...clearly a cut above all others. I recently picked up the Hasagawa and Fujimi 1/20 scale F1 kits and they are as good as the Tamiya offerings of the recent past. I think most have been disappointed with the Trumpeter GT40 (I haven't seen it, and stated long ago that I would not spend that kind of money on it). But judging from the comments and articles I have seen, this may be the "flop" of the year.

So what is my point? I realize that this is clearly the "Second Golden Age" of modeling. We have more choices and more detail items available than ever before. Why do I not get excited over the kits that are coming out? Why can't I point to one kit and say....Yeah, that's it!!! I think that is because we always get the same "safe" thing. Rehash's of the same cars. Re tooling of the same kits. It's like TV. One network has success with a type of show, and the others copy it. It has always been like this. Someone started the "reality craze" (P.S., there is nothing "Real" about any of those shows) and everyone copies it...."American Idol", "America's got talent", "Dancing with the stars", "So you think you can dance"...."Survivor", "The great race", "The biggest loser" (P.S. I think our own Bill Geary could be on that show)...you get my point, I think, I hope,..... it is the same old, same old. I think it is high time that we started getting some of the more obscure kits......before you jump at me, yes, I understand the financial situation we are in, I have said, right here in this forum, that I understand how it works. Manufacturers need to make a profit...yes, yes, I get it, but in looking back over the past 10 years, whether we think it is 9 years, or 9.90 years or a full 10 years, looking back over this time, I realize that I was not overly impressed with the crop of kits we were given. Man, I want to see some of those old 50's Buick's, Pontiac's, Oldsmobile's and Caddies. I want to see the 50's Chrysler's, Dodge's and Plymouth's. Some of those 50's Lincoln's were fabulous...where are they? What is wrong with the early 60's Chrysler vehicles? Come on...think about what a great lowrider a 1994 Chrysler LHS would make? Why and Tamiya not produced a kit of the Cobra Daytona with an engine at a respectable price. Where is the kit of the Ford GT Mark IV by Fujimi or Tamiya? Where is the complete kit of the Chaparral 2? Where is a quality kit of the 289 Cobra without the huge fenders? Really, there are so many great racing sports cars of the past 50 or so years that a manufacturer could go for years and never run out of subjects.

There are so many subjects out there and seem to just get the same old, safe out retreads.

Believe it or not, I am not really complaining...I just want to see one of these guys take a chance or two on a unique subject.....I know my timing on this stinks, but I want some different subjects....you know, an Olds Toronado with modern tooling might be interesting. Am I crazy?

[Rob Hall]

There have been a lot of good new kits this decade, thought it is hard for me to think of one that really jumps out or made an impact more than others.

I've enjoyed the various Tamiya and Fujimi Ferraris, the Tamiya Skyline GT-R, and numerous Revell issues--the '06-08 Mustangs and Shelbys, \ Dodge Magnum, '09 Challenger, '69 Novas, the '32 Fords and Chevy Tri-Five permutations come to mind...

Been a lot of reissues from Revell, Lindberg, and AMT this decade, and we saw the extinction and return of AMT with the same year.

The two new tools I'm most anticipating the rest of this year are the Revell '72 Olds Cutlass and Aoshima '09 Merc SL 63 AMG.

[lordairgtar]

The kit of the decade is..............................................................................

..............................................

What ever new tooled kit that you thought was THE greatest thing you ever saw and you went out and bought a box load of them. Very subjective thing if you ask me. My choice for KOTD is such a turd, but I was so happy to have it available and it ain't even a new tool.

[CAL]

Sorry, but that's incorrect. The first century was AD 1 (Anno Domini--"in the year of our Lord") to AD 100. 101-200, 201-300, 1601-1700, and so on.

Jesus wasn't a year old when he was born. Our current system was essentially established by the Catholic church, since they were kind of in charge of that as the convention developed over the centuries. The concept of "zero" was not widely understood at the time, except (oddly enough) by the Arab culture. So in the Christian tradition there is "before Christ" or B.C. and "Anno Domini" or A.D. Historians often refer to a newer method of measurement, B.C.E. ("before Christian era") and C.E. ("Christian era"). And again, there is no zero. The first year that Christ lived is 1 AD or 1 CE.

So, silly American "conventions" aside, the decade won't be over until December 31, 2010. The 20th century did not end until December 31, 2000. As above, it consisted of the years 1901 to 2000.

And yes, I'm right.

Terry

What decade is that though?

I donno, seems like going aginst convention argument is moot. The Roaring 20s, The Tewnties, the 1920s is 1920 - 1929 not thru 1930.

Acutally he was 5 in 1 CE since scholars have kind of pin-pointed his life from 4 BC to 30 CE.

I very little doubt there was some version of this argument going on 100 years ago. Since the single digits seem to mess with people, and the teens are 13 - 19... not even a whole decade's worth I wonder who came up with that geniuses idea.

So it's going to be a few more years before things are back to normal.

Eventhough you may technically be right, you're not really right in reality.

And FWIW the calendar as we know it didn't come to fruition till deep into the 18th century

Edited November 24, 2009 by CAL

[Zoom Zoom]

Here we are in a thread about our favorite model car kit of the decade, and (of course ) people have to come along and turn it into an IPMS (with emphasis on the PMS part) contest, instead of staying focused end up arguing about something else.

In other words, we've become "them".

[Modelmartin]

Here we are in a thread about our favorite model car kit of the decade, and (of course ) people have to come along and turn it into an IPMS (with emphasis on the PMS part) contest, instead of staying focused end up arguing about something else.

In other words, we've become "them".

I second that motion. I propose that we have 2 polls. The first one to determine by popular vote when the "decade" ends. and the second one to determine kit of the decade.

p.s. For the humor-impaired - that was a joke. I don't really want a freaking poll.

[Rider]

This thread, the one about kit of the decade, could have and still can be a very interesting thread.

If ya still want to talk about calendars and time google it, there are a ton of forums out there. As for the year 0 or 1 I don't really give a rats a$$ what you guys think so please go play on another thread.

Peter made some real interesting points on "missing" and "obscure kits". I for one was very glad to see the Tom Daniels line come back out. What I'd reall think would put our hobby on it's ear would be if a "new" era Tom Daniels of Ed Roth could be found and his creation brought to the market place.

I totally agree with Peters comments on Tamiya producing a Cobra Daytona kit, that might put it up there. What about doing some new tooling on popular subjects like the STP Turbine, there's enough of a subject variance there that they could produce different versions of the 5 cars, there were 5 right?

Edited November 24, 2009 by Plastic Freak

[Jon Cole]

Kit of The Decade?

Heck, that's EASY!

It's.... it's....

...um, well....

...uh, let me get back to ya on that.

[Guest promodmerc]

I have so many choice words that I could use but I'm not gonna bring myself to your level Dave.

Nick

And you wonder why people put you on their ignore list.

[Jantrix]

Rather than chime in on this debate I'd just like to say a big thank you to Revell, Model King, Round 2 and everyone else (aftermarket companies, resin casters) who helped make the last ten years one of the best decades in the history of scale auto modeling.

Nuff said.

[Pete J.]

Kit of the decade? Well that would require some criteria otherwise you wind up comparing apples to oranges. Here are a couple I would suggest.

most popular

best engineered

most accurate

most fun to build

best of catagory

best by a manufacture

feel free to add your own.

[CAL]

Kit of the decade? Well that would require some criteria otherwise you wind up comparing apples to oranges. Here are a couple I would suggest.

most popular

best engineered

most accurate

most fun to build

best of catagory

best by a manufacture

feel free to add your own.

Most complete, or feeling of complete: out of the box. Many kits feel a little lacking in one area or another. It has been a long time since I have open a box and truly been impressed with everything about it. I hate to keep harping on an armor kit but Cyber Hobbies really has done it with their kits, particularly with the Tiger. And they have done it at a reasonable price.

I know AMT tried with the Pro Shop 57' Chevy, but it failed completely. It seems to take just the right amount of ingredients to come up with a masterpiece of a kit.

I agree some of those ingredients are

Popularity - but sometimes not

Engineering - goes a long long way. Just look at Tamiya, sometimes over simplified but stunning results time after time.

Accuracy - sure everyone the most accurate but that always doesn't equate to the best.

Fun Factor - is an absolute as well.

The others are rather sub-categories.

It's not an easy task picking KOTD. Just look at some of FSM KOTY picks. There has been some that really make you think what were they thinking.

[E St. Kruiser50]

I'll toss my hat in on the KOTD.

I think with so many varied interests here, as well as different age groups, and different styles of building, there probably won't be any one definitive answer.

For me, the 60's and 80's were the best decades - YOU DIDN'T SPECIFY WHICH DECADE .

I love the old AMT 50's and 60's kits of the Fords, Imperials and Lincolns.

In the 80's, Italeri and Revell of Germany, and even Gunze Sangyo, came out with some of the most wonderful subject matter and beautifully detailed kits, that to me, still have no rival today ( Except the Tamiya Ferrari FXX) - THE GOLDEN DECADES .

Mercedes 300 SLR Uhlenhaut Coupe, Jaguar XKSS, Ferrari 275 NART Spyder and Daytona Coupe.

Ferrari 250's - The California and the GT Coupe, and so on.

Don't get me wrong, I have built a ton of kits from "This decade", as well as others, and have enjoyed them all, and I'm just glad that since the mid-'50's we've been gifted with a hobby that has stood the test of time, and has given myself and others such enjoyment.

As for the KOTD, it would be impossibe for me to choose JUST ONE .

[wgflatliner]

i've been thinking about this exact question for a while now.

i have concluded that anything Tamiya makes has turned out amazing, except that i'd like them to make the R34 WITH the motor instead of having to buy an R32 just to get the motor to maybe put in the R34.

of the Tamiya kits, the Enzo and FXX ranks up there. I almost killed a coworker over the Enzo because i was displaying it at my desk, and a coworker came over, was on their cell phone and sat on the model. (was trying to sit on my desk)

they never bothered to reimburse me the $70 (model, paint, glue, and time).

now here's what i think would need to happen if Tamiya wanted to explode in the industry: make....... more.......... american........... cars............ (other than the Cobra R they currently make)