Jiml0001 Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 On the wire front, here is where I found the small scale wire I use 10 meters for $5.00. He also has some wire at $19.95 for 100 meters. Outstanding value I think https://www.ebay.com/itm/152192202513? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Thibodeau Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/14/2021 at 11:47 PM, absmiami said: So YOU’RE The Chairman …. I was wondering who the Chairman was … Hi Andrew! I control the voting shares, so... LOL. CT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Jiml0001 said: On the wire front, here is where I found the small scale wire I use 10 meters for $5.00. He also has some wire at $19.95 for 100 meters. Outstanding value I think https://www.ebay.com/itm/152192202513? Thanks … resin rivets and bolts fr Russia and .011 wire fr China … insert joke here … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy D Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Hi Jim, What a great creation !!! Love the use of 3D printing for this project. Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brudda Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 7/31/2021 at 8:45 PM, CabDriver said: I would strongly recommend either putting prints up for sale, or putting the files on Shapeways - I bet you’d sell a bunch. GREAT work so far! Love it! Yes , I agree, I’m in for one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainford Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Excellent work here. This is a very cool project, and I'm impressed with your efforts. Thanks also for the link to the .011" wire source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiml0001 Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Well, I made a big mistake. I wanted to use a flathead in my tanker and all was going well until I realized I had miscalculated the correct size to print and all the engine work I had so painstakingly done was too small (anyone need a pile of flathead stuff at about 1/32)? Oh well, back to the drawing board and i next realized that when printed to correct size, it was just too big to fit without hacking big holes in the body for all the protuberances. Once again, back to the drawing board. How about a Caterham Duratec? I have a nice drawing of that so i started there (carefully measured). Here are the blocks for tis one: I printed it with the alternator attached since the mounting brackets were just too small to attach afterwards. The alternator is so detailed you can see the windings on the inside rotor through the vent holes. On nice thing about 3D printing is if you are going to print one, you might as well print a dozen. In resin printing the time is the same for one or many. Here i printed two. Of course you can end up with dozens of parts you cant use: So the Duratec fits much better in the frame and I can finally start moving forward again I also found a nice drawing of an old style flat steering wheel so I printed that: Edited September 2, 2021 by Jiml0001 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris chabre Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) I wonder how close your printed flathead is to a v860. I love land speed stuff, so Ill be watching!!! looks awesome so far Edited September 11, 2021 by chris chabre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Thanks Jim1 for the eBay wire link - mine arrived last week …. You think our Chinese wire source could have come up with a better internet storefront name ?? Anyway - the stuff measured to .011 and is actually very useful for 25th - 24th - and 32nd scale …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo64 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Any updates to this build? It's been awhile. I've always wanted to do a Belly Tanker, but they no longer offer the resin ones, or if you do find one it is really expensive. I've been watching for a 3D version, but haven't come across any yet. If you made your files available to purchase, that would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustyMojave Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 In a lifetime involved in motorsports, this is the 1st race car I ever sat in. At 2 years old. Note that these photos were taken by my father of his best friend Tom Beatty with his belly tank. My dad, Tom and Fat Eddie have passed away. As such I claim copyright to these pictures. If I find them elsewhere on the internet, I will know they have been stolen. Tom's belly tank is one of the most famous. Built by Tom with help from Barney Navarro. The tank body is a P38 drop tank. The frame is made of 3" round tube rails. It was the 1st car to break 180mph at El Mirage Dry Lake when it was running a wrecking yard Ford flathead V8. Then it was the 1st car to break 200mph, when it was running a wrecking yard Olds Rocket 303ci pushrod V8. IIRC, the front axle is Model T. The rear axle is swingaxle (like a VW Bug or early Porsche) built using Ford parts. In these pics taken in the late 50s at El Mirage, the wheel covers were Moon discs. The car earlier rolled with wheel covers made from wringer washing machine lids. The car now resides in the Henry Ford Museum. The 40 Ford Sedan Delivery push truck holds a record at Bonneville, set while pushing the Arfons' Green Monster with an Allison Engine that wouldn't fire. Inside the sedan delivery were Tom and Fat Eddy ( big guy seen in these pics), Tom's rollaway tool chest, spare wheels and tires for the sedan delivery, the race car and the trailer, a couple of spare engines for the race car, ice chest, food, jack and jack stands, pieces to put together an a-frame type engine hoist, and various spare parts etc. GMC was trying to beat that record with their heavily engineered Syclone supercharged pickup in the early 90s. They failed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 ^^^ Great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustyMojave Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Wow...Thank you. Note that this car, with the front axle not dropped, the belly of the body is not flattened but clears the ground by a few inches as visible in the side view. When these pictures were taken, I lived with my family in the San Fernando Valley, about 70 miles from El Mirage Dry Lake, on the other side of a range of 10,000 foot high Mountains, and Tom Beatty and his family lived there too. Now I can see the hills above El Mirage from my house in the Mojave Desert, only 10 miles from where the belly tank was parked in these pictures. Edited March 20, 2022 by DustyMojave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pg265 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Hi, Awesome!! I’d love to have one! Pascal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McLaren Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Great project, and building and designing everything for it puts you firmly in the shoes of the original builder and increases your knowledge of these cars and gives you an appreciation of the effort involved. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiml0001 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 Well, it has been awhile. The belly tanker got the best of me, too many parts, scaling problems, print issues. If I know one thing about modeling, when a project stops being fun then get away from it and come back later. So now after learning more about my printer and getting proper scaling figured out, I am back on the Tanker. Come to find out, a Ford flathead does fit perfectly. I built up three examples. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiml0001 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) The frame I designed probably is nothing like any other belly tanker. It was just my imagination wanting to have a frame that looked like an old airplane frame. I like how the finished frame looks. I installed the engine and transmission and everything fit just right. The red tank on the front bulkhead is a fire extinguisher and nozzles. All the control cables. gas and brake lines are threaded through the frame as you can see above. Now I think I will move to the front and do the cockpit, gas tank etc. If anyone would ever like to attempt this project or could use some of the parts to make their own design, send me an email and I will send you all the print files. Edited May 12, 2023 by Jiml0001 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 great great great I love comebacks ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straightliner59 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Very cool project! That engine looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straightliner59 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 On 2/9/2022 at 9:32 PM, DustyMojave said: In a lifetime involved in motorsports, this is the 1st race car I ever sat in. At 2 years old. Note that these photos were taken by my father of his best friend Tom Beatty with his belly tank. My dad, Tom and Fat Eddie have passed away. As such I claim copyright to these pictures. If I find them elsewhere on the internet, I will know they have been stolen. Tom's belly tank is one of the most famous. Built by Tom with help from Barney Navarro. The tank body is a P38 drop tank. The frame is made of 3" round tube rails. It was the 1st car to break 180mph at El Mirage Dry Lake when it was running a wrecking yard Ford flathead V8. Then it was the 1st car to break 200mph, when it was running a wrecking yard Olds Rocket 303ci pushrod V8. IIRC, the front axle is Model T. The rear axle is swingaxle (like a VW Bug or early Porsche) built using Ford parts. In these pics taken in the late 50s at El Mirage, the wheel covers were Moon discs. The car earlier rolled with wheel covers made from wringer washing machine lids. The car now resides in the Henry Ford Museum. The 40 Ford Sedan Delivery push truck holds a record at Bonneville, set while pushing the Arfons' Green Monster with an Allison Engine that wouldn't fire. Inside the sedan delivery were Tom and Fat Eddy ( big guy seen in these pics), Tom's rollaway tool chest, spare wheels and tires for the sedan delivery, the race car and the trailer, a couple of spare engines for the race car, ice chest, food, jack and jack stands, pieces to put together an a-frame type engine hoist, and various spare parts etc. GMC was trying to beat that record with their heavily engineered Syclone supercharged pickup in the early 90s. They failed. Very interesting stuff, Richard. I'm sure I recognize some of these names from Tex Smith's Hot Rod History. Vintage dry lakes racing is a fertile ground for modeling project ideas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McD Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Wonderful work! I admire your perseverance. Really glad you got back to this project and I will be following it. I am curious if you have recommendations regarding 3D printers and software based on your experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatMan Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I didn't see the original post so this is a nice update. I printed a body with intent on making a chassis. I may rethink that now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiml0001 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 About printers. As far as I can see there is no real difference in the performance and detail accuracy between any of the brands. My first was a Phrozon Mini and my new one is an Elegoo Pro. Both are in the $200 - $250 range The Elegoo does have a larger capacity but not by much. There is one thing different though that might be significant. My model bench is in my bedroom and when a print job might take a couple of hours I like to run them at night. My first printer, The Phrozon, was very, very quiet. There is clicking and whirring as the head moves up and down, but not a huge deal. My new printer,, by Elegoo, has a cooling fan that runs constantly, any time the power is on. For that reason, I wish I had replaced my Phrozon with another like it. I have no complaints about the Phrozon. It gave out after a huge number of print jobs so for $199 (at the time I bought mine) I consider it a bargain. There is one thing I would pass on. Originally the resin used in these gave off a powerful odor and required ventilation. Also, the prints needed to be cleaned in isopropyl alcohol after they came off the printer. You needed to buy that stuff by the gallon. A real negative part to printing. Now they have water washable resin that cleans up with water and there is virtually no odor. I print at my bench in the bedroom without issue. Just don't rinse your prints in the sink. The residue you rinse off can harden in the drain pipe. Once a print comes off and is rinsed, it needs to be cured using UV light. I went to Amazon and bought a UV light designed for curing fingernail polish. It cost me $12.00 and works great. Just some of my thoughts about getting started. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Thanx for that .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiml0001 Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 For those unfamiliar with 3D printing each print builds layer by layer from bottom to top. The plate that the print adheres to moves up and down layer by layer as each layer is exposed to the light source. So the print actually builds in the printer upside down one of the most important setups for printing has to do with the position of each part as it prints. It’s important not to have edges parallel to the build plate. That is why I tilt each part so they come out clean right out of the printer the resin is fairly soft. It needs to be cured in a UV light source. Then the parts can be trimmed and glued together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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