unclescott58 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Art, I love Pontiac 8 lug wheels. As long as they look right I'll be happy. But, that was the big news? I'm a little disappointed. Three pieces make me wonder how hard they will be to put together. But, knowing Moebius I'm sure they'll be okay. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Metzner Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Actually the 8 lugs are 4 parts the brake drum and wheel which will be molded in standard gray, the hub cap and chrome trim ring will be plated. I'll try to post pics - just don't have the built-up model right now and it's too late to fish the parts out of the big box of test shot parts tonight.. Edited October 3, 2014 by Dave Metzner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDean58 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 WOW! So cool! This could be your first "Parts Pack!." Put a set of 5 in a box and sell them separately, you could probably sell about a million of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Actually the 8 lugs are 4 parts the brake drum and wheel which will be molded in standard gray, the hub cap and chrome trim ring will be plated. I'll try to post pics - just don't have the built-up model right now and it's too late to fish the parts out of the big box of test shot parts tonight.. Thank for info Dave. I do like the idea of doing the wheels in four pieces. It will make painting them to make them correctly easier. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Goschke Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Actually the 8 lugs are 4 parts the brake drum and wheel which will be molded in standard gray, the hub cap and chrome trim ring will be plated. I'll try to post pics - just don't have the built-up model right now and it's too late to fish the parts out of the big box of test shot parts tonight.. Outstanding! Love the idea of the four-piece wheel - more than I hoped for for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 More awesomer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 OK, NOW I can reveal the "Mystery" feature of the '61 Ventura kit! Of all the models of Pontiacs having the 8-Lug wheels, NOBODY has ever done one correctly. It was something that got discussed at great lengths, and Moebius has done it: Correct 3-piece 8-lugs! Brake drum, SEPARATE rim with lug detailing, AND a separate plated hubcap! YESS! Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 sounded better than it looks....too bad,it was a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 sounded better than it looks....too bad,it was a great idea. I think it looks quite good. And it is the test shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Well, to get the kool design trick in, they had to compromise the spacing of the fins, which isn't even, as it is on the 1:1: But that's alright - I'm all good, long as they please, please, purty PLEASE get that body closer than the Ford pickups, anyway... Edited October 3, 2014 by Chuck Kourouklis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Let's compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 All other Moebius photos will be in the MCM article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Thanks, Gerry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chernecki Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I think it looks great, can't wait. All the body lines appear to be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Not quite perfect at the C-pillar, but nearly there. Even if this were left as is, it would still be way easier to fix than the '62 Bel Air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Look at the difference between Gerry's pic and Mike's....note the relationship between the backlite and the rear wheelwells, doesn't match to my eye. The rear end seems too long,reminds me of the Trumpeter 60 Pontiac. I sure hope I'm wrong..... Edited October 3, 2014 by mike 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Not quite perfect at the C-pillar, but nearly there. Even if this were left as is, it would still be way easier to fix than the '62 Bel Air. Yeah, still missing the little "kick up", but you're right.............much better than AMT's. If you're really good, you can add that tiny triangle at the base of the C pillars if Moebius doesn't correct it. I'll have to pass final judgment on the overall shape of the body when I have it my hot 'ol hands! From what I can see though......isn't the back end a bit long for a Ventura/Catalina?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Were the Bonnevilles longer in the rear quarters, Bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Were the Bonnevilles longer in the rear quarters, Bill? Yes they were. Bonnevilles had longer rear decks along with longer wheelbases for most of the 1960's. This was GM's way of allowing Pontiac to differentiate their B-Body based top of the line models (the Bonneville and StarChief....the later replaced by the Executive later in the decade) vs. the Catalina/Ventura, without graduating to the C-body that Olds and Buick used for their top of line models and Cadillac used for all their models (except the Limos). Having said that, the lens Gerry used may be adding to the elongating the effect....recommend we wait and see the real thing before we worry about this too much. I also immediately noticed the C-pillar touchdown error but I also agree that it should be easy to fix - for us initially, and hopefully for Moebius later. TIM Edited October 3, 2014 by tim boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Were the Bonnevilles longer in the rear quarters, Bill? Yup they were! As well as the overall wheelbase. I'm not sure by how much, but visually it is noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Thanks, Tim & Bill, and I agree this time about seeing it in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) But IF it's indeed "wrong" isn't this the time to point it out,*before* it's put into production? Edited October 3, 2014 by mike 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 No disagreement from me there. But we're far further along on the development curve this time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) OK. One more pic of the Ventura. Oh and it is slated for 3Q2015 Edited October 3, 2014 by Exotics_Builder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/uploads/post-628-0-76364400-1412372699.jpg Hmmm..................I hate to be a killjoy, but that back end IS too long to my sight. More along the lines of a Bonneville than a Ventura. If Moebius is reading this------PLEASE do fix this! 3Q2015 is quite a ways off, and this car is too important to us "lunatic fringers" for this error to go unresolved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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