Danny Lectro Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 I will fully paint the inside of the body shell and the outside of the interior bucket, since there is a strong possibility they might be seen if the model is looked at from beneath. The top of the chassis plate, I might not worry about unless there is something about the structure of the car that might conceivably allow it to be seen.
tubbs Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 paint it all. i usually open up doors and trunks and for sure something will be seen unpainted. i will not clear everything, but it usually all get color. no bare plastic for me.
10thumbs Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 It is what it is, painting unseen areas,or any other areas that may or may not be seen, taking no chance they may be seen unpainted. And , no we don't "tear the models apart" the models. I don't quite follow you. If you can't see an area that's not painted, why would you "judge it" then? How could this be the tie breaker on models that are otherwise, in your judges' eyes equal? If a model is left unpainted under the hood, then what's the sense in even entering a contest? May or may not be seen? Hmmm, I'm happy to read that you guys don't "tear the models apart" the models. Huh?
Mike_G Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 I only paint what can be seen, it's not like it's gonna rust
Foxer Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 I paint everything I can with spray cans, so it's hard not to paint everything! I never really thought about this but a body just doesn't look finished till it's ALL painted.
Muncie Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) paint it all - if I don't, the spot that I didn't paint will be something visible for sure... (should that be posted in you must be a model builder if ...) I used to leave the sides of the interior tub and the inside of the body bare - sure enough could see down thru the window into the gap between the body and interior to see unpainted/ plastic and overspray - that's a difficult spot to touch up later. Edited February 6, 2015 by Muncie
Snake45 Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I'm building an old MPC '69 Camaro that's molded in black. I'm not even gonna paint the chassis or interior (except the carpet, which will get flat black).
bobthehobbyguy Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Paint what is seen. Use test fitting to see what is exposed.
lordairgtar Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Just the stuff that is seen. I like to put the date of the build and my name under the interior bucket or elsewhere. I can imagine thirty years from now when someone buys one of my old builds at a swap meet, they wonder who I was.
Danno Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I'm with the crowd that dry-fits or test-fits the assemblies to determine what surfaces will be visible later, then I paint anything and everything that will be visible from any viewing angle (including underneath). I believe that's necessary for a miniature replication to be complete. You'd be amazed, sometimes, what is left undone ~ yet, visible ~ in some so-called 'contest' models. The pretty magazine models aren't always so pretty in the views that aren't published.
johnbuzzed Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I'm with the crowd that dry-fits or test-fits the assemblies to determine what surfaces will be visible later, then I paint anything and everything that will be visible from any viewing angle (including underneath). I believe that's necessary for a miniature replication to be complete. You'd be amazed, sometimes, what is left undone ~ yet, visible ~ in some so-called 'contest' models. The pretty magazine models aren't always so pretty in the views that aren't published. Yeah, and when you've seen some of them up close, in person... . Too many lose sight of the basics, especially when it comes to contests.
Guest Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I hate scraping paint off to glue, so I only a paint what is necessary. I use mainly Tamiya and I rey to keep my usage down, due to the cost.
mrknowetall Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 If it can be seen, I paint it. I'm airbrushing a lot more lately, and airbrushing wastes less paint (or so it seems).
Greg Myers Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I don't quite follow you. If you can't see an area that's not painted, why would you "judge it" then? How could this be the tie breaker on models that are otherwise, in your judges' eyes equal? If a model is left unpainted under the hood, then what's the sense in even entering a contest? May or may not be seen? Hmmm, I'm happy to read that you guys don't "tear the models apart" the models. Huh? Read this thread http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=98609
John Goschke Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Paint what is seen. Use test fitting to see what is exposed. Precisely and concisely!
Petetrucker07 Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I tend to paint everything just in case there's an area that can be seen that I may have missed in mock up.
johnbuzzed Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I don't quite follow you. If you can't see an area that's not painted, why would you "judge it" then? How could this be the tie breaker on models that are otherwise, in your judges' eyes equal? If a model is left unpainted under the hood, then what's the sense in even entering a contest? May or may not be seen? Hmmm, I'm happy to read that you guys don't "tear the models apart" the models. Huh? If you have never judged a contest, you would be amazed at what some people do enter. There are times when the lesser of two evils must be chosen for first place, when it should be down to the better of the good stuff.
southpier Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 anyone (else) worry how about light transmission through a light body color showing the understructure ?
Danno Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 If you have never judged a contest, you would be amazed at what some people do enter. There are times when the lesser of two evils must be chosen for first place, when it should be down to the better of the good stuff. I've seen several examples, over the years, of nicely painted, trimmed, foiled, and detailed models with carefully detailed engines and chassis, fuel and brake lines, nicely finished wheels and tires . . . . . . . and bare, unpainted white plastic screeching out at the judges on the unfinished bottoms of interior tubs where the chassis and firewall opened around the bellhousing and transmission! Picture it. Didn't bother to paint the underside of the interior tub . . . yet, it showed!!!!!!!!! Another all-too-common fatal error is the unfinished hood underside. Beautiful model, well detailed, exquisite exterior paint and finely detailed engine compartment. But, the hood underside displays ejector pin marks, rough cuts and deep sanding scratches, patch-work primer and color coat overspray with irregular patches shaped like masking tape . . .
Kris Morgan Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I will usually lay a light coat on top of the chassis, bottom of the interior tub, etc. Inside of the body gets painted. On a side note, I am restoring a 69 Wildcat. The previous builder panted EVERY surface with red brush paint. Inside the engine block and trans, behind the dash. Even the inside surfaces where the front seat goes together.
slusher Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I paint everything seen or not. all the outside of the interior tub and if not a tub the side panels and back of the dash interior color. I flip chassis and all suspension parts and paint them black. Never a worry on something being seen. I use Krylon flat black and comes out like a semi gloss so the cost is lower then the model paints..
highway Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I tend to fall into both areas, and it all depends on what I am painting with and how I'm painting it. If it is an assembly that is going to be predominately one color, I will spray paint it, and everything, seen or not, gets painted like the top two left and bottom center frames in the opening post pic. I'm not going to waste time and masking tape to mask off the inner gas tank just to save a tiny amount of paint. That also goes for engines that I spray like this Hemi for an 09 Challenger: All of it got a coat of Hemi Orange (yes I know that is probably not prototypical, but it's a Hemi after all) and then I painted the transmission by hand and over the orange that had been sprayed on it. The same was true for the chassis, it was sprayed with gray primer (again probably not prototypical, but it's what I want) and then everything was highlighted and detailed. Even the inside of the body gets sprayed, even in areas like what the interior will hid and the trunk lid. This pic even shows that the inner wheel wells and the area under the seat got the entire paint treatment even though it won't be seen. And yes, I know the edge of the hood needs touched up! On the other hand, if I brush paint it, as I did on these seats from the same build, you can see under the seats didn't get painted. So, I guess I do lean more to the "paint it regardless" side, but also don't paint every little thing that won't be seen. I'd rather have more coverage that won't be seen than too little and have something not painted stick out like a sore thumb!
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