GMP440 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Has anyone here on the board read recently about Round 2 possibly wanting to release the 71 Dodge Demon in the future. Looking to find more info on this. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pack rat Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 This is old news. A '71 Demon was announced (3 or so years ago?) then unforeseen issues were encountered and it fizzled. Contrary to popular belief it was never intended to be a re-issue of the MPC kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 45 minutes ago, pack rat said: This is old news. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I know it's old news. But, I do wish someone would do a '71 Demon 340. Revell? Round 2? Moebuis? I don't care who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, unclescott58 said: I know it's old news. But, I do wish someone would do a '71 Demon 340. Revell? Round 2? Moebuis? I don't care who. Someone did! MPC in 1971. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr mopar Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I don't see this one coming out anytime soon .......................? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard_2_Handle_454 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Stop getting hopes up, I'd kill for the kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBradKeselowski Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 If it's not out now it never will be.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 If they did a reissue of the new tool version, it would be nice if they fixed that upper window line. That's always bugged me about that kit. Not a hard fix, but to me quite noticeable. That's wishful thinking though among other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Someone did! MPC in 1971. Steve The trouble is I missed it the first time. I'm not sure my mother would let me have a model of a car called a Demon at the time. Since she's gone and I have my own house, I can now add one to my collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapSat 6 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) The original MPC 1971 Demon was a rare one- it was a mid-year release based on the same tool they used for the 1971 Duster. Once they did their run of 71 Demons, they took the same tool and revised it to produce the '72 Duster annual. That same tool eventually became the '76 Dart Sport, so as far as we know, the original '71 Demon from MPC can't be brought back. As far as I can tell, the same tool was used for the following kits: 1971 Duster Annual 1971 Demon mid year Annual 1972 Duster Annual 1972 California Flash Pro Stock 1973 Duster Annual 1973 Mopar Missile Pro Stock 1974 Duster Annual 1975 Duster Annual 1975 Dart Sport Annual 1976 Dart Sport Annual In any case, there were small errors made when they created the '71 Demon back then- the front wheel openings were never changed from the Duster shape. Real life Dusters & Demons had different shapes here because the Demon simply used the '70-'71 Dodge Dart Swinger front fenders, which had wheel openings that were styled to match the rear wheel openings on the Swinger body. The Duster was a surprise hit for Plymouth, and started out as a Plymouth exclusive- once 1970 Duster sales became evident, Dodge dealers cried out for a Duster clone, so they simply used the Dart Swinger front clip with no changes to create the Demon for 1971. As a result, the Demon front wheel openings did not match the rear wheel openings of the "Duster/Demon" body in 1:1. Also, I think I read here in another thread that there was something wrong with how they did the Demon hood on the '71 mid-year annual kit. ERTL did a 1/18 '71 Duster diecast which they later revised into a '71 Demon (about 20 years ago). To my eyes, they did a terrible job revising it, the Duster looked OK (I have one), but the Demon they did had a very awkward flat shape to the front end. You would think that with relatively modern tooling technology they could get this right, but just take a look at one of those 1/18 Demon diecasts and it's evident that it is just wrong. I hope that whomever takes a shot at doing a '71 Demon will do it right. If it looks anything like the 1/18 diecast, then count me out. I had hope that perhaps Revell would have tackled both the 1970 Swinger 340 and the '71 Demon with all new tools, but unfortunately they might be out of play now... Edited November 21, 2018 by CapSat 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordf-100 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Could you get fairly close swapping the front end from the Hemi Hunter onto a modern tool Duster? The taillights would be a bit of a pain but is anything else that different? How close are the interiors? I have not seen this tried, what else would need done? Not sure if I would have the skill set for that! Unfortunatly I had a built up Demon that I bought for $2 and sold it for just a little bit more on ebay when they started announcing that it was going to be reissued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, fordf-100 said: Could you get fairly close swapping the front end from the Hemi Hunter onto a modern tool Duster? The taillights would be a bit of a pain but is anything else that different? How close are the interiors? I have not seen this tried, what else would need done? Not sure if I would have the skill set for that! Unfortunatly I had a built up Demon that I bought for $2 and sold it for just a little bit more on ebay when they started announcing that it was going to be reissued. The Hemi Hunter/LA Dart has the wheel openings too far back on the fenders. On top of that, the styling crease just above the wheel opening is on the "soft" side, and on top of that there's no front bumper. The original Demon kit has issues: besides the incorrect front wheel openings, the hood is extremely flat. MPC tooled only the upper half/outer surface of the hood, and used the existing Duster tooling for the underside. The Duster hood is a lot flatter than the Dart/Demon hood, so the end result isn't the greatest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordf-100 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I never realized that the front wheels are too far back on the Hemi Hunter. I forgot about the missing front bumper! I guess it could be done but it would be a ton of work! To much for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320wayne Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I believe that Harts Parts resins makes a conversion kit for the AMT Duster kit to make it a 71 Demon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom99 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I guess I'm lucky, I still have an original unbuilt MPC 1971 Demon in my stash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I'm lucky I guess. I have a decent builder ( have had it for years ) I've no real interest in a resin version ( sorry not a resin fan ) I've toyed with the idea to sell it off every now and then , but then I come to my senses and put it back in the pile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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