NOBLNG Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, oldnslow said: And still here in one piece after 60ish years….must have had competent drivers.? 1
NOBLNG Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, oldnslow said: Excellent! That’s like the guy with the lunch box screwed to his car roof.?
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, oldnslow said: Funny and true, but minus 10 points for incorrect apostrophe usage on "airbag's". How hard is it, really, to remember you don't use a damm apostrophe before an "s" signifying plural (more than one)? Edited December 11, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy TYPO 1
stitchdup Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Funny and true, but minus 10 points for incorrect apostrophe usage on "airbag's". How hard is it, really, to remember you don't use a damm apostrophe before an "s" signifying plural (more than one)? but it could be correct, apostrophe s also means belongs to, as in possesed by so they could be saying it doesn't own airbags.
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, stitchdup said: but it could be correct, apostrophe s also means belongs to, as in possesed by so they could be saying it doesn't own airbags. Wrong. "Airbag's" means owned BY an airbag. Edited December 11, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy TYPO 1
Rob Hall Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Wrong. "Airbag's" means owned BY an airbag. And if owned by multiple airbags, it would be "airbags' ". Not "airbag's' " . Edited December 11, 2022 by Rob Hall 2
NOBLNG Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) The apostrophe contraction only takes the place of the i in “is”. Try saying these with “is” in place of the “ ‘s”. If it doesn’t sound correct, it’s not. Airbags’ WOULD mean owned by an airbag. No airbag’s foolproof. (correct) No airbag’s or seatbelts. (Incorrect) This is the old airbags’ house. (Correct…I think) Edited December 11, 2022 by NOBLNG
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Posted December 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: And if owned by multiple airbags, it would be "airbags' ". Not "airbag's' " . Correct.
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, NOBLNG said: The apostrophe contraction only takes the place of the i in “is”. Try saying these with “is” in place of the “ ‘s”. If it doesn’t sound correct, it’s not. Airbags’ WOULD mean owned by an airbag. No airbag’s foolproof. (correct) No airbag’s or seatbelts. (Incorrect) This is the old airbags’ house. (Correct…I think) There's no contraction here (like there's) so don't muddy the issue. The issue here is about plurals and apostrophes and ownership. Many people seem to use apostrophes randomly, sometimes to indicate plural (more than one) which is WRONG. But the rules are simple. Plural is signified usually by simply adding an "s" to the root word. NO APOSTROPHY (And let's not go down the rabbit hole of words that have oddball plurals, like hippopotami, OK?) More than one airbag is airbags. An apostrophe signifies possession if it's BETWEEN the root word and the "s" if the root is singular: airbag's (one airbag owns something). An apostrophe signifies possession if it's AFTER the root word ending in "s" if it's plural (more than one): airbags' (multiple airbags own something). "This is the old airbag's house" means ONE airbag owns the house. "This is the old airbags' house" means MULTIPLE airbags are found there. There will be a test Tuesday. Failure is not an option. Edited December 11, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy 1
Snake45 Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 And while we're on the subject, more or less, one of my alltime pet peeves is using an apostrophe in the possessive "its." "It's" means "it is." "Its" means "belonging to it." And why is there no apostrophe in the possessive its? I can teach you this in about ten seconds and you'll own it forever. Ready? Here are the possessive pronouns: My/mine Your/yours Our/ours His Her/hers Their/theirs Its Do you see it? There are no apostrophes in ANY of them. So, for uniformity, there is no apostrophe in "its." Now you own it forever. Here endeth the lesson. Go and sin no more. 1
Oldcarfan27 Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said: "This is the old airbags' house" means MULTIPLE airbags are found there. There will be a test Tuesday. But if airbag is a personal name, wouldn't it be Airbag's? Just askin'.
Oldcarfan27 Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) And while we're (we are) on the subject, "their" (possessive), there (location) and they're (they are)... Are not interchangeable pronouns!! Edited December 11, 2022 by Oldcarfan27 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Posted December 11, 2022 Whoo wuda thunk yoo cud lern ta rite gooder on a modul kar cite?
thatz4u Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Whoo wuda thunk yoo cud lern ta rite gooder on a modul kar cite? Eye Deed!!!
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Oldcarfan27 said: But if airbag is a personal name, wouldn't it be Airbag's? Just askin'. That one's kinda tricky, but basically the same if you think about it. If it was the old house of one person named Airbag (Mr. Airbag), you'd be correct. But if it was the old house of the family of multiple people named Airbag (the Airbags), it would be the old Airbags' house. Isn't pedantry fun? Edited December 11, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy CLARITY
Monty Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 This has been irritating me for some time, so I'm glad to see someone is finally taking it on. Here's what's embarrassing: Over the years we've had any number of foreign members (mostly European from what I could tell) and they never had any issues using apostrophes correctly, despite the fact that English may not have been their first language, while some American posters mystified me by using them in an almost random way. I've seen sentences with two plural nouns but only one had the (incorrect) apostrophe. What rationale were they using to make that decision? For those of us who learned to use apostrophes the correct way, so much of what we see posted looks as silly as someone typing a'u't'o'm'o'b'i'l'e's. Really don't get it. 1
stitchdup Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Wrong. "Airbag's" means owned BY an airbag. it was a grammar joke, i didn't mean to kick off such a debate, lol
bobthehobbyguy Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) This recent discussion on punctuation definitely fits for a laugh category. Why else would we come to this model building site? Best laugh in a while. Doubt anyone will top it! Edited December 11, 2022 by bobthehobbyguy 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Posted December 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, bobthehobbyguy said: ...Best laugh in a while. Doubt anyone will top it! Just read or listen to what passes for "journalism" today. It'd be hysterically funny if it wasn't so pathetic. 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Posted December 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, stitchdup said: it was a grammar joke... I must be stupid; I don't get the joke.
DPNM Posted December 11, 2022 Posted December 11, 2022 Grammatical errors are one of my top pet peeves. They are so common now I have just decided to "shine them on". If you notice there is an error in the Noah meme and the one with the pipe wrench welded to the bumper. There are enough meme's just in this thread to attest to the fact that people are just plain stupid (not you Bill). I doubt that is a lack of caring. I believe that correct sentence structure has not been taught for years. I bought a sewing machine from a lady 79 years young today. We were talking about how they no longer teach cursive writing in school. My question was, how will these students legally sign their name? 2
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