george 53 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Hard ta put a good subject down, Gus! :lol:
highway Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 *puts on tinfoil hat* Will a melon hat work!?!? :lol:
Kit Basher Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Will a melon hat work!?!? :lol: Finally! Some useful information! I've been wondering if that was a melon or a tennis ball!
charlie8575 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 In ten years of teaching junior and senior high school, and then, being back in college for the last year in an effort to change career directions, I have seen what happens when people are unable to speak, write, and otherwise communicate in a clear, concise manner. Disturbing doesn't even begin to describe it. I was enrolled in the paralegal program. You would think that the students there would be able to write reasonably, articulate their thoughts verbally and otherwise conduct discourse in an intelligent, reasonable manner. You would be mistaken. We have moved so far away from being able to write clearly (and I'm not just talking about penmanship, that's another matter altogether,) speak clearly, and otherwise communicate. You would be mistaken. Instead, we've concentrated on bubble sheets, computer "literacy," which, ironically, seems to encourage lack of literacy in other areas, and other things that, while, to a degree, are important, are not as important as communication, critical thinking and the ability to be a whole, functioning member of society, within the scope of your ability. Now, I don't think a minor spelling gaffe, the occasional misuse of a work (e.g., its vs. it's,) and other minor problems are grounds for stopping someone from posting. I don't know if anything really should be short of blatant rudeness, harassment and the like. Those unable to communicate intelligently will simply fade to the sidelines. The sad part is many of these people probably are quite articulate, but, for whatever reason, can't communicate via the keyboard well. To those people, I suggest perhaps organizing your thoughts in WordPad or another word-processing program, and then simply copy and pasting your text. In short, if your basic point can be understood, I think that's the most important thing. I wish more of our youth could (re)learn the basics of communication, however. It will make life much easier to deal with if we can understand what it is you're trying to tell us. Charlie Larkin
Tonioseven Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 I agree Charlie. I regularly proofread reports and statements of others (one of my job duties) and I find myself having to have the person give me a verbal translation of what they've written as I try to read it. I don't expect perfection (especially in an IM-perfect world!) but at least have the decency to make sure others can read and comprehend what you're trying to communicate. Just expressing my right to an opinion.
MikeMc Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 I'm not going to bust anyone's chops if they use "their" instead of "there" or "your" when they mean "you're"... but seriously, didn't we learn this stuff in second grade??? I'm actually pretty surprised at just how common these mistakes are here on the forum. Harry..us oldsters DID learn that and a bit more...What do you expect when the NEA is against teaching cursive writing in our schools ? I also laugh when "spell check" gets used...The cars breaks failed comes to mind.....proofreading...not any more. <_<
Rob Hall Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Harry..us oldsters DID learn that and a bit more...What do you expect when the NEA is against teaching cursive writing in our schools ? I also laugh when "spell check" gets used...The cars breaks failed comes to mind.....proofreading...not any more. <_< I see the point in de-emphasizing cursive writing... I really haven't written anything more than my signature 'long hand' in probably 20+ years...used computers throughout college and grad school back in the day.
Harry P. Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 I see the point in de-emphasizing cursive writing... I really haven't written anything more than my signature 'long hand' in probably 20+ years...used computers throughout college and grad school back in the day. It's true... think about it. How often these days do any of us actually write anything anymore? Like Rob, about the only thing I still write by hand is my signature on a check. And even that is disappearing with online bill pay and that sort of thing.
Rob Hall Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 It's true... think about it. How often these days do any of us actually write anything anymore? Like Rob, about the only thing I still write by hand is my signature on a check. And even that is disappearing with online bill pay and that sort of thing. Yes, and I pay everything electronically...maybe write 1 check every 2 months or so...when I take notes at work on a notepad it's often illegible, so I usually take my laptop to all my meetings...
Harry P. Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 "People these days do not pay near as much attention to what you say, as they do to how you say it"- My mother. I personally blame computers and texting for the degradation of the american language. Looks like you're a victim yourself. "American" should be capitalized!
Rob Hall Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Looks like you're a victim yourself. "American" should be capitalized! Actually, it's the 'English' language..there is no 'American' language. Edited September 1, 2011 by Rob Hall
MikeMc Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 It's true... think about it. How often these days do any of us actually write anything anymore? Like Rob, about the only thing I still write by hand is my signature on a check. And even that is disappearing with online bill pay and that sort of thing. I write reports by hand for inspections....The banks want handwritten info with multiple pictures....I also still read the newsPAPER...not online
MikeMc Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Actually, it's the 'English' language..there is no 'American' language. Most Americans barely write or read ENGLISH.....they speak "American"......."AIN"T" !!!!! Edited September 1, 2011 by MIKE THE MANIAC
Harry P. Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Actually, it's the 'English' language..there is no 'American' language. American English, then. "I speak two languages...english, and BAD english!"-Corbin Dallas Again with the incorrect capitalization! See me after class...
sjordan2 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) It's a good thing this isn't a German forum. They capitalize regular nouns, too, not just proper nouns. Edited September 1, 2011 by sjordan2
Harry P. Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 ...my mom would be very dissapointed! Creative writing class? I think a remedial spelling class might be better for you...
my66s55 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 I write reports by hand for inspections....The banks want handwritten info with multiple pictures....I also still read the newsPAPER...not online I find your credibility rather weak after making a post like this: Hey Doc..Tonio and Myself might want to go...info?? Really. Myself might want to go? Watching to many athletic sportsl wrap up are you?
sjordan2 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 What's a 'Sportsl'? SERIOUSLY!!!! THIS TOPIC NEEDS AN ENEMA! Love your graph, which seems to be more accurate than being a satire. Interesting how this subject keeps popping up on different threads, and is now occurring on Tips, Tricks & Tutorials.
Guest Johnny Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Love your graph, which seems to be more accurate than being a satire. Interesting how this subject keeps popping up on different threads, and is now occurring on Tips, Tricks & Tutorials. Yeah, sum pepole can't never let nothing go.you know it?
scalenut Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Most Americans barely write or read ENGLISH.....they speak "American"......."AIN"T" !!!!! Actually the word "Ain't" was commonly used by educated people waaaaay back in time in England... it moved to The states with English settlers to the south. so it's not a redneck thing ,,,it goes much further back..( I learned of this on the discovery channel, just the other day).
MikeMc Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 I find your credibility rather weak after making a post like this: Hey Doc..Tonio and Myself might want to go...info?? Really. Myself might want to go? Watching to many athletic sportsl wrap up are you? OK professor, then why did Adam have the answer right away ? What pray tell is the issue...not spelling or usage...must be an incomplete sentence. Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:33 PM. http://way2manyhobbi...e_Top_Nats.html Hope to see you guys down in Fort Lauderdale for the show. Here is the new website for the show http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45658&view=findpost&p=512379
Danno Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 I think he meant to say it was his creative spelling class. Anybody needs to go to class for that? Seems like it's the standard these days.
MikeMc Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Actually the word "Ain't" was commonly used by educated people waaaaay back in time in England... it moved to The states with English settlers to the south. so it's not a redneck thing ,,,it goes much further back..( I learned of this on the discovery channel, just the other day). I learned it in WI along with "ANA HEY" and "Ja ANA"?? Here is a real dictionary that now lists it as a word. http://www.merriam-w...tionary/ain%27t Edited September 2, 2011 by MIKE THE MANIAC
Kit Basher Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 Now I feel sorry for my grade school teacher who made us recite: "Aint" aint a word, "Aint" aint in the dictionary, and "Aint" aint gonna be used in this classroom!
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