1930fordpickup Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1973-ferrari-dino-barn-find You night want to sit down if you are a Ferrari lover. I was surprised how much rust this has, under 14,000 on the clock and it is just a parts car. http://barnfinds.com/rusty-stallion-1973-ferrari-dino-246gt/ Edited May 6, 2014 by 1930fordpickup
Erik Smith Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Saw that on Bring a Trailer - leaky garage and years of it... Edited May 6, 2014 by Erik Smith
1930fordpickup Posted May 6, 2014 Author Posted May 6, 2014 Tecnically not a Ferrari, but still cool find. Why is that not a Ferrari ?
mrm Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Because when this car came out it was Dino. And Dino was a supposed to be separate brand. The car never had Ferrari anywhere on it. It was badged as a Dino, the engine was cast as a Dino and the car was promoted as a Dino. Enzo was stubborn and refused to put his name on a V6. It was supposed to be "a poor man's Ferrari". However, today, these cars are considered as "part of the family" and many had Ferrari badges added to them.
jbwelda Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) I think most of that will probably rub out. edit to catch up...yeah I do remember the "Dino" thing but this one is obviously badged in several places as a Ferrari. All aftermarket? jb Edited May 6, 2014 by jbwelda
slusher Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Looks pretty bad but someone could use a parts car. Thanks for sharing...
mrm Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 I think most of that will probably rub out. edit to catch up...yeah I do remember the "Dino" thing but this one is obviously badged in several places as a Ferrari. All aftermarket? jb No Dino 206/246 ever came out with Ferrari badges. Even the initial four seater Dino 308s by Bertone came all badged as Dinos. Towards the end of their production, some had Ferrari badging, due to the outcry of the Ferrari dealers where the cars were sold. Believe it or not, they did not come out of the factory with side rear view mirrors either. Everything was dealer installed. This is why restoring one or building a model is real pain, since you can find reference photos that greatly defer in the spec of the car. I have a friend who restored a 308 (PI MAGNUM car) and we could nod believe the nightmare he had to go through. Got a door from a different car to replace his badly damaged one and there was more than an inch difference in the length of the two. These cars were true hand builds and a lot of times the details on them depended on which day of the week they were made and how much wine Luigi and Guido had the night before.
om617 Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Alfredino Ferrari,the only son of Enzo Ferrari,suggested his father to develop a V6 racing engine for Formula 2 in the early 60s. Although always in favour of V12,Enzo approved his beloved son's project and employed famed engineer Vittorio Jano to design this engine. The result was a very compact,1600cc,quad-cam V6 which eventually won several F2 championship titles. However,before this happened,the ill fated young Alfredino had already died in kidney disease. It took Enzo Ferrari several years to fully recover from heartbreak. For the memory of his son,he put the V6 into a mid engined sports car and badged it "Dino",which is the short write of his son's name.
Greg Myers Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Ferrari lore at it's best. This ain't no Ferrari either.
Scale-Master Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 I wouldn't call the breadvan a Bizzarrini either since it was built off a Ferrari 250 GT SWB (#2819), so I think it is still technically a Ferrari.
FordRodnKustom Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Geez what a mess. Kind of looks like it got partially submerged in salt water during that police chase then put away wet.
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) I have a friend who restored a 308 (PI MAGNUM car) and we could nod believe the nightmare he had to go through. Got a door from a different car to replace his badly damaged one and there was more than an inch difference in the length of the two. These cars were true hand builds and a lot of times the details on them depended on which day of the week they were made and how much wine Luigi and Guido had the night before. Though the build quality of many Ferraris was all over the board (I once had a 308-based car in the shop that had factory welds on the windshield frame structure that looked like they were done by drunk monkeys), a 1" variation in door length sounds a little extreme. My guess is that there had been crash-damage somewhere that was repaired by sub-human "experts". By far, the most awful things I've seen on any exotics were the result of "repairs". I DID have a Mangusta in the shop once that DID have a short door on the driver's side. Then I noticed the windshield pillars on it weren't parallel, so badly that the gasket area had been filled up with black silicone. It turned out that it had been hit HARD in the left-front wing, and never actually straightened structurally. When the morons put new parts on it, they had to cut and fit. Pathetic. That said, your remark about Luigi and Guido rings entirely true. Edited May 6, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy
Rob Hall Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Nice patina of rust. A little bondo and duct tape and it should be fine...
Harry P. Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Nice patina of rust. A little bondo and duct tape and it should be fine... Bondo and duct tape? Isn't that overkill? Belt and suspenders? Duct tape alone should do the trick. Better yet, use that aluminum duct tape and your repairs will never rust!
Rob Hall Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Bondo and duct tape? Isn't that overkill? Belt and suspenders? Duct tape alone should do the trick. Better yet, use that aluminum duct tape and your repairs will never rust! Put the duct tape on first to cover the holes then bondo over it for a smooth surface for the primer.. a buddy of mine used to do that with NE Ohio rusters when he was in college. Edited May 6, 2014 by Rob Hall
mikevillena Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 Actually, the V-6 "Dino" engine went on to greater fame than F2. It powered the shark nosed 156 to a world championship with Phil Hill in 1961.
mrm Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Actually, the V-6 "Dino" engine went on to greater fame than F2. It powered the shark nosed 156 to a world championship with Phil Hill in 1961. I would also like to add that Dino was not Enzo's only son. Pierro is not only alive and well, but also holds the highest number of shares in the company his Father started. Also Enzo had no problem with engines with less than 12 cilinders if racing required it. There were plenty of four cylinder motors in the Scuderia and they made some mean V6 turbos too. But he did not like the idea for a street car. He wasn't a fan of the rear engine layout for the street either. The story that Alfredino had anything to do with the development of the V6 has also been long debunked. Edited May 8, 2014 by mrm
om617 Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 But he did not like the idea for a street car. He wasn't a fan of the rear engine layout for the street either. The story that Alfredino had anything to do with the development of the V6 has also been long debunked I think you should send a note to RM Auctions and let them know they write debunked facts. I find it strange he created the Dino brand specifically for these smaller sports cars if he did not like the idea.
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