mnwildpunk Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 http://horsepowerkings.com/sources-ford-to-discontinue-v8-motors-in-mustang-f150-after-2017/
rel14 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Welcome to America, if are government cann't mess it up, just give them a minute. Wait a few more years when there all electric,,,
lordairgtar Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The muscle car is dead. The muscle car is not dead. Just got a heart transplant.
rmvw guy Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 How about a GT Electric in the future? What ever happened to the Electric Focus? I actually thought that was a good idea.
MeatMan Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I've heard all of this before in the '80's. Our auto industry will adapt to government regulations and give the customer what we want. We have six cylinder and four cylinder turbocharged engines putting out the horsepower that V-8s put out ten years ago. It's evolution guys, that's all.
chunkypeanutbutter Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The muscle car is not dead. Just got a heart transplant. Transplanting a heart with a baked potato
Atmobil Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 How about a GT Electric in the future? What ever happened to the Electric Focus? I actually thought that was a good idea. It's on sale here. In Norway, electric cars are favoured by the politicans and are therefore much cheaper to buy and own then anything else here. The Nissan Leaf is one of the top selling cars in the contry and we have loads of the Tesla model S around here, same goes for every other electric version of any other cars around such as the VW Golf, E-Up, Focus, BMW I3 and others. Of the 5347 Tesla model S sold in the first six months of 2014 in Europe, 3134 of them where sold here.
1972coronet Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I remember the following "scare" tactics from back in 1987 : 1.) Mustang going to a front wheel drive platform 2.) Front-wheel-drive F-Series Well , the proposed wrong-wheel-drive "Mustang" became the Probe , a Mazda venture yawn fest . The alleged wrong-wheel-drive F-Series ? Never materialised . The V8 survived the Automotive Dark Ages Part 1 ( 1974 - 1979 model years ) , and it will continue to thrive ! As far as the (colloquial) term "Muscle Car" : a term-of-endearment that was bourne-out of the "Supercar" nomenclature (e.g. , mid-sized sedan / coupe / hardtop with a big V8) . The Mustang is a "Pony Car" ( same goes for Camaro , Cougar , Challenger , Barracuda , Firebird ) ; compact cars with fierce V8's were / are "Junior Supercars" ( Nova , Dart , '64-'69 Barracuda , Demon , Duster , etc. , etc. ). You can have your EcoBoost tomfoolery and other stringent C.A.F.E. standards excrement ...
Petetrucker07 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The Ford muscle car is dead. Chevy and Dodge are still goin with V8.
Joe Handley Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The Ford muscle car is dead. Chevy and Dodge are still goin with V8. And doing so with pushrods at that!
Erik Smith Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The Ford muscle car is dead. Chevy and Dodge are still goin with V8. Maybe Chevy and Dodge should take some business lessons... And I thought the muscle car died in 1970. Really, if you can get the performance AND efficiency, why would you stick with solid axle technology? We're there people bemoaning the end of the flathead?
Petetrucker07 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Well, i guess when they can a V6 to have that timeless, harmonic, beautiful V8 roar, then i might change my mind. But until then, i will still stop, look and drool when i hear a Z06, a CTS-V, SRT-8, or any of the newer high performance cars on the road with an aftermarket muffler. I will do the same for the classics, Novas, Chevelles, Camaros, Cudas, Chargers, Challengers, Shelby GT Mustangs, Gran Tarinos, and so on. That odd sound of a 4 cylinder or V6 will not get my attention. I guess im old school. Yeah fuel efficiency is fine and dandy, but i guarantee i can make a carbureted 454 have more power, sound spectacular, for half the price of any 4 cylinder or V6. I think the art of reading spark plugs, changing power valves and annular boosters on a Holley are just about gone. That is a skill im proud to say ive learned, and intend on teaching my kids. But like what has been said, its evolution and that is certain to continue. But i know there are too many of us "Old School" guys that refuse to let the good things in automotive die. The V8 will make a return to Ford, someday. Just like the Camaro that died, then returned.
SfanGoch Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) It's on sale here. In Norway, electric cars are favoured by the politicans and are therefore much cheaper to buy and own then anything else here. The Nissan Leaf is one of the top selling cars in the contry and we have loads of the Tesla model S around here, same goes for every other electric version of any other cars around such as the VW Golf, E-Up, Focus, BMW I3 and others. Of the 5347 Tesla model S sold in the first six months of 2014 in Europe, 3134 of them where sold here. It's on sale here. In Norway, electric cars are favoured by the politicans and are therefore much cheaper to buy and own then anything else here. The Nissan Leaf is one of the top selling cars in the contry and we have loads of the Tesla model S around here, same goes for every other electric version of any other cars around such as the VW Golf, E-Up, Focus, BMW I3 and others. Of the 5347 Tesla model S sold in the first six months of 2014 in Europe, 3134 of them where sold here. Try finding a place to charge one in NYC. Only one location in Brooklyn. Not worth the trouble and expense. The EPA should be abolished. Immediately, if not sooner. Nothing worse than having your life regulated by diktat. Edited January 14, 2015 by SfanGoch
Chuck Most Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Even if it happens (and that's a big IF), who cares? Eventually there will come a day when internal combustion engines of all kinds are consigned to the dustbin of history. Today, nobody mourns the loss of the Stanley Steamer.
freakshow12 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I'm glad I have a couple of the hottest modern v8s Ford has ever made in my garage. I'm not too worried about it.
martinfan5 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Even if it happens (and that's a big IF), who cares? Eventually there will come a day when internal combustion engines of all kinds are consigned to the dustbin of history. Today, nobody mourns the loss of the Stanley Steamer. Apparently , lot of people do, I think they are contacted to ones.......oh, nevermind on that one But, lets look at some numbers shall we, copy and pasted from the article here http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-6-2-v8-ford-f-150-is-definitely-officially-dead-fo-1610108232 Let's talk output: The 6.2 V8 in the current Ford Raptor makes 411 horsepower and 434 lb-ft of torque. Yeah, the 3.5 makes less (365 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque) but it's on tap sooner. The EcoBoost makes peak horsepower at 5,000 RPM as opposed to the 6.2's 5,500... and the torque curve on the turbo blows the V8 out of the water: full power at just 2,500 RPM as opposed to the V8's relatively lazy 4,500 RPM.
dieseldawg142 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) ... Edited May 11, 2018 by dieseldawg142
Ridge Rider Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Sad, but we can turn on the stereo to sound like a V-8. I hope we aren't at the end of the new muscle car revolution. I would hate to see the junk of the 70's per govt regs come back. Does that have a Hemi?
slusher Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 They can get more power out of smaller engines but many love the thought, Feel, and sound of a v8.....
charlie8575 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Welcome to America, if are government cann't mess it up, just give them a minute. Wait a few more years when there all electric,,, Yeah, what he said. Part of the aesthetic of an automobile is its sound. And, frankly, I think this will cost Ford dearly. More manufacturers are moving to V8s, as they've found ways to make them get six-cylinder mileage, or very close, and still perform better. This is a sad day indeed. Charlie Larkin
freakshow12 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Just go spend some time on the f150 forums and you will soon see at what cost the Eco boost makes power. They don't live very long and don't get the milage they are supposed to. My last 2 f150s I went with the 5.0. It's better on fuel in all areas to all my Eco boost buddies and it's never been in the shop for work. That article is sort of a hype builder to raise awareness of the new Eco beast as they call it. It's marketing plain and simple! Word on the Ford street on svtp and team shelby is there is a v8 ecoboost in the wings so not to worry boys. while Ford has been clear the v8 will go away it won't be for a decade. As far as EPA guidelines etc, they are an across the board average and always have been. That means if x amount of super efficient vehicles are made that allows a few that are not. That equals some low production fun cars. It's not all doom and gloom
johnbuzzed Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Yeah, and the Mustang was once gonna be FWD, too- instead, Ford presented the Probe. And, musclecars were gonna disappear after the fuel crises in the '70s, too. I'm more than a bit skeptical about this, but that's just my humble opinion.
freakshow12 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 If you look at past articles from these guys you will also see they were way wrong on the 2015 mustang AND the gt350. Only time will tell
Harry P. Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I don't see what the big deal is. It's called progress. The new 2015 Mustang with the Eco-boost four makes more horsepower and more torque than my 2007 Mustang GT V8. There's nothing sacred about an engine having a certain number of cylinders. Over the years we have had cars with one, two, three, four, five, six, eight, ten, twelve, and sixteen cylinders. What's so special about eight? More important than how many cylinders an engine has is overall performance of that engine. And some of the highest performance cars today don't have any cylinders... they're electric. An eight-cylinder engine is only one of many ways to power a car.
aurfalien Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Well, from a kit car perspective, I'm going V8 for simple raw power, carbs and all. Nothing fancy. Besides new cars these days don't really do much for me. I've a daily commuter and then a weekend funster.
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