Dragline Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Always one in the crowd. We are clearly having fun at his expense and I love everything about it. You put yourself out there on the internet by choice JB.. Call yourself a "Pro" no less and it's what he deserves in no uncertain terms. Poorly executed, underwhelming builds like this that actually get money make me want to put something on eBay to see what I could fetch for a build a tad better than that. I think I could do it guys!! I really do.... Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 yep...always one in every crowd. that's what my friends say about me: we like you because you are such a good bad example. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick GMC Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 the truth is, if this guy was posting those cars here, no one would be saying anything. or they would be heaping praise on them (and, imo, rightly). the problem seems to be the guys self-description, not the cars. personally, I don't think they are all that bad and the "pro built", "45 years experience" stuff is the normal hyperbole you hear so much of these days. I say leave the guy alone; if you don't like his stuff, don't bid on it. jb No, they are poor attempts. You can clearly tell he sanded the seams on the hood scoop, however he must have been blindfolded when doing it. Everything is half-assed. A member on here learning to better themselves would not leave blue plastic exposed after scraping away chrome. The guy claiming his experience and pro built and all that stuff makes it open season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju Ju Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 This guy's 45 years of experience gaurantees your satisfaction. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BILL-GRUMPY-JENKINS-1966-NOVA-SUPER-STOCK-GRUMPYS-TOY-1-24-PRO-BUILT-MODEL-/201020205158?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item2ecdbce866 So if this is a $20.00 kit, and at best he had 10 hours involved in building it....and he got the whopping sum of $48.99 that would equal about $2.90 an hour for his 'professional services' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharoah Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 At first I thought you were talking about one of my models I've been building since the early 60's and I'm not a pro.Never will be. I can't wire an engine to save my life unless it's large scale. But even I use foil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Yeah the guy put himself out there, so I guess he gets his turn on the "internet barrel", nice that you're all doing it here behind his back where he can't see it tucked safely behind your keyboards. Everyone going for the Internet Bravery Merit Badge this evening? While less than inspiring, to downright sloppy, there are things on this forum that look far worse by a country mile, and yet have so much sugary praise attached to them you get diabetes just reading them. Builds with the finish of spoiled citrus, seams and mold lines, and engine wiring that would scale out to the diameter of garden hoses, and it's all lapped up as the next best thing here. If anyone here actually had their build critiqued they way you hypocrites are doing to this poor mope this place would burn to the ground in a bonfire of butthurt. Whatever happened to the MCM mantra of "Don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!"?? Y'all oughta be ashamed of yourselves! It's one thing to call out these auctions, everyone looks and sees the problems, and then moves on. But I don't ever recall one going into two pages of verbal beatdown to someone who isn't even here to defend themselves. By "This is disgusting", who knew you were going to be talking about the behavior that was to come...psychic thread starter. Edited January 22, 2014 by niteowl7710 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Yeah the guy put himself out there, so I guess he gets his turn on the "internet barrel", nice that you're all doing it here behind his back where he can't see it tucked safely behind your keyboards. Everyone going for the Internet Bravery Merit Badge this evening? While less than inspiring, to downright sloppy, there are things on this forum that look far worse by a country mile, and yet have so much sugary praise attached to them you get diabetes just reading them. Builds with the finish of spoiled citrus, seams and mold lines, and engine wiring that would scale out to the diameter of garden hoses, and it's all lapped up as the next best thing here. If anyone here actually had their build critiqued they way you hypocrites are doing to this poor mope this place would burn to the ground in a bonfire of butthurt. Whatever happened to the MCM mantra of "Don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!"?? Y'all oughta be ashamed of yourselves! It's one thing to call out these auctions, everyone looks and sees the problems, and then moves on. But I don't ever recall one going into two pages of verbal beatdown to someone who isn't even here to defend themselves. By "This is disgusting", who knew you were going to be talking about the behavior that was to come...psychic thread starter. I have to agree with Niteowl7710 on this, the thread title does fit very well indeed Edited January 22, 2014 by martinfan5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsDano85gt Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 at least the paint seems to be a shiney white?!? right? i try to at least pick out some positive from all things negative......... awww shucky crud darn blew my motor awell least now i can rebuild it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshawk Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Y'all oughta be ashamed of yourselves! It's one thing to call out these auctions, everyone looks and sees the problems, and then moves on. But I don't ever recall one going into two pages of verbal beatdown to someone who isn't even here to defend themselves. Yeah , I have to agree with this especially... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordairgtar Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 True, we tend to praise our "friends" on the forum. But we usually have an idea of their age and / or skill level and praise accordingly. If we see someone's build where they BMFed the trim and it was their first time doing so, we'll over look the uneven blade work at the edges. But these posters aren't coming here claiming to be the next Juha Airo. I remember a guy on here who created models of cars not offered as kits by shaping bondo, putty, plastic into something obscure. They weren't the smoothest or the most accurate, but we were all amazed at the creativity of that builder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hamilton Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The Grump is spinning in his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Smith Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 As soon as I build a perfect model... The problem is in the self promotion. Have a little humility in your work, brother (addressed to any person labeling their models as "Pro" and "contest ready"). If somebody posted a model on this forum and propped it verbally as this seller has done, they would get ripped to shreds. Most of us are humble and just like to build and display, hoping others will enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick GMC Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Yeah the guy put himself out there, so I guess he gets his turn on the "internet barrel", nice that you're all doing it here behind his back where he can't see it tucked safely behind your keyboards. Everyone going for the Internet Bravery Merit Badge this evening? While less than inspiring, to downright sloppy, there are things on this forum that look far worse by a country mile, and yet have so much sugary praise attached to them you get diabetes just reading them. Builds with the finish of spoiled citrus, seams and mold lines, and engine wiring that would scale out to the diameter of garden hoses, and it's all lapped up as the next best thing here. If anyone here actually had their build critiqued they way you hypocrites are doing to this poor mope this place would burn to the ground in a bonfire of butthurt. Whatever happened to the MCM mantra of "Don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!"?? Y'all oughta be ashamed of yourselves! It's one thing to call out these auctions, everyone looks and sees the problems, and then moves on. But I don't ever recall one going into two pages of verbal beatdown to someone who isn't even here to defend themselves. By "This is disgusting", who knew you were going to be talking about the behavior that was to come...psychic thread starter. I don't see anyone here bragging about being a pro and how awesome they are with all their experience. I've never put down anyone's builds, but when you start promoting how awesome you are, it'd better be decent. If it didn't have all that ridiculous self promotion, i never would have looked twice. But you're right. The guy's not here to defend himself. Now I almost feel bad. Edited January 22, 2014 by Quick GMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 As soon as I build a perfect model... The problem is in the self promotion. Have a little humility in your work, brother (addressed to any person labeling their models as "Pro" and "contest ready"). If somebody posted a model on this forum and propped it verbally as this seller has done, they would get ripped to shreds. Most of us are humble and just like to build and display, hoping others will enjoy. Very well said Erik... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yeah the guy put himself out there, so I guess he gets his turn on the "internet barrel", nice that you're all doing it here behind his back where he can't see it tucked safely behind your keyboards. Everyone going for the Internet Bravery Merit Badge this evening? So ... Invite him here to defend himself! I'd tell him to his virtual or actual face that while he is saying it's an "Awesome pro built Grumpy's Toy", his photos are saying "Yeah, not so much." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustbucket82 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 So ... Invite him here to defend himself Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philo426 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 He got 48 bucks for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Whatever happened to the MCM mantra of "Don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!"?? Oh the irony. But I don't ever recall one going into two pages of verbal beatdown to someone who isn't even here to defend themselves. http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52690&page=1 http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75622&p=952653 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gluebomb Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Oh god I don't think I that laughed that hard in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddyfink Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Alright! Alright! Take it easy on the guy, he is making my cars look way better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 In this case those who have bought the spray bombs that are being passed off as works of art bear a little of the blame as well. In the case of the white Nova those pictures clearly show that there are issues with the paint; yet someone bid on it! The pictures show that there are issues with fit and finish; someone bid on it after seeing that too. If someone truly knew what Bill Jenkins Super Stock Nova/Chevy II really looked like they would not have bought a Pro-Street Nova, but they bid on it anyway. If the bidder knew anything about the engines allowed in Super Stockers they would know that even Bill Jenkins himself couldn't get a tunnel rammed small block to pass tech for an SS classed car, they chose to bid on it. Why? Even in my most sarcastic moments I couldn't come up with a smart Alec enough answer! If people quit buying stuff that clearly looks like a garage sale refugee those who try to pass off this stuff as if it were the absolute best of the bestest. Maybe, just maybe they would go back under the rock from whence they came. Back to the model, if people keep buying these creations then their builder gets he self notoriety that they are going for. In their mind they probably feel that since their models are selling for as much as they are that they are putting out a quality product. Probably not, when you build something you can normally point out even the most minute flaw which would go unnoticed by all but the most critical person. There are all sorts of ideas on quality... I'm not going there all the low hanging fruit is gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmvw guy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 This is disgusting? This is Encouraging to me, that my models might actually be worth something to someone besides me!!! I guess I'm not a professional because, I haven't sold any finished one's yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 He is a better builder then me because he is a pro and I am only average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nxr Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 wow 48 dollars? I should start selling my foiled promos and such maybe i can get like 100$! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58 Impala Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I've been building model cars for almost 50 yrs and consider myself to be pretty proficient at building them. If he's a professional builder, then I'm the next Gerald Wingrove. Edited January 22, 2014 by 58 Impala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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